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Garage “stem wall?” Seapage ?

Alchase

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The six inch high concrete lip, (stem wall? Can’t remember what it is called) that the exterior wall rests on.
Has a slight leak between the wall and the concrete, when rain comes from the North.
How should I seal this up? Caulk the exterior or some kind of flashing?
This seems like an odd place for a leak. Though first rain after buying this house new in 2015, we had water leaking under the exterior door. Realized the contractor put the exterior door on backwards, Opening out.
Had the sill and door replaced. And now it is leaking between the wall and concrete sill.
I would appreciate any advice how to correct this.
Thank you
 
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Is it parged? That would be step one. Are you sure it's coming through the stem wall and not running down the siding (or behind the siding) and ending with no place to go so coming in rather than going out?
 
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Alchase

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Sorry it took so long to reply.
It is dry now but where the brown stain is, where it was coming through. Just a small trickled probably no more than a cup but concerning. The outside wall has a brick facia exterior and has a 3’x6’ frame filled with lava rock for a garbage can storage area about 3” away from the wall but too close for a pic.
I looked around the eve and light fixtures but could not see any obvious location where water could come through. Grade is fine.
It doesn’t leak on rain coming straight down or from the south. Only from the rare north rain.
 

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Why is an outswinging door backwards? You can't kick it in, that's for sure. Snow? Well that's an issue and why people put covers over doors. If they can.

Any new problem started at the last change. You might ask the inswing door installer how they flashed.
 
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Alchase

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I think I found it. Below are the outside pics.
I did spray water from the hose, a trickle started under both sides of the door jamb, and ran down the stem wall bit, and a trickle started down from the left side (looking out).
I don’t see any flashing under the door either.
Any ideas on the best way to seal this up preferably without removing the whole door and frame?

And thank you all for the help I really appreciate it!
 

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The six inch high concrete lip, (stem wall? Can’t remember what it is called) that the exterior wall rests on.
Around here we just call it a curb.
Has a slight leak between the wall and the concrete, when rain comes from the North.
Your only long term, REAL, solution is a small ditch on the outside. The ditch must be pitched so the water has some place to drain to. I can be right up against the curb on the outside (assuming you have a footer under the curb) but it has to be deep enough so that water never reaches the seam.
 

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How is water entering under the door threshold and migrating up onto the stem wall? Is there a step down to the pad inside the door?

I agree with correcting the issue outside the building. Unfortunately, it looks like you have a pad poured at the threshold level outside the door (from the photo in post #9). Is that correct?
 

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The door jamb is already rotting. The right side is enough to let water pass. I'm not sure if that is your source of all your water leaking, but it will continue to get worse. The kerf channel is already bad enough to not hold weatherstrip.
Tough fix. The door assembly is getting a lot of water pressure and sitting on grade makes a long term fix a little more challenging.

Replacing and raising the door is one solution. You could install an actual threshold with that method. It might be doable without going nuts. What is around the opening? Is there extra height in the rough opening? I'm also curious what is causing so much water to hit and sit the doorway?
I have a number of doors mounted right on the pad. I can only think of one that had that kind of water pressure. That door had a short overhang above and water kept splashing as it hit the ground. Gutters helped.
 
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Alchase

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The door is on the top step (of two above grade) we did a second test with the hose, spraying only the siding, not the door. We observed no leaking. So it seems to be coming from the door frame on both sides. With the right one (from outside pic) being the worst. I am going to remove all the old caulk, and replace, but I am not sure if there should be any "flashing" installed there, or how it could be done without removing the whole door and frame?

BTW, thank you for all the advice! (y)
 
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