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My HOA is starting the process to establish a Garage Addition Prohibition after years of not having one. What can I do to stop this? I consider it unequal treatment and a significant change in the agreement I signed when I bought the house.
 
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My HOA is starting the process to establish a Garage Addition Prohibition after years of not having one. What can I do to stop this? I consider it unequal treatment and a significant change in the agreement I signed when I bought the house.

See if you can make them apply it only to any houses that change ownership after date of regulation. Let them grandfather in the present owners.
 

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Another HOA gone wild huh? The original intent of these things I suppose are good, but too damn often they go crazy with power and want to control everyone and everything.
Depending on how large your HOA is, and how organized, you could threaten them with legal action. Most HOA's I've dealt with do not have the financial means to put up a big fight. So that means going to all the folks in the HOA and trying to secure funds. Unless a large majority are on board with the HOA's thinking, you might be able to get them to back off with just a threat.
 

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Move, or get involved. I may not like HOAs, and if I may be a heartless SOB, you did know what you were getting involved in, it wasn't some secret document you didn't get a look at before signing. Work with the system.
 

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"...you did know what you were getting involved in, it wasn't some secret document you didn't get a look at before signing."

My HOA is starting the process to establish a Garage Addition Prohibition after years of not having one. What can I do to stop this? I consider it unequal treatment and a significant change in the agreement I signed when I bought the house.

From the original post, it looks like the HOA wants to change the rules that have been in place and were in effect when the OP bought the house. I'd fight it too....

Ray
 

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May I suggest you check with a sympathetic real estate agent (or maybe an attorney) to find out exactly what your State's law provides. In GA, a homeowner is only bound by the covenants signed at the closing. If the HOA changes the rules, you are not obligated to sign the new version. If you do not sign the new version, you are still bound by the old version that was signed at closing. In effect, the old covenants apply until you sell your house. Your State may vary so ask someone who knows. Then you still have to convince your architectural committee to let you build it.

Lou
 

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I'm no lawyer, but i would think they need 100% agreement to change the rules after the fact. They may could change the rules for any new buyers after it goes into effect.
 

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Out of curiosity, what is motivating this change in policy? What is it about garage additions that has riled them up?
 
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Do the municipal zoning by-laws not take precedent over your HOA by-laws? HOA's are not common here. We have municipal by-laws that are approved by elected Town Councils. If an amendment is approved by Town Council any individual or legal corporation (a registered homeowners group for example) can appeal the Council decision to the Province. It's absurb to me that you can't appeal a decision of what appears to be an ad hoc committee to a higher authority.
 

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There very well may be a clause allowing for changes. We can, and have altered the constitution of our country. That is why you work with the system. Also think about all the EULAs you agree to with software. A lot of them have clauses allowing for them to change the EULA on you after installation.

That said, I definitely say fight it. Something that major sounds like it would need a pretty large majority to pass, so find enough people who would want to be able to add value to their houses, and get involved.
 

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Sounds like overkill on the part of the HOA board to me. I would assume that they (or an architectural review committee) already has to approve any exterior changes or additions - so there would no need for additional regulations since they can already prohibit any additions they don't like.

Anyone in a subdivision with a HOA should participate in it's operation. If you don't want to get on the Board or a committee, at least show up to the meetings and vote! The best way to ensure that your HOA isn't dominated by HOA Nazis is to participate in the election. Our HOA consists of about 90 homes. Besides the members of the Board and the ARC, there are usually only about a half dozen homeowners who show up. That amazes me....
 

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May I suggest you check with a sympathetic real estate agent (or maybe an attorney) to find out exactly what your State's law provides. In GA, a homeowner is only bound by the covenants signed at the closing. If the HOA changes the rules, you are not obligated to sign the new version. If you do not sign the new version, you are still bound by the old version that was signed at closing. In effect, the old covenants apply until you sell your house. Your State may vary so ask someone who knows. Then you still have to convince your architectural committee to let you build it.

Lou

That would be correct. The covenants run with the land and govern the use of the land, and cannot be changed without the consent of the owner of the property. The covenants, in the case of a PUD, or Planned Urban Development, tie the individual properties to the HOA, depending on how they are worded. The corporate by-laws of the non-profit corp HOA are for the purpose of governing the operation of the corporation and should not, and in some cases, cannot be used to impose restrictions on property owners use of their land. The two are separate and distinct.

Also in Georgia, covenants drafted and filed under the 1995 law I cited in another thread, expire after 20 years. They can be renewed between the 18th and 20th years, but if not renewed, they expire and would require the consent of the property owner to be re implemented. It is questionable if covenants filed on property prior to the 1995 law also expire after 20 years, as it hasn't been tested in court yet. Just to be on the safe side, my neighborhood and HOA drafted new covenants and everyone signed on, so that we were in compliance with the 1995 law.

Edit: Link to the thread in the Free Parking forum (non-searchable) where I posted the entire text of the Georgia Law pertaining to HOA's (except condos, they have a very similar but different law).

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78249

Charles
 
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Get involved so that your voice will be stronger and don't be obnoxious with you addition when you do one because that will reflect poorly on everyone that wants to do an addition after you.
 

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My HOA is starting the process to establish a Garage Addition Prohibition after years of not having one. What can I do to stop this? I consider it unequal treatment and a significant change in the agreement I signed when I bought the house.

Sounds to me like it's time for you to join the HOA as a board member!:bounce:
 

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I heard on the new about a guy serving in Iraq and while he was gone the HOA sold his house for some small reason, and let somebody else move in.
 

southernfriedcj

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In GA, a homeowner is only bound by the covenants signed at the closing. If the HOA changes the rules, you are not obligated to sign the new version. If you do not sign the new version, you are still bound by the old version that was signed at closing. In effect, the old covenants apply until you sell your house. Your State may vary so ask someone who knows. Then you still have to convince your architectural committee to let you build it.

Lou

Not in any subdivision in GA I have ever seen (I'm a developer). All the covenants I have seen in GA require a 2/3 vote to be changed. When the covenants are changed the new rules cover all the property in the subdivision.
 

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