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Looking to build some shelves for the garage. I am thinking of make the shelve brackets from 3/4plywood. Cut plywood at 45 degrees, the shelves would 10 inch wide. Attatch with 3inch 1/4 lag screws into the wall studs.Has anyone made them like this, anyone see any issues with my idea? Shelves will be used for totes, boxes, garag junk, etc. Please attached pics of what I am think.
 

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Plywood does not take to screws on edges very well. I would go get cheap metal brackets from Home depot. They are less than 3 dollars each.
 

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I've been putting up the cheap L brackets for the last couple of weeks. They can hold a lot of weight and don't block the space below it.
 

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I had one spot I was a little iffy on whether it would be strong enough so I just added an extra in between. They are cheap and don't take up space.
 

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simpson tie shelf brackets. They are over with the rest of the simpson stuff. Stay away from the consumer grade stuff over on the other aisle. It is for decoration only. The simpson ones are killer and they are reasonably priced. You can stick pipes, levels, vacuum wands, all kinds of things thru the centers too. These are 9" x 11" but they make a smaller size too.

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My only suggestion is glue the joint between the 45 and the back plate. As said above screws in the end grain of plywood is not so strong.

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simpson tie shelf brackets. They are over with the rest of the simpson stuff. Stay away from the consumer grade stuff over on the other aisle. It is for decoration only. The simpson ones are killer and they are reasonably priced. You can stick pipes, levels, vacuum wands, all kinds of things thru the centers too. These are 9" x 11" but they make a smaller size too.


What is the weight capacity on these, I can't find anything on them?
 
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I thought my idea was pretty good and I had some smaller pieces of plywood lying around and wanted to put them to use but i will take your guys advice and buy some brackets.
 

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simpson tie shelf brackets. They are over with the rest of the simpson stuff. Stay away from the consumer grade stuff over on the other aisle. It is for decoration only. The simpson ones are killer and they are reasonably priced. You can stick pipes, levels, vacuum wands, all kinds of things thru the centers too. These are 9" x 11" but they make a smaller size too.


What is the weight capacity on these, I can't find anything on them?

I am 6' and weigh 350 lb - I can hang on one. A lot will depend what you mount them onto, what type screws you use, and how far apart. I have one every stud in the garage, lots of boxes of car parts, and the shelves don't even flex. The way they are made they are heavier than the other ones shown in this thread.
 

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No problem if you'd rather build your own. The design looks good appearance wise but as people pointed out you're relying entirely on the thread of many screws holding in a layered piece of plywood. They'll delaminate pretty easy with 3 long screws in such a small piece along similar or same layers.

I built my own and enjoyed doing it, they're quite strong and made use of some scraps too like you wanted. Take a look around the web, there's no shortage of good strong options. Of course nothing is faster than buying but aren't we all makers at heart?

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No problem if you'd rather build your own. The design looks good appearance wise but as people pointed out you're relying entirely on the thread of many screws holding in a layered piece of plywood. They'll delaminate pretty easy with 3 long screws in such a small piece along similar or same layers.

I built my own and enjoyed doing it, they're quite strong and made use of some scraps too like you wanted. Take a look around the web, there's no shortage of good strong options. Of course nothing is faster than buying but aren't we all makers at heart?

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So, 2x4's or 2x6's might be better, because no-layers? Also more-meat around the screws. I think the Simpson strong-tie brackets look pretty-good.
 
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They hold an amazing amount of weight..

I am using them here...

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So bought some of these and the holes on the center where it bends seemed two separated that screws most likely won't hit/screw into the studs. I put one over a 2x4 I had and i can tell the screw by were the bracket bends would barely hit the 2x4.
 
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simpson tie shelf brackets. They are over with the rest of the simpson stuff. Stay away from the consumer grade stuff over on the other aisle. It is for decoration only. The simpson ones are killer and they are reasonably priced. You can stick pipes, levels, vacuum wands, all kinds of things thru the centers too. These are 9" x 11" but they make a smaller size too.

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Did you use #7 screw or lag screw with these. I have one side on my wall that i want a 16 ft shelf and trying to determine the spacing of the brackets and type of screw or lag bolt.
 

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So bought some of these and the holes on the center where it bends seemed two separated that screws most likely won't hit/screw into the studs. I put one over a 2x4 I had and i can tell the screw by were the bracket bends would barely hit the 2x4.

These are what I used in my basement and garage. Piled a ton of stuff on them, never had one break or bend.

Just drive the screw in on an angle towards the center to hit the stud.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-12-in-x-14-in-White-Shelf-Bracket-15255/202034281
 
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I got some Simpson some brackets and made some shelving for the real heavy stuff but they alcost a lot. So I made some brackets and would like some feed back. They are mad out of 1x2 common wood, 18 gauge brad nail, 1-1/4 finish nail and Gorilla wood glue. I made four and put them up in my shed along with plywood and I was able to sit on the shelf with out any issue, I am 200 lbs. I also stacked multiple bins anything I can find to test them, all all were fine. I thinking only add a max load of about per 75 lbs shelf, I would like to get some peoples thoughts on these.
 

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I got some Simpson some brackets and made some shelving for the real heavy stuff but they alcost a lot. So I made some brackets and would like some feed back. They are mad out of 1x2 common wood, 18 gauge brad nail, 1-1/4 finish nail and Gorilla wood glue. I made four and put them up in my shed along with plywood and I was able to sit on the shelf with out any issue, I am 200 lbs. I also stacked multiple bins anything I can find to test them, all all were fine. I thinking only add a max load of about per 75 lbs shelf, I would like to get some peoples thoughts on these.

End grain glue joints are notoriously weak, so the brads are doing all the work

How much damage will one cause when it fails? Personally I'd not trust that.
 
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Would adding two screws at each end grain joints joint help? I did add a finish nail. I was just trying to use some extra scraps of wood I have, they are annoying me because they are in my way ha ha. That and I enjoy working and making things with wood but obviously I am not super experience.
 
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Would adding two screws at each end grain joints joint help? I did add a finish nail. I was just trying to use some extra scraps of wood I have, they are annoying me because they are in my way ha ha. That and I enjoy working and making things with wood but obviously I am not super experience.

Add plywood triangles on each side to enclose the open space and they will hold much more. If they are being mounted on bare studs(without sheetrock) extend the plywood to attach to the stud as well and they will hold a ton
 

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Add plywood triangles on each side to enclose the open space and they will hold much more. If they are being mounted on bare studs(without sheetrock) extend the plywood to attach to the stud as well and they will hold a ton

I concur, this is the best way to make what you got usable.
 

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Several years back I need some shelving brackets to make a wood rack in the garage. I used these 8x10 brackets

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Rated for 300+ lbs for a pair and I think I used 4. I opened up the screw hole a bit so I could use lags.

The worked so well, I bought some more slightly smaller for general shelving. I did not want to take the time to rip down plywood, so I bought some 1x6 and screwed it on top. 2 piece was a bit wider than the horizontal part so I just added an extra screw hole so that each "plank" had 2 screws.
 

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Several years back I need some shelving brackets to make a wood rack in the garage. I used these 8x10 brackets

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Rated for 300+ lbs for a pair and I think I used 4. I opened up the screw hole a bit so I could use lags.

The worked so well, I bought some more slightly smaller for general shelving. I did not want to take the time to rip down plywood, so I bought some 1x6 and screwed it on top. 2 piece was a bit wider than the horizontal part so I just added an extra screw hole so that each "plank" had 2 screws.

I have these in white and they hold a ton. I have a loft area in my garage and I used these to extend out over the open bay to store Jeep parts and other stuff in bins. Freed up a lot of floor space.
 
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Add plywood triangles on each side to enclose the open space and they will hold much more. If they are being mounted on bare studs(without sheetrock) extend the plywood to attach to the stud as well and they will hold a ton

So I use screws or nails to attach the triangles to the brackets?
 

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My approach is a little different. I use those 12" green shelves that are everywhere and screw them into the wall studs, they are suspended by wires from the floor joists. Amazingly strong.
 

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My approach is a little different. I use those 12" green shelves that are everywhere and screw them into the wall studs, they are suspended by wires from the floor joists. Amazingly strong.


Looks like you have 2x6 solid wood trusses, mine just 2x4 that spans about 30 feet, I don't feel comfortable connecting the shelving to the trusses but none the less pretty cool.
 

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I got some Simpson some brackets and made some shelving for the real heavy stuff but they alcost a lot. So I made some brackets and would like some feed back. They are mad out of 1x2 common wood, 18 gauge brad nail, 1-1/4 finish nail and Gorilla wood glue. I made four and put them up in my shed along with plywood and I was able to sit on the shelf with out any issue, I am 200 lbs. I also stacked multiple bins anything I can find to test them, all all were fine. I thinking only add a max load of about per 75 lbs shelf, I would like to get some peoples thoughts on these.
2quiker Take out ur brace ,replace it with triangular piece of ply glued with titebond glue
and pocket screws and glue and screw to wall ain't comeing down.

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