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Garage outlet questions

hllon4whls

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These questions are more about mechanics of doing things and ideas.

1) I have 5 outlets in the garage, the garage door opener, the outside plug, the outside light, the laundry room light and the garage lighting on one circuit. I want to split those up. Because the walls are sealed and insulated, I cant figure out which order of outlets they use to make all of those hops. Any thoughts on the best way to split some of these circuits up without tearing open the walls?
I'm wondering if I should just give up by running conduit down the walls with surface mount boxes where I want them.

2) the outside outlet box is broken. Its a fiber/plastic box brown in color from the 70's. Its in brick and recessed into the mortar. One of the ears to mount the outlet to the box is broken. Suggestions as to how I can fix it? I am sure I could smash it up and remove the box, but no idea how to get a replacement in there.

As far as the electrics go, the panel fits square D breakers. I'll need to add some 1/2 height breakers as the panel is full. Every 120 ckt is 20 amp with #12 feeding the outlets and then from one outlet, a feed to the lights with a #14. There are of course no GFCI due to the age of the structure.

I would like to go 3 outlets per circuit. 2 ckts would be fine and 3 would be sweet.

Its a low hip roof (running outside wall ckts stinks) and all of the lighting power source comes into an outside wall (3way). All walls are insulated, bricked on the outside and paneling on the inside.

- Frank
 
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Charles (in GA)

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How big is the Circuit Breaker panel? If it is a 40 slot panel and is full, you cannot legally use the 1/2 height breakers, as the panel is listed for a certain max number of circuits, which you are up to at this point.

Some panels are 30 space but listed for 40 circuits, allowing you ten half width breakers.

Charles
 
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hllon4whls

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Ok. I made some progress, but need some help.

I took a section of the wall paneling down where the last outlet and lights were powered from. I ran 2 12/2/g one for the lights and one for the outlets to my panel. I wired 4 outlets to the 12/2 for the outlets with the first in series being a gfci.

The gfci will do nothing. No light, no click and no workie. Is the GFCI bad? I cant think of anything else I could do differently to make things work. Its wired straight to the panel. Its the last one I had out of a multi pack. I used them in the kitchen and in the bath because the house had zero when I bought it.

I have a NICE DOM, but no GFCI tester. Thoughts?
 
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hllon4whls

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Fingered it out. Bad GFCI outlet. That's sucky because I had everything jammed into the box like I wanted it. HD has the 3 pack of 15 amp GFCI for $30. I spent $30 on two of the 20 amp. :(
 
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