Gear wrench double x

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

Hey guys. I watched a review a short while ago on these double x pliers but they didn't show a comparison between the widths of standard pliers to the double x. I bought a pair of hose pliers in 1/2" just to see how they work and if I'll want the other two sizes eventually. I figured most of what I run into these would cover. While I was out in the garage tonight I got curious and compared them to the new set of sunex pliers I bought. Here's what I found. Same plier widths at the jaws, look at the handle width difference.

 

[T45]

This is a good illustration of the benefit of the design. As the pic clearly shows, you will run into obstruction issues or require 2 handed operation at much more than a moderate opening.

1-handed operation is probably a bigger selling point than wide jaw capacity, tho.

 

[gdocktor3]

Do you guys think the double X pliers grip as hard as single joint pliers? I'm thinking no because of the extra joint. You lose some leverage, no? All my long pliers are gw/crescent double X, so I can't compare to a single joint pair like the Sunex. With all that said, I've screwed around with the long pliers at HF and they had a lot of flex in the handles. Reason I never bought any. I feel like that flexibility also affects the gripping ability.

Why is gripping power so important? I have a friend (actual mechanic) who was yanking on something with a pair of needle nose pliers while working on a vehicle. He was pulling so hard, toward his face, the pliers slipped off and stabbed himself in the eye. While he didn't lose the eye, it was a very serious injury. While this is a one in a million accident, it's always stuck in my mind and I'm sure to never put myself in a position like that.

 

[adamgayton81]

We used double X jointed pliers in aviation due to the need of leverage and tight spaces...like these:

I still have them and love them and use them frequently on auto work. They do have the same gripping power as regular pliers.

Sears has them as well as other stores

http://m.sears.com/crescent-double-...5UFJ_L7tjI4TbRaJmFkNMaArUl8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds


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[Ign]

Before he was banned wild cowboy claimed on more than one occasion he pulled a car across a parking lot w them. He seemed to be of the impression they had more gripping power.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268057

Me, I really can't say. Only used mine a couple times for stuff that didn't require a ton of gripping force.

 

[Loscaldazar]

They have less gripping power in my experience, but that just meant I squeezed harder

 

[T45]

Before he was banned wild cowboy claimed on more than one occasion he pulled a car across a parking lot w them. He seemed to be of the impression they had more gripping power. .

He updated his post to clarify it was a compound long nose, not a double X long nose

Apex Tool Group PS6549C Long Nose Pliers, 9-Inch
https://www.amazon.com/Apex-Tool-Group-PS6549C-Pliers/dp/B000MGKOYO

 

[WVBrady]

They have less gripping power in my experience, but that just meant I squeezed harder

They have less gripping power. The grip is the ratio of the distance your hand squeezes to the travel of the jaws. For the same travel of the jaws, your hand doesn't move as much.

 

[JettaGetUpandGo]

I have the straight and curved pliers version of these. Honestly, they've been sitting in my toolbox for 3-4 years. I can count on one hand how many times I have used them. 99% of the time a standard pliers in a standard length works for me. That being said, the few times I have needed them, I do not know what else I could have used in those situations.

I seem to remember paying between $40 and $60 for the set. Sears has the Crescent branded version for $18.99 right now if you're looking to expand your set: http://www.sears.com/crescent-doubl...150327xVigLink&aff=Y&PID=6147012&AID=11042411