Have someone running gas line for heater in garage. Run new lines for now and stop gas line befor exit basement wall into garage. My garage and house has two feet between them. Was told need be flexable line for movement. Could not run solid black iron pipe thru wall. Can some one explain how this situation is done.
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HoosierBuddy
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What you are saying makes no sense to me.
Can you give more detail, or provide a diagram?
Phil
Can you give more detail, or provide a diagram?
Phil
HoosierBuddy
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If it was me that owned it or me that was plumbing it, I would much prefer using black steel pipe rather than flexible tubing. The claim that it needs to be flexible "because of movement" makes absolutely no sense to me. I think it's more likely that someone wants to use flexible pipe for the same reason that people normally want to use flexible pipe; because it's easier to do.
If it won't create a tripping hazard, I'd run it straight 3/4" pipe straight through the 2' into the garage. You should paint the pipe to keep it from rusting where it's going to be exposed and use a sleeve or wrap the pipe where it's going through the wall to add further protection.
The only place I am aware of that code requires a flexible hookup is when you connect gas service to a mobile home. There, you are supposed to use a special flexible connector to connect from the stationary gas source (the meter setting) to the mobile home's gas piping.
Personally, I think it's a stupid rule and it doesn't apply in this case anyway.
Phil
p.s. I was told the flexible line for mobile homes is because the home's can shift if there is a tornado. I'm posting 2 pictures below of a mobile home that "shifted" due to a tornado. You'll note that this person DID NOT use flexible piping to hook to the gas meter as shown in the second picture.
Do you think that made a difference in the outcome?
If it won't create a tripping hazard, I'd run it straight 3/4" pipe straight through the 2' into the garage. You should paint the pipe to keep it from rusting where it's going to be exposed and use a sleeve or wrap the pipe where it's going through the wall to add further protection.
The only place I am aware of that code requires a flexible hookup is when you connect gas service to a mobile home. There, you are supposed to use a special flexible connector to connect from the stationary gas source (the meter setting) to the mobile home's gas piping.
Personally, I think it's a stupid rule and it doesn't apply in this case anyway.
Phil
p.s. I was told the flexible line for mobile homes is because the home's can shift if there is a tornado. I'm posting 2 pictures below of a mobile home that "shifted" due to a tornado. You'll note that this person DID NOT use flexible piping to hook to the gas meter as shown in the second picture.
Do you think that made a difference in the outcome?
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comedyman809
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people should not live in mobile homes anyway!! especially in tornado ridden areas.
youd be safer under a tree during a tornado.
youd be safer under a tree during a tornado.
D.J.
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comedyman809:
Flying debris KILLS more people than anything in a tornado! I don't think your tree will stop much of that! Flooding occurring after kills also. So I guess you would recommend that the tree be on top of a hill also? That way Lightning can strike you and kill you next to your tree. All cannot be fortunate enough to have a stick built home and a storm shelter. Just ask the unfortunate souls family's, who lose their lives in tornado's every year.
Unless you are trying to be comedic and I really don't find all that funny!
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Flying debris KILLS more people than anything in a tornado! I don't think your tree will stop much of that! Flooding occurring after kills also. So I guess you would recommend that the tree be on top of a hill also? That way Lightning can strike you and kill you next to your tree. All cannot be fortunate enough to have a stick built home and a storm shelter. Just ask the unfortunate souls family's, who lose their lives in tornado's every year.
Unless you are trying to be comedic and I really don't find all that funny!
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D.J.
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cookster:
I can't recall NFPA pamphlet 58 requiring any flex between two buildings. Be sure to sleeve the pipe where it goes thru the walls on both buildings.
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I can't recall NFPA pamphlet 58 requiring any flex between two buildings. Be sure to sleeve the pipe where it goes thru the walls on both buildings.
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HoosierBuddy
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That was an F2 that caused one fatality. The occupants of the mobile home I show pictures of above were not at home at the time of the storm and were thus unharmed. The person who was killed was in a different mobile home (that I won't show pictures of out of respect for the dead). He was ejected from the mobile home when it rolled off its foundation and it landed on him and crushed him.
Phil
nate379
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Gas guy that came to my house wanted the flex line to come out of the ground and do a 90* then another 90* so in case the house settles it wouldn't pull the meter off the wall.
None of the older places are like that, actually they are all black pipe into the ground even.
I dug it back out and put it straight up and down. If my house moves to the point that the meter is pulling off the wall I think that will be the least of my worries!
None of the older places are like that, actually they are all black pipe into the ground even.
I dug it back out and put it straight up and down. If my house moves to the point that the meter is pulling off the wall I think that will be the least of my worries!
RedDirtRoad
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I agree with Hoosier..
but it has to be galvanized pipe. You cant use black iron pipe outdoors unless you paint it.
but it has to be galvanized pipe. You cant use black iron pipe outdoors unless you paint it.
larry4406
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RedDirtRoad - I believe galvanized pipe is a no-no with gas (flakes off, plugs orifices, etc). Stick with the black iron pipe and paint it. That is what the commerical plumbers in my area of Northern VA do. Here, gas piping is painted gray.
94cobra2615
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Yes just paint the black iron pipe that is going underground and let it dry. After it dries I always wrap it with black electrical tape OR wrap it in wax paper with grey coat under (grey creme that is used for anti corrosion)
I never use flex pipe. I dont trust the stuff.
I work for a very large natural gas supplier for my area.
Is your meter outside? If so, you have other options but more work involved.
I never use flex pipe. I dont trust the stuff.
I work for a very large natural gas supplier for my area.
Is your meter outside? If so, you have other options but more work involved.