Gas line pipe size help 1300ft

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Im looking to run a gas line to the house and garage. Meter will be at the road 1290 ft away. Was told that the main is a medium pressure and can supply at 2 psig. Specific gravity is 0.6. My load will be 200,000 btu's. I am looking at 1" cts. My charts stop at 300ft and the gas company said they cant reccomend do to liability. Pipe supplyer said the have no clue. 16" wc drop in caculation.

With some calculation i think im at 236 Cfh.

Hoping some one may know and confirm. Thanks

 

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hope this works:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/natural-gas-pipe-calculator-d_1042.html

 

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Where are you located ??

Now would be good time to Update GJ Profile with City/State/Country.

Here's a chart that goes up to 1500 ft:
http://www.gastite.com/technical-resources/sizing.html

Looks like 1" pipe at 2 psi for 1300 ft potential flow 277 cfh (cubic ft per hour). Be better to upsize for that distance IMHO. I'd go thick wall 1 1/2" if it were me. Do it once and do it right !!

Also I'm assuming you will be using continuous roll(s) of yellow plastic polyethylene . . . . right ??

You have proper riser and regulator to handle this once at house?? Most PE pipe for consumer use is IPS (iron pipe size) so make sure you have apples-to-apples for the pipe/riser.

Who will be connecting both ends (plus any splices in line)?? Contractor with fusing machine (ie melt the PE pipe together) or using Stablock connecters?? Surely gas company will need to sign off the connection on their end (at minimum). I'm guessing that meter will be near road so that all that length on your property is your risk of failure/leak . . . right??

Lots of prior threads in GJ about buried natural gas lines.
> > > > > Google > > > > > buried natural gas line site:garagejournal.com

 

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Alliance ohio
Yes I'll be getting three 500 foot rolls of PE pipe.The risers require stablocks at each end so I was gonna you stablocks to splice the PE pipe. I have a local company that can do the fusion if need be for a decent price but not cheaper than the stablocks.

The local gas company has to come out and inspect it once I get riser to rise are capped off and in the ground. This was a last-minute decision as I ran the trench for a cable line and figured hey why not.

I normally search that's why my post count is so low for my join date. As for my load I plan on 100,000 BTU fireplace 60,000 BTU heater in the garage and then the new garage will probably have a 40 to 60,000 BTU heater. Once that heaters in the new garage I will probably stop hating the first garage, so i think im over sizes now some.
My house currently has geothermal heating and it is really efficient and I'd rather not switch back to gas for that.
I found that calculator you posted that's where I got the results that I did.

Thank you all for what you have posted I will do a little more research and atleast i didnt get a "hes off his rocker if he thinks that will work." Lol

Edit: its amazing how differnt the charts from each other, the posted one specs in the caculator are different and then the chart that the gas co supplyed is way lower, i know pipe type make a difference but 1" vs .980" sould be close still.