Garage remodel

[bwatson]

Hello guys! The wife was nice enough to choose a house with a 3 car garage when we were looking for a house and that's what has brought me here.

The outside looks very nice, and the inside looked decent in most spots, as well. The problem was the wiring is pretty rigged up, and the drywall was falling down. Her father is an electrician, so I will have an expert helping me with that part of it, and you guys have already given me plenty of ideas for the rest of it the way I want! I Geek-out on computer controlled anything, and home automation falls under that category. Lucky for me, I have a garage to use as a clean slate for my Raspberry Pi/Arduino home automation trial and errors. Basically what I'm saying is that I want to be able to control the thermostat, lights, stereo, and garage doors with my phone from anywhere. I'm new to this stuff but I've been reading like crazy in order to pick up as much as I can, as fast as I can.

Anyways,
Before I get to do any of that, I need to tear down the already falling down sheetrock and put up new O.S.B., put new shelving in, as well as put a heating and A/C unit in.

Here's the before pictures:






Now for the inside:





















So far, I have pulled all of the Sheetrock down, as well as all of the insulation and plywood runways out of the attic. I also just finished pulling every nail left by the Sheetrock today. Sorry, no pictures of that yet. All of the wiring is still there, but my father in law will be assisting me with getting rid of that, as well as putting new in. I still have to remove the wood paneling from the 3rd bay's walls.
My question as of now is- should I put plastic between the insulation and the O.S.B.? I want it to be as energy efficient as possible.

Thanks guys,
Branden.

 

[CNGsaves]

Nice big garage for "clean slate" once you get old stuff cleared out. You'll want to PLAN all your rough electrical and lighting before you get in hurry to put in insulation and wall covering. Also plan airline system whether you'll go with in-wall or surface mount.

GJer's can give you best advice with LOCATION . . Update GJ Profile.

What is lose wire hanging on the electrical mast on roof ??

 

[marty_p]

I know it has already been a lot of work, but you'll be so proud of YOUR new place when you're done. I can already envision your new space with RD or another floating flooring option to conceal the slab.

Enjoy the ride, and keep us posted!

 

[Kevkx125]

Looks like a cool project to work with. Good luck and have fun.

 

[captain14]

Welcome to GJ. Looks like the third bay was added later? Is it well constructed? Good luck and don't rush things.

 

[Bib Overalls]

Agree with the others, take it one step at a time.

From what I see I think your ceiling should be "strapped" with 1"x4" boards before you put up the replacement drywall. 16" on center if you use 1/2" drywall and 24" on center if you use 5/8" drywall. Use drywall adhesive on the ceiling for sure.

I am using 7/16" OSB on the walls of my shop and I am very pleased with the results that I am getting. You can use it on your ceiling if you want and my advice about strapping the joists applies.

When painting OSB I give it two coats of oil based Kilz followed by two two coats of latex. Gives me a nice result.

 

[bwatson]

Nice big garage for "clean slate" once you get old stuff cleared out. You'll want to PLAN all your rough electrical and lighting before you get in hurry to put in insulation and wall covering. Also plan airline system whether you'll go with in-wall or surface mount.

GJer's can give you best advice with LOCATION . . Update GJ Profile.

What is lose wire hanging on the electrical mast on roof ??

I've got a pretty good idea of how I want my lighting and plug-in's to be already. I just hope the father in law feels the same way/ he has a better idea that I can agree with. Lol.

Good call on thinking about the airlines! I actually thought about this today before I checked back here and saw this! That small garden shed out back of the shop has a slab under it, and it also extends sideways a little from it, giving me plenty of room to put the compressor outside and pipe it in! Only problem with this is.... Practicality. I grew up very fortunate to have a father that is a mechanic by trade, so he built a 40'x50' shop to do side work/enjoy our own hobbies in. So learning from his mistakes/what I would rather have if it were mine leaves me with all these ideas in my head about how I want things, but then I realize this is a small garage that will probably be used mostly for parking/tinkering/social gatherings (Parties. There will be many many parties in here, With my friends and I all being in our 20's, it's just what seems to happen every weekend. And having a place that's NOT in the house to be roudy in is fantastic!) rather than fabricating/building toys. If I want to do that I will probably just use his shop. Plus if we sell the place, I can't expect to get my money back out of this if I go all out and make it all I want it to be. The next owner might just want a place to store all their junk. All of this will be useless if that happens. What I'm getting at is, I have to tone back my WANTS to practical "needs" lol. All of that being said, I am not sure of placement of air compressor yet, but I do know the airlines will be ran in the ceiling/walls to keep it looking clean!

As far as location, I'm in Kansas. That's about as detailed about my location as I want to get. Crazy world out there, and I just like to be careful.

Thank you very much for the insight!
Branden

 

[bwatson]

Agree with the others, take it one step at a time.

From what I see I think your ceiling should be "strapped" with 1"x4" boards before you put up the replacement drywall. 16" on center if you use 1/2" drywall and 24" on center if you use 5/8" drywall. Use drywall adhesive on the ceiling for sure.

I am using 7/16" OSB on the walls of my shop and I am very pleased with the results that I am getting. You can use it on your ceiling if you want and my advice about strapping the joists applies.

When painting OSB I give it two coats of oil based Kilz followed by two two coats of latex. Gives me a nice result.

I'm planning on using O.S.B. From the ground up, including the celing. Thus making things easier to hang, more durable, and don't have to worry about mudding and taping anything.

That being said, are you saying it would still be favorable to "strap" the celing? This is just to keep it from Fallon down like the drywall did, yes?

Wow. 2 coats of kilz AND 2 coats of paint?! That seems like overkill to me. Not saying you're wrong, just seems unneeded for a garage environment. Mine will definitely be painted white though! I think I want some kind of color to break it up though. Maybe a stripe all the way around the place about 4' up? I'm thinking red? Any suggestions on that?

Also, should I put plastic sheeting between the insulation and the O.S.B.? I am conflicted, by both my personal thoughts, as well as what others tell me.
Some say it will make the insulation mold, others say do it everywhere! I put on this would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks fellas,
Branden

 

[thunderbird61]

Also, should I put plastic sheeting between the insulation and the O.S.B.? I am conflicted, by both my personal thoughts, as well as what others tell me.
Some say it will make the insulation mold, others say do it everywhere! I put on this would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks fellas,
Branden

I used plastic everywhere, but my garage will be heated all year. If yours will be cold most of the time, I think I would not use it.

 

[bwatson]

I used plastic everywhere, but my garage will be heated all year. If yours will be cold most of the time, I think I would not use it.

Thanks for the response!

I will keep the garage above freezing if I can make it insulated well enough, I wouldn't mind keeping it 60°F at during the winter, and 75°F in the summer. But not sure how that will fair with my electric/gas bill.

I would imagine the plastic would help tremendously, but I think it will make stuff mold?

Thanks,
Branden

 

[thunderbird61]

Thanks for the response!

I will keep the garage above freezing if I can make it insulated well enough, I wouldn't mind keeping it 60°F at during the winter, and 75°F in the summer. But not sure how that will fair with my electric/gas bill.

I would imagine the plastic would help tremendously, but I think it will make stuff mold?

Thanks,
Branden

It will not mold if you keep a stable temperature, it is the up and downs in temperature, 'warm/cold/warm/cold' that creates moisture, wich in turn leads to mold. So if you are keeping the space at a consistent temperature it would be ok.

 

[bwatson]

It will not mold if you keep a stable temperature, it is the up and downs in temperature, 'warm/cold/warm/cold' that creates moisture, wich in turn leads to mold. So if you are keeping the space at a consistent temperature it would be ok.

Awesome. Very good to know!
I know you said you put it "everywhere", but just to clarify, did you put it on the celing as well as the walls? Thanks for the advice so far!

Here is where I'm at right now:









Wires hanging, insulation sagging, and needing A/C for the summer heat! At least I have a decent working stereo!

Now that my plastic sheeting questions are almost all answered, I'm wondering about electrical plug-in heights. Right now they are 30" high to the center. I don't mind that height, but all the plug-ins in dad's shop are about 5' up, and there was never a time I needed them lower. Just wondering all of your opinions on this subject? I know that by the workbench its a no-brainer to have them above the bench, but what about te side walls?
On that same subject, I want to be able to spray the floors down with a hose or pressure washer in order to clean them a little better than a broom can do. So keep that in mind if you are partial to low plug-in's.

Now on to lights! For the Open area I am planning on using 4' florescent ballasts. My work bench will have shelving above it, and I would love to have LED lights under them, shining onto the bench. Any objections to this? I can't see a problem with it, but maybe it makes it too bright or looks cheesy?

Back to spraying the floors down: would it be wise to put a strip of stainless Steel all the way around the shop where the floors meet the wall and go up 8" in order to keep the walls nice and dry?

I know it may seem I'm asking a lot of silly questions, but I like to validate my thoughts about how things should be, and what better way to do that than to ask those who have been there and done that?

Thanks!
Branden

 

[thunderbird61]

Awesome. Very good to know!
I know you said you put it "everywhere", but just to clarify, did you put it on the celing as well as the walls? Thanks for the advice so far!


Thanks!
Branden

yes, I put plastic anywhere I put insulation that faces a cold side, so if your attic is going to be cold, I would do plastic there too.

 

[bwatson]

Thanks thunderbird.

Got a few things done over the past week.

Wiring is all ran, awaiting lights and plug-ins. And the lights and plug-ins are waiting on the plywood to be installed. Dad and I got two walls done a few nights ago! I'll continue to plug away whenever I can. I'm ready to put shelves up, build a work bench and have a garage!





I bought these two tools because we always have to borrow either one whenever we needed them. Which used to be MAYBE once a year. (We don't work with wood) but beings I now have my own garage and know my better half would like to do wood projects, I figured I needed some of my own.


I bought cordless because I already have about every other 20v tool Dewalt makes, and I have never had a problem with any of them. I LOVE THEM! These are no exception! Saw is pretty light weight, and cuts like butter. The jigsaw is no different! I am beyond pleased with them. (In case anyone is on the fence about going cordless)

 

[bwatson]

I got the last full wall done in the main bays today.





I got my speaker wire ordered to run through the rafters, it will be here by the weekend so I can get my celing finished hopefully!

 

[HSpencer]

bwatson

Great Space!! The potential is outstanding. I like the added room and it will be of big value as you finish the garage. I am also a huge fan of the Dewalt cordless tools. I just bought the cordless circular saw and it is great. The Dewalt battery powered nailer is also a fine tool that I have.

Your space is coming along nicely and your lucky to have so much to work with!!

Best Regards
Herb

 

[bolensboneyard]

word of advice. Fix the cracks and seal the floor. I did not seal mine and now it is full of heavy equipment that will never get moved in order to seal it. They fill up faster than you think

 

[bwatson]

word of advice. Fix the cracks and seal the floor. I did not seal mine and now it is full of heavy equipment that will never get moved in order to seal it. They fill up faster than you think

They don't let any water in, and are in the middle of the floor, so I'm not worried about it yet. Plus, I won't have any heavy equipment over them if they do start to become a problem. The most I'll have to move is my couch. I appreciate the advice though!

Thanks HSpencer! It is coming together more and more each day.


On to the progress! My weekend was busier than I thought I would be, so I didn't get everything done I wanted to get done. Such is life.

I did get all the walls done though! Just have the celing left to do.

I didn't get a finished picture of the last bay, but this was halfway for it.

The garage door opener for the third bay should be here today, but probably Wont get around to putting it in until tomorrow or Wednesday.

Slowly coming along!

 

[bwatson]

Got the celing in the two main bays done today. Now just have to put the celing up in the 3rd bay and trim it out!