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Garden hose fittings seizing up

STREETFIGHTER50

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I had to use a torch to take apart the hose ends. Pliers and vise grips would not work. I guess the aluminum and brass corroded together after a couple years. What’s the best way to prevent this? Anti-seize or Teflon tape? Has anyone used silicone spray?
 
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Horrible idea some of these companies came up with using aluminum, I use anti-seize or a dab of grease.
 

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Horrible idea some of these companies came up with using aluminum, I use anti-seize or a dab of grease.

I've been using teflon tape and silicone grease. With minimal success.

The idea is likely to get around California Prop 65 warnings on brass, or just the cost of brass. And it *****!
 

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It ***** you can't even find brass fitting hose any longer. (I live in CA) Even though. you can find brass spigots. I suspect, its a cost driver. The local hardware store has brass replacement ends which I've used. I tried a nickel anti sieze paste a few months ago so we'll see how that holds up.
 

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Don’t buy aluminum fittings........the only reason they exist is they are cheaper. As mentioned the are really bad idea. Similar to aluminum valve stem caps on car tires....they got recalled.

Anti seize is really messy......it going to get every where...........so that’s no a solution.


Just another reason not to California.
 

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Galvanic reaction from dissimilar metals. The water in the hose is providing the connection from inside the hose. Coating the threads with whatever isn't going to change that.
 

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Galvanic reaction from dissimilar metals. The water in the hose is providing the connection from inside the hose. Coating the threads with whatever isn't going to change that.

A thick enough coating to prevent electrical conductivity will change that, but even a few wraps of teflon will not be sufficient.
 

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I used a liberal amount of anti-seize on my connections and after one year, they came apart no issues. It's now part of my regular hose maintenance - put away them away in winter (bring inside) and take connections apart. Anti-seize in spring and put them back together.
 

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On ebay or Amazon you can get brass hose ends, cut the junky aluminum one off. I've never tried a quick connect like for hydraulic or air.
I wouldn't use teflon tape. Grease maybe, but I've never had a problem brass to brass.20210513_135618.jpg

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STREETFIGHTER50

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Ok I will try some silicone grease on the fittings. ***** this Zero-G hose in front of my house finally burst. Lasted for 3.5 years so I think I can still get a replacement under warranty. Thanks for all the replies! :)
 

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We use a lot of hoses on wastewater plant sites, I've taken to fluid film on metal to metal hose connections.

Been trying to go to more gatorlock poly camlock ends too.
 

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There was just a thread last week that touched on aluminum hose ends. yeah, they ****.
I guess the antis seize is an option, but you could buy some brass ones off of Ebay etc and replace them
 

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It ***** you can't even find brass fitting hose any longer. (I live in CA) Even though. you can find brass spigots. I suspect, its a cost driver. The local hardware store has brass replacement ends which I've used. I tried a nickel anti sieze paste a few months ago so we'll see how that holds up.

Maybe not in store, but brass end hoses are available.

Continental, Dramm are two. There are others.
 

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it doesn't help that garden hoses have their own thread (3/4" x 11.5 TPI) called "garden hose thread", which makes it impossible to easily transfer over to pipe thread fittings. I found this out some years ago when I went looking for some thread chasers to clean up some old hose connectors and nozzles.

If you connect and disconnect alot, switching over to quick disconnect fittings may be your answer. Even if the thread portions seize you can still unhook hoses and accessories.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0008IT0GE/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 
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A hillbilly buddy had a scientific term for dissimilar metals seizing up...it's called "growed together".
 

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it doesn't help that garden hoses have their own thread (3/4" x 11.5 TPI) called "garden hose thread", which makes it impossible to easily transfer over to pipe thread fittings. I found this out some years ago when I went looking for some thread chasers to clean up some old hose connectors and nozzles.

If you connect and disconnect alot, switching over to quick disconnect fittings may be your answer. Even if the thread portions seize you can still unhook hoses and accessories.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0008IT0GE/?tag=atomicindus08-20

There are adapters for hose thread to pipe thread or SAE. Search pressure washer sites.
 

scottja

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After a few seasons of purchasing new hoses and ends, now I use anti-seize on all the joints.
Our water is very hard, and the brass/copper/aluminum/potmetal fittings would just corrode, and break when I tried to take them apart. Now they come apart nicely, and I can re-assembly multiple times before I need to re-cote with anti-seize.
I just have to not drop the hose and sprayer ends in the dirt.
 

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Had this happen a few years ago. It was stuck so much that I was using some vise-grips and channellocks to get the hose off, but the whole spigot broke off, sending a stream of water gushing out. Had to cut off the water supply and replace the spigot. I was not happy at all.

Since then I've been using petroleum jelly. Silicon-based thread lube might be better, but so far the petroleum jelly has been working just fine.

Speaking of which, does anyone have a good recommendation for a garden hose? It seems like they are all junk now. They kink easily, and leak around the connectors.
 

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Since then I've been using petroleum jelly. Silicon-based thread lube might be better, but so far the petroleum jelly has been working just fine.

Speaking of which, does anyone have a good recommendation for a garden hose? It seems like they are all junk now. They kink easily, and leak around the connectors.

I have been using the super flexible expandable hose (like Bionic or Pocket hose) for three years now and have been happy with them. My other conventional hose would get stiff and brittle after that amount of time. I always had them on a hose reel to keep them in good shape, but they would kink and collapse after the first year. Make sure you get a larger I.D. if you plan on using with a pressure washer.
 

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If you don't mind the price the best I have ever used is ELEY.

A bit hard to find too.
I won't say they are impossible to kink but close. Also a very light hose as it's Polyurethane.
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Was looking at hoses today at Big Orange and saw a pretty stout looking good year hose. Looked at the fitting gs and noticed they were gold painted aluminum. Utter garbage what these companies do to make you think you are getting a brass fitting.
 

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I have pretty good luck with Flexzilla hoses.

Flexzilla® Premium Hoses, Tools & Equipment » Garden Hose
https://www.flexzilla.com › water › garden-hose
Flexzilla® Garden Hose was engineered with a lightweight Flexible Hybrid Polymer to lie flat and eliminate ...
 

danski0224

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I have pretty good luck with Flexzilla hoses.

Flexzilla® Premium Hoses, Tools & Equipment » Garden Hose
https://www.flexzilla.com › water › garden-hose
Flexzilla® Garden Hose was engineered with a lightweight Flexible Hybrid Polymer to lie flat and eliminate ...

Their garden hose is junk.

Aluminum ends.

The hose material gets black with mold/mildew.

Yes, it's lightweight and otherwise nice.
 

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If you don't mind the price the best I have ever used is ELEY.

A bit hard to find too.
I won't say they are impossible to kink but close. Also a very light hose as it's Polyurethane.
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After my last hose fell apart after a few years, I looked for something that would hopefully last longer. I landed on ELEY. Their hardware is all brass and the hose doesn't kink or otherwise get tangled up on itself. I coupled that with stainless quick connects and have had no problems as brass and stainless are not prone to galvanically react with each other like aluminum is. It wasn't cheap but it is meeting my expectations.
 
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