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Everett

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:) I have a 1995 ford ******, 1.9 4 cyl-auto, power everything, and i'm gonna say i'm sorry for bad spelling and grammer, so bear with me, anyway, i noticed this in the last 2 years i owned this car, i drive the same , wether be summer-winter-fall-ect, in the summer i fill up on sunday, drive all week too work, 14 miles round trip ,at the speed limit of 35 or whats posted , i drive no different then say winter time, but yet i can only make it about half way thru the week,in the winter time, are they putting junk in the gas too make it burn faster or am i just whacko, i never let the car warm up in winter , i just get and go , like i always do, :thumbup:
 
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adam728

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Here's a list from another web site that sums it up pretty well. All these things may seem insignificant, but they add up in the end.

Also, I've noticed 3-5% poorer fuel economy when winter gas comes along. I used to track my mileage like crazy.

9 reasons your winter fuel economy bites

1. More idling

This should be a no-brainer, yet parked idling cars are a common sight in cold weather. Resist the temptation to idle your car to warm it up. An idling engine gets 0 mpg. Consider also that idling the engine does nothing to warm up the tires and drivetrain.

Even in the coldest weather, you can begin driving after 30 seconds from a cold start - keep speeds low/moderate and use gentle acceleration until the temperature gauge starts to climb (source).

2. Low tire pressure

Of course you're smart enough to keep up your tire pressure as the temperature drops, right? A 10-degree (F) change in ambient temperature equates to a 1 psi change in tire pressure (source). Fuel economy declines 0.4 percent for every 1 psi drop (source).

3. Increased rolling resistance

Even if you're completely attentive to proper tire pressure, cold ambient temperatures will still cause your tires to return worse mileage. That's because a tire's shape isn't completely round - the sidewall bulges out at the bottom, and where the tread meets the road the small contact patch is actually flat. As the tire rotates, it constantly deforms to this shape, and this deformation requires more energy when the rubber is cold and hard. Rolling resistance at 0 degrees F is 20% greater than at 80 degrees (source 1, source 2).

4. Crappy road conditions

It's increased rolling resistance of another kind: driving through slush and snow. And then there's its wasteful polar (no pun intended) opposite: no friction at all! (A.K.A. wheelspin on ice.)

5. Lower average engine temperature

In the winter, an engine takes longer to reach operating temperature and cools off faster when shut off. Since the engine management system orders up a richer mixture when cold (proportionately more fuel in the air/fuel combination), more fuel is being burned overall.

A block heater can offset this problem (improving fuel economy by 10% in sub-zero conditions - source), as can garage parking, and combining trips (to minimize the number of cold/hot cycles).

Also related...

6. Higher average lubricant viscosity

Engine oil thickens as it cools. So does transmission and differential fluids and even bearing grease. Significantly more energy is needed to overcome the added drag these cold lubricants cause.

Using synthetic fluids can address this problem, since their viscosity changes less at extreme temperatures than traditional mineral fluids.

7. Weaker gasoline

Gasoline doesn't vaporize readily at very cold temperatures. So oil companies formulate fuel differently for cold-weather markets in the winter. Unfortunately, the changes that provide better cold vaporization characteristics also result in less available energy for combustion. You won't get as far on a liter of winter gas as you will on a liter of summer gas. (Source.)

8. Higher electrical loads

In colder temps, you use electrical accessories more often:

- lights (in higher lattitudes it's darker in the winter)
- rear window defroster (because it's easier than using the ice scraper, right?)
- heater blower motor (I don't have a/c, so this isn't balanced out during warm conditions); heated seats/mirrors
- windshield washer pump (because it's easier than using the ice scraper, right? And for frequently cleaning off dirty road spray.)

9. More aerodynamic drag

No, I'm not referring to the layer of snow you're too lazy to brush off the top of the car (though that would hurt mpg too).

A vehicle’s aerodynamic drag is proportional to air density, and the density increases as temperature drops. For every 10 degree F drop in temperature, aerodynamic drag increases by 2% (source).
 

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At Christmas time, we drove from western NY to NYC to visit our daughter then on to Atlanta, GA to visit family. By the time we got home we had driven about 2500 miles. My wife's 2001 Buick LeSabre averaged 28.4 MPG for the entire trip, including driving in NYC. I am happy with that, considering that it is a real full sized car loaded with options and a big trunk full of my wife's ****. I drive it like a rental car and it takes it in stride.
 
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CO535i

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loss of economy is associated with the supposed "winter blends" that the gas companies use. The added alcohol does nothing for fuel economy.

Good way to test this is to look for a gas station that does not add ethanol:

http://www.buyrealgas.com/

Then run one tank of gas record your milage then run one tank of 10% record that and find the difference. Or wait till the summer and watch the same change. I figure it, the difference, wont be as significant as with the real gas because in the summer they still add ethanol. Just reporting what I have noticed in my dealings with the same type of issue.
 

Pumafeet10

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You said u drive the same , but I will say that regular driving habits maybe compounded by the winter blend.

But as a hypermiler myself getting an avg of 59 mpg in a Honda civic, follow the list of things mentioned earlier, also make sure u don't let the rpms go above 2500 and if the trans won't let u shift there try to get as close to that as u can, most four cylinder engines have a bsfc well below 3000 rpms.

Also try and get any unneeded weight out of the car.

Switching to synthetic will help with lower friction, and will last longer in your engine.

Also go to www.cleanmpg.com and ecomodder.com for good sites on getting good gas mileage and being frugal with your transportation needs
 
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