Gate Mounting Question

[Tunafromlaguna]

Hello good people of Garage Journal:

I have a question about a gate I am planning on building in an area between the exterior garage wall and an adjacent bedroom wall in my backyard. Specifically, I want to pick your brains on how to mount the gate both to the ground and to the adjacent walls. I would like most of the stress from the opening and closing of the door to be directed to the ground rather than the walls. I am planning on welding some "dog ears" to two or three parts on the right and left of the structure to which I will mount to the exterior walls.

My main concern is how I should go about anchoring the three posts (from the drawing) to the ground as the area I am working in is covered with brick. Should I anchor it via a pad with anchor bolts to individual bricks, or should I remove the bricks in question and bury the posts in the ground? Would it be possible to drill and core through the bricks and insert a rod that the square tube can slide over? I want this to look as clean as possible.

I am attaching a couple of pictures of the work area and the general concept of what I want to build. In general I am planning on using 1 1/4" by 1/8" square tube for the outer frame. The verticals will be 1/2" square tube.

Thanks in advance for any input you guys may have.

 

[Tunafromlaguna]

P.S. The drawing above is not to scale. I drew it on Microsoft Excel of all things...

 

[Nursepeter1973]

I'd definately remove some bricks and secure the whole gate or a post that gets slid over with concrete. You can use a diamond blade to cut the bricks to shape to fit around the post and if you set it just right you probably wont even notice it as it will only affect one brick once its relaid.

If you don't I can see the anchor bolts in the ground coming loose and then the whole gate will rattle and make a huge noise over time... over engineer it.. saves you needing to fix it in the future

 

[ez-duzit]

Forget the ground. Lag it to the walls at a stud.

 

[Tunafromlaguna]

The problem is I want it flush with the edge of the garage and where the step starts. There isn't a stud to bolt it too as seen from the garage.


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[BD1]

I would build it so the gate hinges are on the garage side and it opens against garage wall. Through bolting into the garage wall would be my choice.
All the weight would then be on the garage wall. The bedroom room side could be toggled in and a small angle clip on the floor.

 

[Tunafromlaguna]

The studs in the garage don't exactly line up with where the gate will go. Moving it back to will expose too much brick and it would look weird. If I installed in on the concrete just below the step then the anchor point would be easier. I would drill and bolt it to the concrete with some wall supports. The problem then is that there is a step just past my gate which is a tripping hazard.


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[BD1]

Ok, I looked closer, it's too close to the corner. What if you welded flat stock like 1/4''x3'' 90 degrees to the upright at a length where you could through bolt it into garage ? So the gate would be flush with the bottom brick and the flat stock maybe 8'' long to stay away from corner.
I would think you could even lag screw to the corner of garage as stated. There should be a double stud in the corner.

 

[Zeke]

Hello good people of Garage Journal:

I have a question about a gate I am planning on building in an area between the exterior garage wall and an adjacent bedroom wall in my backyard. Specifically, I want to pick your brains on how to mount the gate both to the ground and to the adjacent walls. I would like most of the stress from the opening and closing of the door to be directed to the ground rather than the walls. I am planning on welding some "dog ears" to two or three parts on the right and left of the structure to which I will mount to the exterior walls.

My main concern is how I should go about anchoring the three posts (from the drawing) to the ground as the area I am working in is covered with brick. Should I anchor it via a pad with anchor bolts to individual bricks, or should I remove the bricks in question and bury the posts in the ground? Would it be possible to drill and core through the bricks and insert a rod that the square tube can slide over? I want this to look as clean as possible.

I am attaching a couple of pictures of the work area and the general concept of what I want to build. In general I am planning on using 1 1/4" by 1/8" square tube for the outer frame. The verticals will be 1/2" square tube.

Thanks in advance for any input you guys may have.

The way I see it is that you have that all handled with the transom. Don't focus so much on the bricks, just lag it for stability so when the weight of the gate in the open position doesn't sag. The bigger the anchoring plate and wide spread the anchor holes, the better. If you can run a lip over the edge and lag in horizontal, better. A pro with a coring machine would make a 2 to 3" hole and fill with fast set.
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Anyway you do it, the hinge post must be anchored.

 

[ez-duzit]

There is no need to through-bolt anything. Make the mounting flange wide enough to get lag bolts into the corner post. Use as many bolts as necessary.

 

[Tunafromlaguna]

I agree with both of you. The corner of the garage is double studded but it doesn't line up quite right to where I can bolt directly to those unless I take flat stock and bend as mentioned. I feel like coring and then setting in quick set is the best option as it would give the posts rigidity when the door is open and closed the energy is transfered to the ground instead of shaking the garage and bedroom.

Thanks for your suggestions.


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