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Sparing no expense now! :D

Speed square and circ would have done it :lol:

And I do have scratch my head there :headscrat

But nice to have good tools. :)

When I built my shed it was at my out of state land 20 mi from my home at the time. Had no electric service yet and cordless tools weren't worthy of much back then. I made all my cuts at the house including the plywood. I did do some the soffit and gable trim on site with...omg a "hand saw".
And ALL the nails were put in with hammer :p


Looks good carry on!
 
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Sparing no expense now! :D

Speed square and circ would have done it :lol:

And I do have scratch my head there :headscrat

But nice to have good tools. :)

When I built my shed it was at my out of state land 20 mi from my home at the time. Had no electric service yet and cordless tools weren't worthy of much back then. I made all my cuts at the house including the plywood. I did do some the soffit and gable trim on site with...omg a "hand saw".
And ALL the nails were put in with hammer :p


Looks good carry on!

I know, early on I was trying to build this on a tight budget, but it's soooo much easier with nice materials & tools. My neighbors don't go camping, they go Glamping (glamorous camping). I think they're rubbing off on me.
 

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Nothing wrong with collecting tools as you go....that’s how I do it. Shed looks good.


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Since the shed is 8x8, I'm trying to use 2 sheets of 4x8 t1-11 per side, but I'm not sure of the best way to do the front of the shed with the door.
I was thinking to trace out the door opening & cut out an additional 3/4" per side & use that on the doors, but if there's a better way I'd like to know.
 

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I see what's going on here... the old "tell my wife we could save a whole bunch of money by building it from scratch which justifies the purchase of a bunch of new tools" routine. Well played sir - I especially like strategy of buying both pre-owned and new tools - that is a nice twist that will keep the suspicious looks at bay.

All joking aside, nice work so far. Good on you for taking on a project that you know little about, and asking the questions and doing the research to get it right. You'll make some mistakes here and there, but a garden shed is the perfect project to start building your skill set (and tool collection).
 

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Since the shed is 8x8, I'm trying to use 2 sheets of 4x8 t1-11 per side, but I'm not sure of the best way to do the front of the shed with the door.
I was thinking to trace out the door opening & cut out an additional 3/4" per side & use that on the doors, but if there's a better way I'd like to know.

How wide is that door opening? If you want to reuse the drop as the door, have you considered centering a sheet on the door opening, and then ripping the other sheet in halves for the sides? You'll end up with two vertical seams on that wall, but a solid piece of drop that could be used as the door.
 
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How wide is that door opening? If you want to reuse the drop as the door, have you considered centering a sheet on the door opening, and then ripping the other sheet in halves for the sides? You'll end up with two vertical seams on that wall, but a solid piece of drop that could be used as the door.

Thanks for the response. Door is around 36" & I did consider using a solid sheet for the door but I saw there is overlap between the sheets & one of the side pieces wouldn't have overlap. I just traced the door opening & cut, then I attatched the cutout piece to the framed out door. We'll see I guess.
Anyway, here's the progress. 4 of 5 roof joists were in line (the 4th one back is an A-hole joist); not sure what happened to the 5th one. I used string to line everything up. My roof might not be very straight, but the shed walls are square. I probably would use a roof ridge technique next time.
 

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Put the roof on with only 1 issue. The 4th roof joist is out of control; not sure how this happened but the angle opened up a little. You can see the bottom edge of the roof is high & the top of the roof is sunken in. I should have just not used it. 4 joists would have been fine probably. I tried fixing it the best I could.

Anyway, I bought & paid for :sad: some trim at HD. 5" for the top, 4" everywhere else. I also bought some drip edge and 30# tar. My question is, which should go on 1st, 2nd & last. Trim, rdrip edge or tar paper?
 

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Good job so far.

When we first got married, I talked the wife into the, "Each new project gets 1 new tool" rule. 10 years later and I have a nice woodworking shop.
 

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Nice work so far! I'm a bit late to this party but this guy has some great videos including a series on building a shed.

 

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Did you put these on the sheeting for the roof? If not, it will sag at the gaps.
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As for the flashing:
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Just a few pointers for future reference.

Top plates should be held back 3.5" on two of the four walls, and over hanging 3.5" on the other two. That way you can square up the wall and tie them together easily.

Also, it would prolong the life of the shed to put gables on the front and back of the shed. Also run the overhangs a little longer so water doesn't splash onto the shed from the roof.
 

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Just a few pointers for future reference.

Top plates should be held back 3.5" on two of the four walls, and over hanging 3.5" on the other two. That way you can square up the wall and tie them together easily.

Also, it would prolong the life of the shed to put gables on the front and back of the shed. Also run the overhangs a little longer so water doesn't splash onto the shed from the roof.

First of all, I appreciate the honest helpful feedback...
  • Yeah, I messed up on the fron top plates, but I got the back ones. Good catch.
  • I was overwhelmed by the idea of overhangs on the gables & chickened out after having a mild panic attack.
Now, I'm trying to figure out how much paint I'll need for 192 sq/ft of T1-11. It feels like a sponge. My wife & kids are going to pick the colors this weekend (hoa allows us to pick the shade of brown).
 

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First of all, I appreciate the honest helpful feedback...
  • Yeah, I messed up on the fron top plates, but I got the back ones. Good catch.
  • I was overwhelmed by the idea of overhangs on the gables & chickened out after having a mild panic attack.
Now, I'm trying to figure out how much paint I'll need for 192 sq/ft of T1-11. It feels like a sponge. My wife & kids are going to pick the colors this weekend (hoa allows us to pick the shade of brown).

Don't you worry none about the those gable overhangs. On a little storage shed like that they are mostly decorative anyhow and it's not like your needing ventilated soffits. Just do your underlayment drip edge proper like has been shown and you will never have no troubles. My shed was built the exact same way and you do have eave overhangs. The whole point in beginning was to do this on the cheap right? Overhangs = more material!

Not gonna cut you no slack on the top plate overlap though :lol_hitti

Carry on

I'm enjoying this

On my shed I added the wall blocking in straight line (not staggered for easy nailing) and then faced it off all around with 1x4. It gave me neat storage pockets all the way around I have them filled with spray cans. bolts and other small items nothing falls off or out.

I face nailed a second 1 x 4 on two walls up high and with large nails I spaced and hung all my shovels. rakes, loppers, posthole digger. hedge shears

Axes and sledges all fit below the mid shelf in stud bays. Garden hoses an other bulk goes overhead on my upper storage
 

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Don't you worry none about the those gable overhangs. On a little storage shed like that they are mostly decorative anyhow and it's not like your needing ventilated soffits.

I wasn't thinking ventilation when referencing the gables, it was more from the water intrusion standpoint.
 
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I see what's going on here... the old "tell my wife we could save a whole bunch of money by building it from scratch which justifies the purchase of a bunch of new tools" routine. Well played sir - I especially like strategy of buying both pre-owned and new tools - that is a nice twist that will keep the suspicious looks at bay.

All joking aside, nice work so far. Good on you for taking on a project that you know little about, and asking the questions and doing the research to get it right. You'll make some mistakes here and there, but a garden shed is the perfect project to start building your skill set (and tool collection).

I'm with you and have used that plenty of times myself! LOL old garage journal tricks of the trade.
 
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Working 13 hour shifts & rain are slowing down progress, but I got some trim work done & got a 5 gallon dark brown Behr paint & 1 gallon of Behr trim paint and a gallon of Kilz primer from the "mistakes" section of HD all for $39 :rocker:. Should get the roof done Tuesday.
Edit : Took paint back to HD.
 

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Paint on walls this morning; 2nd coat after I get full shade in back yard as well as trim paint. I found a store that sells open box & last years model items in Houston. Full of "new" tools, flooring, paint...Picked up a Graco Truecoat DS airless sprayer, 5 gallons of SW Duration (7023) paint & an electric Arrow stapler (heavy duty red one) for $100 bill.
It took about 2.5 gallons so far. The Graco works great, no complaints & super fast.
 

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Paint on walls this morning; 2nd coat after I get full shade in back yard as well as trim paint. I found a store that sells open box & last years model items in Houston. Full of "new" tools, flooring, paint...Picked up a Graco Truecoat DS airless sprayer, 5 gallons of SW Duration (7023) paint & an electric Arrow stapler (heavy duty red one) for $100 bill.
It took about 2.5 gallons so far. The Graco works great, no complaints & super fast.

Looks great! That is one hell of a deal on stuff. 5 gallons of paint? Wow! That is a lot for your small shed.
 
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Finally had a day off without the family in the house. Risky business.
 

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The concrete crew showed up and didn't bring a hand groover?

Coach

Yes. They originally wanted to pour the first day, but didn't bring enough wood for forms, or anything for the curved part of the pour. And even then, they "borrowed" a 2x3 from me to screed with. And they ended up doing a poor job on the curve, if I could go back in time, I would have done the curve myself that evening.
Needless to say, I'll not be using them again.

And OP, you're doing great. Those engineered woods sure drink up the paint, don't they? You'll find your second coat will not take anywhere as much and will make the job look much better.
 
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The last series of photos show additional blocks under the front
Did it go out of level?

A little bit yes. The front blocks are at the lower portion of the grading. So when it rains, the back yard drains right past the front blocks to the side french drains. This probably caused the front to sink from the soft wet ground. I used my floor jack to lift & level it until I install the second block.
 
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Roof done. 3 bags of shingles & used every single one, nice!
You can see the dip on the rear of the shed from the deoformed 4th roof joist. Almost complete & ready to fill up with ****. Will probably finish it on Friday or Saturday & give my input to anybody new to this type of thing.
 

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Looks damn good for a first attempt (aside from the roof joist, but I bet your the only one looking at that roof close enough to notice).

What was the final cost? If you dont mind sharing.

I have 2 large Amish built storage buildings in addition to a 32x32 garage. Recently wanted a "small" building for the kids bikes and such, so they had their own space and could come and go without interrupting my "projects".

I ended up going with a SunCast Vinyl shed 7x7. The kit was $550.....had about another $200 in a base and ramp for a total of $750. I was NOT impressed with the build quality when I started.....but when I was done, I had a VERY different opinion and it ended up being sturdy. Took me about 7 hours start to finish to knock out.
 
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Looks damn good for a first attempt (aside from the roof joist, but I bet your the only one looking at that roof close enough to notice).

What was the final cost? If you dont mind sharing.

I have 2 large Amish built storage buildings in addition to a 32x32 garage. Recently wanted a "small" building for the kids bikes and such, so they had their own space and could come and go without interrupting my "projects".

I ended up going with a SunCast Vinyl shed 7x7. The kit was $550.....had about another $200 in a base and ramp for a total of $750. I was NOT impressed with the build quality when I started.....but when I was done, I had a VERY different opinion and it ended up being sturdy. Took me about 7 hours start to finish to knock out.
Thanks, it was a fun project with the kids "helping" sometimes. I did use scrap lumber from the builders around me; that probably only saved $100 in material. I also saved by buying the oops paint and tools from craigslist.

Probably 30 hours of work.
Foundation $120
2x4's $80
Walls, T1-11 and roof osb $290
Shingles & roof paper $100
Paint & trim $75
Misc, probably $100 in nails, screws, hinges...but I have tons left over.
Total : about $800.

Lots of great advise and encouragement on this forum & I really do appreciate everybody's help.
 

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Thats a damn good result for the money. Took some time......but gained loads of skill and knowledge. Seems like a win/win to me.
 
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