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Garage Security "When a monitored system isn't enough"

Hephaestus29

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A couple weeks ago there were several break-ins near here, & all the talk on the forum got me thinking I need to start a security thread. There may already be one but I can't remember seeing it.

About 7 years ago some turd broke into my garage & tried to break into the house, I came home early that night so I think I surprised them & just got here before they had a chance to kick in the door on the house.

The funny thing about it was that I couldn't find anything they got away with except a red case that once held a drill or something, but I had it full of "stick air nails" because the box that the nails come in are so flimsy & I didn't have many left anyway but it was full & heavy so they probably thought they really had something. I would have like to seen their faces when they opened the case LOL.

So I took 3 days off to beef up the security in the garage.

I have one window & made bars out of angle & attached them to the wall with 24 Lag Bolts and they're all sunk deep in wood ! I think you'd have to knock the whole wall down to get in that way.

I have one entry door & I barred the door with 2x6's & other scrap I had laying around. I bought 1/4 inch L brackets & bent them one more time to make a U & dropped the wood down into them. These brackets are mounted with lag bolts also. If you look close you can see there is not a gap between the door & the wood, & it's barred all the way across the frame of the door & mounted to the framework of the wall. If they try to kick this door in they might break their ankle.

The only way in is via a remote door opener.

Your probably not going to believe it but I actually locked both my remotes in the truck & left the keys in the truck one time so I couldn't get in the house & didn't have a remote to open the door with.
So how did I get in ? well thats an ancient chinese secret.

Regardless of whether or not your system is monitored, if they can get in they can be gone before the cops get there so the point is to keep them out !
 

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RVDan

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Your probably not going to believe it but I actually locked both my remotes in the truck & left the keys in the truck one time so I couldn't get in the house & didn't have a remote to open the door with.
So how did I get in ? well thats an ancient chinese secret.

You had to break into the truck, easy ask any local crackhead. Could also have broken into the house which is far less secure than the garage to get the spare truck keys. A garage door on a remote opener isn't terribly secure, YouTube will show you how to defeat it.

Your door and window are pretty secure, it would be a whole bunch easier to punch through the siding and sheeting. Vinyl siding and OSB over 16" spaced studs? You can kick through that
 

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What are you going to do in a event of fire when you have 5 seconds to get out? Security is a funny subject that I don't think theres any perfect solution. You have some good idea I might have to use a few.
 

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I live out the boonies, and it would take the police at least 45 min to an hour to get out here. I'm a firm believer in installing video surveillance to record what's going on. Bottom line, like as someone has already stated. If they want to get in, a portable saw or sawzaw and a couple of minutes and they have access. For insurance purposes you have to have locks, but anything above and beyond that should be invested in cameras.
Just my thoughts.

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I have all the security system I need...
I have a Rot. German Sheppard mix but around here they aren't very scared of dogs. They broke into my neighbors house who had a security system, just a few minutes after he left for work & his dog "Airedale" was in the house. The cops got to the house before he got back after being notified by the alarm co. but they were gone before the cops got there. In & out in under 6-8 min is what he told me.
 

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What are you going to do in a event of fire when you have 5 seconds to get out?...
I was thinking the same thing. I want bars on my windows, on the inside, but my requirement is that they can be removed in the event of an emergency. That's my conundrum.

For what it's worth, we are using the SimplySafe alarm system and it works well. I have motion sensors in my shop and "garden shed" (a very big well pump house) that are over 50' from the receiver and they work 100% of the time. Naturally, I have the other sensors in and around the house. I would recommend the system, even if you decide not to go monitored.

Darkk, I like your system. Though not as fancy, my personal carry .40 Glock does make big holes in squishy things. The bad guy, if even caught, won't spend more than a night in "they system" and then be back out again. Even if they were to do jail time it's on our expense. In the grand scheme of things, dead is the cheapest alternative for society on repeat offenders.

Whoa!...what the...?...how did I get up on this soapbox? :pimpflash
 

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Guys.....it's a common question and problem....

We all hate thieves.....truth is, if they want in bad enough...they will get in....one of the problems with baracaded doors like that....they thear up your doorway kicking it in....

I personally think dogs are the best and 1st item to have....

Next....loud alarm....95% of bad guys will run when they hear an alarm....

If your out in the boonies.....video.....you may not catch the guy...but in rural areas, the cops/sheriff's know who the bad guys are....give them a video of them in the act, and they go scoop them up post haste...
 

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Two dogs and a loaded 12ga works well for me. Then again, I live in the middle of nowhere. The only police reports you ever see in the newspaper is a meth bust or a domestic dispute once a month. Living in the country, everyone has a gun. You see very little break-ins because of that.

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Wifi security camera, only way to go... anyone enters my garage - I get an email with pics within 10 seconds, and a live feed link ;) helps me keep the wife away from my tools as a side benefit ;)
 

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Garage door on an opener can be defeated in about ten seconds. And every crackhead knows how. Watch youtube. Then do something to prevent it. I bolted plates to the side of my carriage to stop them hooking the pull. But it is still operable if there was an emergency of some sort.
 

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Garage door on an opener can be defeated in about ten seconds. And every crackhead knows how. Watch youtube. Then do something to prevent it. I bolted plates to the side of my carriage to stop them hooking the pull. But it is still operable if there was an emergency of some sort.
Here's an actual link to show how easy it is in action. Not being a crackhead I had no idea. I guess this is one time where college didn't pay off :lol:
 

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People see Jerry Lea throw this Boat Bumber ten feet in the air and they change there mind about coming on our property,
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Put a ***** dog in heat inside your fence and old Jerry Lea wouldn't give two shits about you or your property anymore.......:lol:
 

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In the last 2 years my dog has alerted me to people outside breaking into cars (not mine), people rummaging through trash cans and nearly mauled a guy that I confronted coming over my rear fence. I'm a big believer in dogs as well.

Alarms are good as well but I think good neighbors are almost as good. I'm lucky enough to live in a neighborhood where someone is home all the time. We all watch out for each other and have a neighborhood call/email list for notification.

Dog, alarm, locks, neighbors and cameras all make it more difficult and less appealing to criminals but you should consider insurance, tool marking and an inventory list in case they make it past all those lines of security.

Like many others on here, I'm a gun owner but it's absolutely my last line of defense and I would hope to never use it. In fact if you were only using it to protect your tools you'd probably be on shaky legal ground. Personally, I think if you're eyeball to eyeball with someone in your garage, tools or not, you've probably got a good reason to believe you're in danger.
 

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People see Jerry Lea throw this Boat Bumber ten feet in the air and they change there mind about coming on our property

Reminds me of one of my friend's GSD... She's a solid 120 lbs... One night a couple kids tried to break into his truck, he let Dixie out (the GSD) to handle them. Heard a little screaming and barking then silence, when the cops finally showed up, Dixie was standing on one of the kid's and had the other kid's neck securely in her mouth. Neither of them moved a muscle till he called her off. Wish someone took a picture of that...
 

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In the last 2 years my dog has alerted me to people outside breaking into cars (not mine), people rummaging through trash cans and nearly mauled a guy that I confronted coming over my rear fence. I'm a big believer in dogs as well.

Alarms are good as well but I think good neighbors are almost as good. I'm lucky enough to live in a neighborhood where someone is home all the time. We all watch out for each other and have a neighborhood call/email list for notification.

Dog, alarm, locks, neighbors and cameras all make it more difficult and less appealing to criminals but you should consider insurance, tool marking and an inventory list in case they make it past all those lines of security.

Like many others on here, I'm a gun owner but it's absolutely my last line of defense and I would hope to never use it. In fact if you were only using it to protect your tools you'd probably be on shaky legal ground. Personally, I think if you're eyeball to eyeball with someone in your garage, tools or not, you've probably got a good reason to believe you're in danger.

Gents....that is about as accurate and common sense as you can get....outstand example to follow....

Good post GarageEnvy
 

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I have all the security system I need...

Your security system looks adequate.

Your trigger discipline, however, is unacceptable, unless you are planning on shooting a hole in the window over the kitchen sink, and through whatever is behind the kitchen sink. :sad:
 
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I have a Rot. German Sheppard mix but around here they aren't very scared of dogs. They broke into my neighbors house who had a security system, just a few minutes after he left for work & his dog "Airedale" was in the house. The cops got to the house before he got back after being notified by the alarm co. but they were gone before the cops got there. In & out in under 6-8 min is what he told me.

Trust me, it doesn't matter to my Rottie *Artemus* whether you are afraid of dogs or not. Don't let his looks fool you, he is definitely not to be trifled with. Besides, he is a very good first warning system....:thumbup:

Your security system looks adequate.

Your trigger discipline, however, is unacceptable, unless you are planning on shooting a hole in the window over the kitchen sink, and through whatever is behind the kitchen sink. :sad:
I have arthritis in my right hand, that finger is really bent, it's actually on the back edge of the trigger guard. I couldn't pull the trigger with it if I tried. I use my middle finger for trigger work. My windows are safe....
 
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Buddy runs an independent BMW repair shop in Arizona. He usually has one or two pit bull rescues there 24/7. Gentle dogs when he is around. When he's not there, well, there are some splotches of blood near his fence where someone found out the hard way. Good dog.
 

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Could some write something intelligent aboiut me replacing my inward opening wood framed doiors with outward opening steel framed doors............is it worth the expense.

And what about drill proof lock sets ????

I dispise ALL you tough talking gun owners.....
 

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Garage door on an opener can be defeated in about ten seconds. And every crackhead knows how. Watch youtube. Then do something to prevent it. I bolted plates to the side of my carriage to stop them hooking the pull. But it is still operable if there was an emergency of some sort.

I cut the rope off of my emergency release. If I want to release it, I can hook it with a wire or slide a screwdriver through and pull on it.
 

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I've been toying with getting a smoke cloak type of system. When the alarm goes off the building fills with a heavy white fog. I jokingly thought of having a Vincent price type of laugh saying "enjoy the poison gas, they'll never find your body" play loudly as the smoke comes out. The building fills from the back so the people have a chance to run out the front.

Here is a video of the system.



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My garage door has this, and I keep it padlocked:

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Looks cool. If you already have some padlocks around, a cheap alternative is to put one through a convenient track opening. The extended shackle ones work best. One through the track on each side works great, I found spots on mine that would inhibit anything more than about 1" upward travel. If you buy them in pairs, keyed alike, all the merrier. :thumbup:
 

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Could some write something intelligent aboiut me replacing my inward opening wood framed doiors with outward opening steel framed doors............is it worth the expense.
And what about drill proof lock sets ????

I dispise ALL you tough talking gun owners.....

You seem to have answered your own questions. I feel sorry that you despise someone you know nothing about. For the record, anyone exercising their second amendment rights legally is more than welcome at my place.
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My neighbor doesn't believe in my second amendment rights.
So, I won't be protecting his property with my gun...!
 

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We live out in the boon docks and its an average 30 - 45 minute for a deputy to show up for a burglary or break in so you are pretty much on your own. For my shop we lock it, we have the farm dogs, and I built it in an area that is hard to get to because you have to go through a couple of gates, go past the house and MILs trailer, and then its still in open view of the barn yard and road...but determined thieves could still find a way. I live in an area that is thankfully not seeing a lot of theft but it does happen.

I would hate to have bars and all that stuff on my shop and feel like a prisoner in my own place (I understand some live in areas where that is necessary) and even though I am usually armed (I live on a farm and its just part of that) I dont own anything worth shooting anyone over and I guess for me marking your tools, having dogs, maybe security lights and an audible alarm is about as far as I would go. The most important thing for me is to be well insured.
 

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I keep my 12 guage loaded and by my bedside,, if I hear any ruckuss I shoot first and ask questions later...
 

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Do they make these that ky lock from the outside? I like that idea. Nothing is perfect, but this would give one more level of protection when I am traveling.

Jim :cool:

Back in the day... garage doors had a lockable central handle with flat steel bars that engaged the track at the door edges.

Always used to jam up and easy to defeat because of the long unsupported length of steel.

See some now that uses spring loaded bolts that are connected to central rotating knob by cables
 

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I cut the rope off of my emergency release. If I want to release it, I can hook it with a wire or slide a screwdriver through and pull on it.
They can still do it easily without the rope. You'd either want to zip or wire tie it so it can't be pulled down at all.
 
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