gas stove install

[that-guy]

this seemed like the only logical place to put this

I just bought a house built in the 50's that had a propane range in it from the 70's or 80's. so I took that out and replaced it, however the entire propane run is copper piping and I want to upgrade it. my last house (only 8 years old) has CSST all over since the entire house was run off of propane. so I have decided to use this

my question is, can I use CSST from the tank all the way to the stove? i know i can use it throughout the house, but what about from the house to the tank?

i keep on reading that i need to bond and ground the CSST, but how do you typically do this? TIA

 

[bobbyu]

I don't think you can use CSST outside. I have NG and it is steel pipe into the house then CSST the rest of the way. Not sure about bonding. I can not see anywhere they did that on mine.

 

[that-guy]

I don't think you can use CSST outside. I have NG and it is steel pipe into the house then CSST the rest of the way. Not sure about bonding. I can not see anywhere they did that on mine.

I had also read that about not using it outside. I would like to get more information on what is acceptable for outside...

I found the clamp for grounding the CSST, so that is no longer a question

 

[that-guy]

still unsure what to use outside at the tank to go into the basement. looking at what the original owner did, they used a single piece of copper tubing from the tank all the way to the stove (about 15' run)

 

[zmaxmotorsports]

People have been using copper for gas/propane lines for years,I prefer it to trac pipe myself if its done right.

 

[that-guy]

can I run black iron outside?

 

[zmaxmotorsports]

You can run it above ground.

 

[that-guy]

okay, so black iron from the tank to just inside of the wall into the basement, then CSST from there to the stove???

 

[zmaxmotorsports]

As long as its above ground between tank and house.Make sure to bond your trac pipe to the water service at some point.

 

[big.jim]

why do you need to "upgrade "the existing copper?

 

[that-guy]

why do you need to "upgrade "the existing copper?

because copper is no longer code in my area, and it makes serviceability a challenge when pulling the stove from the wall...causing the copper line to kink and possibly break

 

[that-guy]

As long as its above ground between tank and house.Make sure to bond your trac pipe to the water service at some point.

why bond it to service water?

 

[Tyberius]

why bond it to service water?

I'm guessing because someone may mistake it for water (and use it for a ground)

 

[zmaxmotorsports]

If you get a lightning strike near by it will go through the trac pipe/csst and burn pin holes in the grooves in the trac pipe,bonding it to the water service gives it an easier/safer path to ground.

 

[big.jim]

do you not have a disconnectable flex from the wall to the cooker

 

[that-guy]

do you not have a disconnectable flex from the wall to the cooker

no, whoever did the install did copper line from the tank all the way to the cooker. this is a 50's built house, and looking at the age of the stove, it was probably installed in the 80's

 

[that-guy]

If you get a lightning strike near by it will go through the trac pipe/csst and burn pin holes in the grooves in the trac pipe,bonding it to the water service gives it an easier/safer path to ground.

I know I need to bond it to something in the case of a lightening strike, just wasn't sure why you specifically said to the water source

 

[zmaxmotorsports]

That's the easiest place to bond it as long as your water service is copper or steel/lead.

 

[brewchief]

CSST cannot be run directly to the stove, it needs to be terminated either below the floor and brought up with a ****** or terminated at the floor/wall with a termination fitting, at that point a valve should be installed and then a listed flex connector used to connect to the appliance.

CSST looks the same as a flex connector but it is annealed differently and is not designed for repeated flexing.