Garage plan opinions please

[Sgt. Grumpy]

Please feel free to give input for my garage/shop plans, before I bite the bullet!
Hope to make it look like an older gas station, with two overhead doors in front with a gabled overhang for my two gas pumps etc...
36’ deep by 56’ wide. 12’ high walls with scissor trusses for height for a lift. Two 12’ wide by 10’ high overhead doors. The office would have 2 3/0 double hung windows and a 3/0 entry door. Office will be 20’ wide by 14’ deep. The two bay shop area will be 30’ wide by 36’ deep, deep enough for my tool chests and benches along the back wall with room between the cars and benches for some other pieces of equipment. Behind the office would be what I call cold storage, a 20’ deep by 22’ wide garage with 2 9x10 overhead doors, to store my two finished cars. Along the outside back wall will be a 52’ by 16’ overhang, where I can store my enclosed trailer and boat off season. Hope my drawing shows up well enough to figure my rambling description! I know, bigger would be better, but this is an upgrade from my old 24x28’ garage I survived with for 37 years, and money is a factor!
Thanks in advance! https://share.icloud.com/photos/03ziKBArRv5MlasIdE2oe2YlA#Sherrills_Ford

**sorry, trouble posting a pic, but there’s a link to my drawing.

 

[ducksface]

Money as a factor:
Figure $100psf

Someone will be here to tell you they built a lean-to for $15psf.
You're not building a lean-to.

Finished is finished.
Uninsulated, I did most of the work myself posts will not help you.

 

[ace10]

If you like the layout, you should give thought to roof design and truss layout. And are you wanting to cantilever the front and rear overhangs?

 

[larry_g]

One of the biggest regrets I have in my building is having the end wall to close to the door opening. If I read your print correctly you have 6" from the door to the wall on both doors. If your like most people they tend to accumulate stuff along the walls and this then becomes a problem with opening doors on vehicles and other things. I'd ask you to reconsider making the office a bit smaller to gain room along the wall and the work area. Also maybe consider one wide door instead of two twelve footers.

No use in having a 12' door if the lane inside is not 12'+ wide inside. I and a few others here on GJ suggest a minimum of three feet door edge to side wall.

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no neat sig line

 

[pmiranda]

IMO wide doors give you the flexibility to either store stuff along the wall, or get a vehicle close to the wall. If you narrow the doors, then you have no choice. Of course at some point it does start to cost more and just be silly, but I have 18" between doors and to the walls, and still have room for random junk in the corners. But my prime use is storing vehicles, not stuff.

 

[Sgt. Grumpy]

Ace, it’s a 4” pitch with 18” overhangs all around.
Larry & Pmiranda, the front two overhead doors will have 2’ on either side with 4’ inbetween them, though we might even those three measurements out, I’m with you storing stuff along the side walls if necessary. And the actual layout for the office and the car storage behind will actually get laid out after the building is closed in, that way we can walk it out and see what we actually need. Liking the two separate door look better than a single wide door, pros and cons to both. Appreciate the feedback. A second set of eyes or brains always help!

 

[Bolson32]

There's also framing issues without having a full 4' sheet of sheathing at the corners. If you go below 3' I believe you need to beef up the shear strength, likely with some type of metal strapping.

I shifted the doors on my build to avoid that specific issue and get full sheets on all 8 sides of every corner.

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[astroracer]

Keep in mind wall thickness when doing your figuring. Your "stick" drawing is okay but, once you add the actual wall thickness into your drawing, you will be losing at least a foot on all of your "inside" dimensions. The office walls will also reduce the 30' shop area by at least 6" so now your width for doors is only 29'.

 

[sberry]

30 wide is to narrow, 36 so much better for 2 cars side by side.

 

[ace10]

Ace, it’s a 4” pitch with 18” overhangs all around.

I was asking about the front and rear covered areas for the pumps and trailer parking. Are you going to use posts?

Which direction is the ridge? What's the roof design... gable, hip,...

With the left bay being so close to the wall and only being a 4/12 pitch, you might have trouble getting much usable height with scissor trusses in that bay.

Where I'm going with this is that you need to think in 3D. Personally I hate posts. They will forever be in your way. So that's my question about cantilevering the overhands (not the eaves)

 

[Cougar]

30 wide is to narrow, 36 so much better for 2 cars side by side.

X2. Could shrink the office or add on to the width.

I was asking about the front and rear covered areas for the pumps and trailer parking. Are you going to use posts?

Which direction is the ridge? What's the roof design... gable, hip,...

With the left bay being so close to the wall and only being a 4/12 pitch, you might have trouble getting much usable height with scissor trusses in that bay.

Where I'm going with this is that you need to think in 3D. Personally I hate posts. They will forever be in your way. So that's my question about cantilevering the overhands (not the eaves)

Probably be two posts on the pump island, that will look nice.

 

[Sgt. Grumpy]

Sorry Ace, I misunderstood what you were asking. The ridge of the roof would go from left to right as your looking at the front of the building, with gable ends. With the 4 inch pitch, the scissor trusses should give me 13 1/2 foot ceiling height in the middle of the building. No hip roof so there won’t be any height issue along the side wall. The Bendpack I’m looking at measures 145” so I’ll be plenty good. The “portico” in front of the office will be a reverse gable with two 8x8 posts 16’ out with an 18” overhang All around. The rear covered area will be a shed roof off the rear wall with 8x8 posts 16’ out, with the additional 18” overhang.
Here is a link to the general idea what I’m looking for: https://pin.it/1cEBJ62