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Looks like the beginnings of a handy, if somewhat shallow, cabinet. Some stout hinges, some deep doors with pegboard/shelves/racks and you've got decent extra storage. Years ago, I 'modified' a plywood, recessed, triple medicine cabinet that I tore out in a bathroom renovation and it made a very handy shop cabinet hung over my workbench. I used the same approach with the deep doors/pegboard and it became a great storage for my fastener supply and hooks for paintbrushes, short handsaws, files, etc., etc., etc.. An added bonus for your situation would be that the doors provide even more separation between the warm shop and the frigid winter weather.

Or, you could build your own version of the Studley Tool Chest:

http://www.google.com/search?q=stud...VOYzQigLg_4CwCg&ved=0CB0QsAQ&biw=1920&bih=947

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I popped the old trim off to start with today. Seeing what was underneath, I knew I would have to put some trim back up.
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I made a trip to town and grabbed a couple of 1x4s, ripped them down, and nailed them up.
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I was trying to do this with what I had laying around, so I had to buy 2 1x4s and a set magnetic latches for a total of less then $12.
 

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Then came the doors. I had half a sheet of 7/16" OSB and that became the doors.
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The door trim was 1x4s ripped down. I glued them and used some brads to attach them.
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Doors ups, I already had some little hinges.
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Doors open to show the pegboard which will hold blades for the table saw and bandsaw.
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Standing back to make sure it looks ok. Yep, still needs the trim down the center. I was considering 1 piece to cover the gap but it didn't look right.
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Incase you're wondering, that is my kindling box for the wood burner on the other side. It won't be that full this Spring.

Next up, keeping the doors closed. One of the few things I had to buy, $2 in magnetic latches. You can see them at the top. I screwed a borad behind them to keep them from sliding backwards. I have a few other around the garage that this was happening too.
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I added the trim to the center of the doors, latches holding it shut and holes drilled for the knobs. I need to find some longer screws as the ones that came with the knobs are too short. I think it will be an easy fix.
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One coat of Kilz primer going on. It will dry tonight and get a coat of paint tomorrow.
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looks good. Now you need to do a "Jack Olsen" optimization thing. Put more pegboard inside the doors and some more on the front.

...it never ends...
 

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Looking good! Glad to see you went for the doors; they just seem to add that little bit extra to keep the shop looking clean and uncluttered.

Now, if you just 'happen' to have a couple right-sized scraps of white board laying about, those doors will double as a dry-erase surface for the 'head-scratching project planning phase'. lol
 
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looks good. Now you need to do a "Jack Olsen" optimization thing. Put more pegboard inside the doors and some more on the front.

...it never ends...

The "cabinet" isn't deep enough for that. If my intentions from the beginning would have been storage, I could have got more use out of it. :sad:
 
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Nice job!


Thank you.

Looking good! Glad to see you went for the doors; they just seem to add that little bit extra to keep the shop looking clean and uncluttered.

Now, if you just 'happen' to have a couple right-sized scraps of white board laying about, those doors will double as a dry-erase surface for the 'head-scratching project planning phase'. lol

No white board on this, the table saw is stored in front of it and then the miter saw is in front of the table saw. No easy access to it. This gives it all the more reason to use it for blade storage alone. ;)
 

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You're not burning PT lumber are you? I hear that's not good for ya.

Nice work!
 

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Eric,
Sorry i missed alot of your posts aong the way. Your restoration transformation is amazing. You should be proud. Keep at it.
 
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You're not burning PT lumber are you? I hear that's not good for ya.

Nice work!


Thanks, I don't think there's any in there, if there is, it's only a piece or two.


Eric,
Sorry i missed alot of your posts aong the way. Your restoration transformation is amazing. You should be proud. Keep at it.

Thank you sir.
 
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Looks like the beginnings of a handy, if somewhat shallow, cabinet.

I want to thank you and the others that make suggestions. I don't think I could be happier with the way it turned out. well, maybe just a bit deeper.


Paint finished with the doors closed, you can tell that I still need to paint over the Kilz primer.

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I picked up some pegboard hooks while at Menard's the other day. I tried to make the most out of the room that I had availabe. I kept opening and closing the door to look at it, I am that tickled with it. :willy_nil

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Now to the outside. I don't have much to show but I did make a start. Between the rain and the wind, it's been almost impossible to get up here and start working on this area. I bought a new 2x10 plank. It's 12' long compared to the older 10' one I have been using. Everything is marked and I know how it all lays out and has to go up, that was the biggest part on doing this section.

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As usual, the rain got me today. If I would have had an earlier start, I probably could have had the siding done. The granddaughter and helping the neighbors (they are moving and having an auction) took some priority today.

I set the ladders back up and did a few more pieces.

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This is what I came up with to work on the area above the roof. I'm using both of my 24' extention ladders and a set of ladder jacks. A new 2x12x12' plank bridge the gap. Since the ladders are at such an angle, I was worried about them sliding out and my *** landing on the ground. To prevent that, I used a couple of small ratchet straps around the posts to one rung of the ladder.

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On the west end, I had no post to tie off with a strap so I improvised.

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"I want to thank you and the others that make suggestions."

You're very welcome! I figure that's why we're here, and to applaud the efforts of those guys that take the time and effort to document their work.

Smart move using the straps (and car wheel) to add a margin of safety!

What's left to do on the exterior this fall before the snow and cold drive you inside?
 
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"I want to thank you and the others that make suggestions."

You're very welcome! I figure that's why we're here, and to applaud the efforts of those guys that take the time and effort to document their work.

Smart move using the straps (and car wheel) to add a margin of safety!

What's left to do on the exterior this fall before the snow and cold drive you inside?

:beer:

I want to have the front finished, siding, 1 row a cut shingles at the top after the siding is done and then the fascia. I'm going to save the east wall for next Spring. I need to figure out what I'm doing with the electric service.

I'm debating just a new service with wire/conduit and mast or bring a line from the house. If I do it right, I can probably work it out so both are there. Disconnect the service but if the next person wants a separate service, it's just a matter of adding the meter back into the base.

I still need to move a few things out to the garage shed before winter, including all the shovels & rake stuff. I fixed some welds on the yard trailer (cutting wood trailer) and painting them right now. It'll get stored out there as well.
 
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Love the straps keeping the ladders from sliding out. Great idea!

Thank you.

Yesterday was a wash, my elderly neighbors that I have been mowiing their yard had an auction. They have sold their house and are leaving to leave in town as his health isn't great.

I was hoping to the siding done today as it was supposed to be nice, it was nice but other things came up. I did put up some siding and found an issue. As I put the last piece of siding up across the first row, I knew something wasn't right. I took a measurement and was not happy. I found something I never noticed before even when I put the overhanging roof on.

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Notice how the gap between the siding and the J-channel grows. It's not a case of unlevel siding, it's a matter of the roof line being off.

Here is what the east end looks like.
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Standing back, looking at the west side, I'm not sure how well this will turn out.
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I considered when I wrap the top, to taper the coil stock to cover the gap. I can't lower the roof as it's standing seam on top. I knew that I would have to put some siding up there so I went ahead and finished it. Sad to say, I didn't get any pics, I will tomorrow and then I need some honest advice of what you guys think of what it looks like.
 

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With just two runs of siding, it is very difficult to make up for the ~2" of difference from end to end. If you have J-Channel on the bottom, you could pull all the siding down and eat up maybe 1/2"-3/4" by raising it up in the channel from left to right. Granted, lots of work so late in the season, especially in OH, but may be worth considering.

Otherwise, maybe a different siding material entirely in that space and simply paint it the color to match the rest of the siding as this could hide the height change.
 

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Eric,
I don't know if this would work but I think I would move the siding up to match the cap. That would move the gap to the bottom of the knee wall. Using coil stock the same color as the siding, I would then cover the gap and the galvanized flashing down to the shingles, following the flashing line. The taper would still be there but it would be across a wide area with no lines to highlight it. I bet it would be fun to ask people if they can see the problem. Or just look down when you walk up to the front.
 
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With just two runs of siding, it is very difficult to make up for the ~2" of difference from end to end. If you have J-Channel on the bottom, you could pull all the siding down and eat up maybe 1/2"-3/4" by raising it up in the channel from left to right. Granted, lots of work so late in the season, especially in OH, but may be worth considering.

Otherwise, maybe a different siding material entirely in that space and simply paint it the color to match the rest of the siding as this could hide the height change.

I can't really try to pull it down to hide it as it matches up with the lines of the other side around the corner.

Changing the siding material might be an idea, maybe something vertical (like soffit material) or some vinyl shake siding.
 

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Wow what a makeover, the house looks great also. What is the block on the ground to the right of the chimney?
I am in the process of siding my house/garage, the manual said not to install vinal siding over foil faced insulation, said nothing about foil faced OSB?
I installed 2" pink foam, new windows and doors, had to fur out all the openings 2", what pain to rip down all those 2x's. What difference in the utility bills!:beer:
 
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Wow what a makeover, the house looks great also. What is the block on the ground to the right of the chimney?
I am in the process of siding my house/garage, the manual said not to install vinal siding over foil faced insulation, said nothing about foil faced OSB?
I installed 2" pink foam, new windows and doors, had to fur out all the openings 2", what pain to rip down all those 2x's. What difference in the utility bills!:beer:

Dave, that block is sitting over an spouting drain. It runs under the garage and used to have the floor drain tied into it. I put the block over it just to keep **** from falling into into.

Sounds llike your place is quite snug and comfortable now.
 

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Looking at your pics in post #288, I got another of my wild ideas on how to frivolously spend other people's money. lol

If I were you, I would leave the siding alone, and just hide the taper! I would build a 'box valence' that would mount to the top of the front wall and extend the entire length of the building. The front piece of the overhanging valence would extend down the face of the upper wall enough to completely hide the taper even when you are standing in front of the building looking up. Attached to the inside of the valence's front face piece would/could be a string of those LED cable lights/salvaged fluorescents/can lights/what-have-you. These would be 'accent down lighting' for the front wall and overhang roof. You could get all artsy-fartsy and 'pierce' the front face with Victorian (?) designs or some other architectural gingerbread to match the look of your house facade. It would be an expense and one hell of a lot of work for you to build/install it, but the big payoff would be the showy night display to make your shop even more distinctive than it already is.


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Eric,
I don't know if this would work but I think I would move the siding up to match the cap. That would move the gap to the bottom of the knee wall. Using coil stock the same color as the siding, I would then cover the gap and the galvanized flashing down to the shingles, following the flashing line. The taper would still be there but it would be across a wide area with no lines to highlight it. I bet it would be fun to ask people if they can see the problem. Or just look down when you walk up to the front.

The lines of the siding currently match the west wall of the garage, as the east side will get done next year. . . out of time/money/siding. Now that I have it finished, it doesn't look hateful, just not that great. I know it's there and that's the absolute worst part.

Looking at your pics in post #288, I got another of my wild ideas on how to frivolously spend other people's money. lol

If I were you, I would leave the siding alone, and just hide the taper! I would build a 'box valence' that would mount to the top of the front wall and extend the entire length of the building. The front piece of the overhanging valence would extend down the face of the upper wall enough to completely hide the taper even when you are standing in front of the building looking up. Attached to the inside of the valence's front face piece would/could be a string of those LED cable lights/salvaged fluorescents/can lights/what-have-you. These would be 'accent down lighting' for the front wall and overhang roof. You could get all artsy-fartsy and 'pierce' the front face with Victorian (?) designs or some other architectural gingerbread to match the look of your house facade. It would be an expense and one hell of a lot of work for you to build/install it, but the big payoff would be the showy night display to make your shop even more distinctive than it already is.


(My advice is absolutely, positively, guaranteed to be worth exactly what you paid for it and not a penny more!)

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Sounds good, but way to much time and money for me. I'm almost to the point that I want this thing done. The weather this year is driving me nuts.
 
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These are going to be the greatest pictures. It's still too early to take them them for this time of the year and the Sun is behind the garage making it worse. I"ll get better pics later today.

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Looking for the corner, what most will see driving by, it's nearly impossible to catch it.
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Right now, I think the best option is doing what IONH suggested and get some vertical siding. I know Menard's like to sell stuff by the individual piece so if it was instock, I wouldn't have to buy an entire box.
 

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Hmmmm. Now that I look at this picture, I see the lines match more than I thought. Maybe this side isn't the problem, maybe it's the east side that is too low ?

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Some non-vented sofit could do the job mounted vertically across. Any chance you can get some to match the color of your siding?
 
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Some non-vented sofit could do the job mounted vertically across. Any chance you can get some to match the color of your siding?

I can get some that is damn close enough for me. I still have a few pieces left from the under side of the overhang I put on.

I may put it off till Spring. I considered doing that out front (vertical soffit) underneath the bay window area. When I go to Menard's, I'm going to look at some siding and see what they have normally in stock in my color.
 
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If you noticed in the above posted pictures, you can see the flashing above the shingles and below the siding. After 4 1/2 hours of mulching leaves and mowing yards, I did get that taken care of today.

At first I tried to just use roof cement and glue them down. That worked fine for a few minutes since it was "hot" today. After that, they would slide down and off the roof. I didn't want to use a big roof nail (relative to covering the head) so I looked around and found something. I'm not sure if it'll work but I'm giving it a try, a underlayment nail. It's ringed so it won't pull out and a head that was easy to cover with a small dab of roof cement. Once the Sun comes back out and it's supposed to hit the 70's next week, they should be stuck just fine.

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I was standing in traffic taking that picture.
 

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I would say so
Wow, I forgot about taking that picture, let alone posting it. I honestly am sitting here dumbfounded.

Quoting those two pictures has really hit home, hpw, I can't thank you enough. I think I'm at a loss for words.
 
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