Rader Rods
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Need to run some propane lines for the stove/oven and a gas dryer. What are my options now?
Gas lines?
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HoosierBuddy
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Rader Rods said:
Most people use coppe with compression couplings for propane.
If you think there's a chance that you might get natural gas at your location someday, I'd recommend using black iron (maleable iron) instead, because it works well with propane or natural gas. It's just harder to install because of the threads.
You probably know this...but let me just point it out anyway...normal threaded pipe must be put together with pipe dope or teflon tape (of the two pipe dope is easier to use) and compression couplings DO NOT use any pipe dope or teflon tape.
A solution of dish soap and water brushed onto your connections can be used to check for leaks.
Good Luck!
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Rader Rods
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No chance of natural gas, I am way out in the boonies. I wanted to know if anyone has used plastic, and what are the results? The feed from the tank to the shop will be black iron, just wondered what my options were once inside the shop.
HoosierBuddy
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Rader Rods said:
Sorry...thought you said plastic?
No. Don't even think about it. Block that from your mind forever and ever and ever. Plastic can't be used above ground for gas. Plastic can't be used inside for gas. Disaster waiting to happen.
You should call a professional plumber and have them do it. Propane can be extremely dangerous. Much more so even than natural gas, because it's heavier than air and a leak will cause gas to pool dangerously in basements, crawl spaces, or other low areas...setting up a potential for a huge explosion. Ever see a fuel air bomb? Get a plumber.
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Rader Rods
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Yep...back to the black pipe, what I saw being used in a local build was plastic, but it was CSST, plastic covered stainless steel. After some research no way I will use it. Please disregard this post....it will self destruct in 20 seconds, as would my shop if I used this stuff. 
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Rader Rods
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Rader Rods said:Yep...back to the black pipe, what I saw being used in a local build was plastic, but it was CSST, plastic covered stainless steel. After some research no way I will use it. Please disregard this post....it will self destruct in 20 seconds, as would my shop if I used this stuff.
the intimidator
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umm I would just do the black iron throughout. with the price of copper nowadays It would be worth it to spend a few hours threading the pipe plus you can buy a new tool to add to you're collection 
cc_rider
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Black iron all the way. Pipe dope is indeed the best stuff, either the old-fashioned tan kind or the chi-chi new white Teflon-filled stuff. There IS Teflon tape suitable for gas service, it is color-coded, yellow I think. But why bother? Pipe dope is more reliable. I've spent far too much time chasing leaks due to teflon tape. This was on air lines so it wasn't particularly dangerous, and the pressure was a lot higher than NG or LG, but still it was a royal PITA.
Contrary to 'The Graduate', the right answer is NOT 'Plastics'. No way, no how, fuggedaboudit.
c.
Contrary to 'The Graduate', the right answer is NOT 'Plastics'. No way, no how, fuggedaboudit.
c.
oldgoat
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Actually I've been told not to use teflon tape on gas fittings because if you get a piece of tape to come loose inside the line it can go to the valve and cause trouble. I only use pipe dope on gas lines and leave the tape for the air lines.
Spridle
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OK, your putting black pipe outside of the building but wanted to run something else inside? Are you going to bury the pipe outside? If so I would strogly suggest plastic for underground. Get some normac fittings. and dig your *** of. Dont forget to run a wire along with the tube though. Itll be easier to find with a locator later. It is possible to run the steel outside but you should wrap it. and make sure its totally sealed. Or you may be putting all your money, well, into the dirt.
trainer
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Do a google search on "CSST gas line"
Although black Iron is still used, corrugated stainless steel is pretty much the standard for interior installations now.
Although black Iron is still used, corrugated stainless steel is pretty much the standard for interior installations now.
Spridle
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The CSST isn't used very much in the Chicagoland area. I've used it some, mostly for temporary hook-up. I liked it. It was a lot nicer than being covered in oil.
Ron Lombardo
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Re: Corrigated Stainless Steel Tubing
TRACPIPE is great stuff .. I just sat in the training today .. look it up I recommend it highly. I just finished a 100 room dormitory in NY and its a big labor savings ... but the price of materials is 3 times more.
TRACPIPE is the best on the market .. they perfected the CSST. The black jacket is for direct bury ... they demonstrated TRACPIPE by driving aforlift over it and you cant crush it. We installed 600 feet of it and had 3 minor leaks after air testing.
TRACPIPE is great stuff .. I just sat in the training today .. look it up I recommend it highly. I just finished a 100 room dormitory in NY and its a big labor savings ... but the price of materials is 3 times more.
TRACPIPE is the best on the market .. they perfected the CSST. The black jacket is for direct bury ... they demonstrated TRACPIPE by driving aforlift over it and you cant crush it. We installed 600 feet of it and had 3 minor leaks after air testing.
Spridle
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Does anyone know if you can bury CSST?