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Garage Storage Plywood Organizer Boxes "Beer Box Replacement"

Mechanibus

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Ok, 1st post and the token expired, and reloading the page as directed caused my lengthy post to disappear- Welcome back to forum posting I guess.

There is an existing, poorly-built but large shelf unit in the garage, and up to now I've been using a variety of beer boxes as containers.

It was time to step this up a notch and get more use from the storage space.
 
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Now maybe I can post pics.

aovm20y.jpg

This is the existing, poorly-built-but-large shelf unit. As you can see, I was using some "field-expedient" containers.



Y0oe6Rb.jpg

While I don't have access to the build pics of the boxes right now, suffice it to say I made a crapload of them. 27 "Small", 6 "Medium", and 3 "Large" which fit either 9, 6, or 3 to a "space."



rUfKPj1.jpg

Building them was a fiasco, I attempted box joinery for the first time and muffed it, but not before I cut inaccurate box fingers on every single piece. They are made of "Carefully Selected" CDX sheathing, 3/8" thick.

On the large box above, you can see that each box corner has a spline connecting the two edges. Since the box fingers wouldn't mesh, I was forced to cut them off, but needed the boxes to remain the same size.

I cut rabbets on the box edges, and made spline stock that was profiled to accept the two rabbeted edges. I'll get a better pic of that later if there is interest.



mVVBZ6G.jpg

You can also see in this pic that the first set of handle holes I cut (on right) is rougher than the final ones. (left) This is because my first attempt involved using a panel-pilot bit, and was a disaster.



aI22YWR.jpg

Panel pilot bits could easily be renamed "project ruiner bits" but honestly, all router bits could be called that. In my mind, the router is the most contrary, destructive, difficult to control tool. Since there is no bearing on the pilot area of this bit, I realized a wooden form wouldn't do so I had the machinist at work make me a template. Unfortunately the spinning steel pilot ate into the aluminum template surprisingly quickly, and by the second cut it was ruined.



1Q8U77W.jpg

You can see that my template is just barely larger than the earlier ugly holes.



W45Fpft.jpg

I even tried setting the bit up with a bushing as you see above, but the bushing took too much space, so the new cutout wouldn't completely remove the old, ragged one. So I ended up going back to the old tried-and-true bottom bearing flush trim bit.



Gglop6e.jpg

The only reason I didn't start here is that I had 84 handle holes to cut, and I was afraid that the bearing would catch, and end up ruining the template just like the metal one. I've had that happen. I was careful to keep the bearing clean and the work clean, and the template survived.



8hggnra.jpg

Another shot comparing handle holes, nice on left, rough on right.



4An1Wnw.jpg

Anyway, I screwed some fences to the template for the small size box and cut the holes. One or two aren't perfect, but the results were much better this time. I just moved or removed the various fences while I cut the medium and large boxes. Each box got two holes, but the large boxes got six to make them visually harmonius and because they're really "handy" when lugging down the large heavy box, on a ladder.



8l4od7o.jpg

With all of the boxes built, it was time to start swapping them out.



n4X0T0D.jpg

After a little work. . .



VwQ6f9I.jpg

Getting there!



vRRRsdl.jpg

All in place, and the rubber mat removed and grey tubs spread out. I feel this uses the space much better, gives larger containers, and more size choices.

Anyway, this is one of my first steps on the way to serious garage organization. This project was slated for 1-2 weekends, and ended up being 2 MONTHS of weekends, but hey, that's how it goes. I really made my life hard by blowing the box joints, and having to extensively re-process each part and add in the four splines, but it saved my material, and maybe the boxes have a bit of character now. I was liberal with the glue, and they came out pretty strong!

I hope this was intersting to someone, and I hope that people enjoy following my progress. I have lots of other projects in my pics file, and many more yet to come.

Mini-Review of the tools involved:

Panel Pilot bit- Good only for rough carpentry, such as cutting out a window hole after you sheet over it. Worhtless for anything else.

Flush trim bit- A staple of the router world- works fine until the bearing seizes, watch for that.

Router- Triton TR001 router in Peachtree iron router wing- Lots of reviews on this router, I second them all- it is a good quality, beast of a router and perfectly suited for table use. Recommended. This was my first project with it and I'm really happy with it.
 

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I've had a few posts disappear on me....frustrating. If its a long one written by jumping to photo hosting sites I copy <ctrl + c> the entire thing and paste <ctrl + v> into notepad or word. Then if you get bonked from the site you have it all waiting in another window for another try :cool:
 

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No photos for me but I am sympathetic.
I've gone the "beer box" route, the heavy duty 3 layer cardboard Lowes/Home Depot box, the self built 1/2" plywood box with 2x1 runners on the bottom routes.
The "beer box" route was only good for a few cases in '84 - heavy duty, waxed cardboard for bud long necks. Later bb boxes were more lightly made and fell apart.
The HD 3 layer cardboard has been fair if the humidity is controlled, which t isn't in my shops in Mississippi.
The 1/2" plywood boxes are good, but with a decent top HEAVY.

I've about settled on the 27 gallon yellow top black plastic totes from Costco, Staples, HD, Lowes etc. (28"L x 20"W x 15"W) I've tried the transparent "Sterilite" totes but they all seemed to get brittle after about five years. I can often get them on sale for about $7 or less, which is close to the price of 2 of the heavy duty moving boxes which are 18" x 18" x 16"H ($2.45@Lowes) but they last a lot longer in humidity.
 
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and like this?
Now maybe I can post pics.

aovm20y.jpg

This is the existing, poorly-built-but-large shelf unit. As you can see, I was using some "field-expedient" containers.



Y0oe6Rb.jpg

While I don't have access to the build pics of the boxes right now, suffice it to say I made a crapload of them. 27 "Small", 6 "Medium", and 3 "Large" which fit either 9, 6, or 3 to a "space."



rUfKPj1.jpg

Building them was a fiasco, I attempted box joinery for the first time and muffed it, but not before I cut inaccurate box fingers on every single piece. They are made of "Carefully Selected" CDX sheathing, 3/8" thick.

On the large box above, you can see that each box corner has a spline connecting the two edges. Since the box fingers wouldn't mesh, I was forced to cut them off, but needed the boxes to remain the same size.

I cut rabbets on the box edges, and made spline stock that was profiled to accept the two rabbeted edges. I'll get a better pic of that later if there is interest.



mVVBZ6G.jpg

You can also see in this pic that the first set of handle holes I cut (on right) is rougher than the final ones. (left) This is because my first attempt involved using a panel-pilot bit, and was a disaster.



aI22YWR.jpg

Panel pilot bits could easily be renamed "project ruiner bits" but honestly, all router bits could be called that. In my mind, the router is the most contrary, destructive, difficult to control tool. Since there is no bearing on the pilot area of this bit, I realized a wooden form wouldn't do so I had the machinist at work make me a template. Unfortunately the spinning steel pilot ate into the aluminum template surprisingly quickly, and by the second cut it was ruined.



1Q8U77W.jpg

You can see that my template is just barely larger than the earlier ugly holes.



W45Fpft.jpg

I even tried setting the bit up with a bushing as you see above, but the bushing took too much space, so the new cutout wouldn't completely remove the old, ragged one. So I ended up going back to the old tried-and-true bottom bearing flush trim bit.



Gglop6e.jpg

The only reason I didn't start here is that I had 84 handle holes to cut, and I was afraid that the bearing would catch, and end up ruining the template just like the metal one. I've had that happen. I was careful to keep the bearing clean and the work clean, and the template survived.



8hggnra.jpg

Another shot comparing handle holes, nice on left, rough on right.



4An1Wnw.jpg

Anyway, I screwed some fences to the template for the small size box and cut the holes. One or two aren't perfect, but the results were much better this time. I just moved or removed the various fences while I cut the medium and large boxes. Each box got two holes, but the large boxes got six to make them visually harmonius and because they're really "handy" when lugging down the large heavy box, on a ladder.



8l4od7o.jpg

With all of the boxes built, it was time to start swapping them out.



n4X0T0D.jpg

After a little work. . .



VwQ6f9I.jpg

Getting there!



vRRRsdl.jpg

All in place, and the rubber mat removed and grey tubs spread out. I feel this uses the space much better, gives larger containers, and more size choices.

Anyway, this is one of my first steps on the way to serious garage organization. This project was slated for 1-2 weekends, and ended up being 2 MONTHS of weekends, but hey, that's how it goes. I really made my life hard by blowing the box joints, and having to extensively re-process each part and add in the four splines, but it saved my material, and maybe the boxes have a bit of character now. I was liberal with the glue, and they came out pretty strong!

I hope this was intersting to someone, and I hope that people enjoy following my progress. I have lots of other projects in my pics file, and many more yet to come.

Mini-Review of the tools involved:

Panel Pilot bit- Good only for rough carpentry, such as cutting out a window hole after you sheet over it. Worhtless for anything else.

Flush trim bit- A staple of the router world- works fine until the bearing seizes, watch for that.

Router- Triton TR001 router in Peachtree iron router wing- Lots of reviews on this router, I second them all- it is a good quality, beast of a router and perfectly suited for table use. Recommended. This was my first project with it and I'm really happy with it.
now that's better
 
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No photos are showing for me, just the little squares.

I thinks other type their “essay” in a document and then copy to the thread page. I’m certainly not the IT expert though.

Thank you, that is good advice. Will do.

I've had a few posts disappear on me....frustrating. If its a long one written by jumping to photo hosting sites I copy <ctrl + c> the entire thing and paste <ctrl + v> into notepad or word. Then if you get bonked from the site you have it all waiting in another window for another try :cool:

Yes, I will certainly remember to do that!

No photos for me but I am sympathetic.
I've gone the "beer box" route, the heavy duty 3 layer cardboard Lowes/Home Depot box, the self built 1/2" plywood box with 2x1 runners on the bottom routes.
The "beer box" route was only good for a few cases in '84 - heavy duty, waxed cardboard for bud long necks. Later bb boxes were more lightly made and fell apart.
The HD 3 layer cardboard has been fair if the humidity is controlled, which t isn't in my shops in Mississippi.
The 1/2" plywood boxes are good, but with a decent top HEAVY.

I've about settled on the 27 gallon yellow top black plastic totes from Costco, Staples, HD, Lowes etc. (28"L x 20"W x 15"W) I've tried the transparent "Sterilite" totes but they all seemed to get brittle after about five years. I can often get them on sale for about $7 or less, which is close to the price of 2 of the heavy duty moving boxes which are 18" x 18" x 16"H ($2.45@Lowes) but they last a lot longer in humidity.

You and I have gone on the same quest, investigating every plastic container. I have several of those 27 gal types and they are good. I agree about Sterilite totes, they eventually become brittle.

My boxes are 3/8 and do have a little weight, but I think it's worth it in greater holding capacity. Those beer boxes certainly were deteriorating as you describe.

Remove the 's' from https I your photo links since you're using imgur.

Will do, thanks for the specific instruction, I appreciate it!

Looks good!!!

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Thanks!

Like this.

aovm20y.jpg

Cool!

how does that electric chainsaw work out? also do you mainly use it for just trimming?

I used it to cut down a few trees 3-4 inches across and trim many thick braches off of a larger tree, and then to process all those limbs. It performed suprisingly well, had good power and the chain only came off a few times, which I consider good performance given how I was treating it. It worked fine on a 50' 14ga cord. Recommended. I think I got that at HD.

and like this?
now that's better

Dude, thanks a bunch. On future posts I'll use the correct url. Thank you for fixing mine this time. I'm just getting back into posting after a long break.
 

matt_i

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This is a great idea and one I want to copy and store for later. I can see the possibilities!

Good job overcoming the adversity of the job. Routers can be finicky tools at times lol!
 
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