VegasBruce
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Above 1200 Sq/FT Gearbanger's Shop Project
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
Outlander
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By all means keep posting. I'm stealing your ideas as fast as you think them up.
Somebody steals your car and it is gone.....somebody steals your ideas and they pop up in garages across the world
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Gearbanger
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Wish I were in your state this weekend. The NMCA is racing in Bowling Green. One of my favorite tracks!
Jeff
tinbender 66
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Hey Gearbanger, If you go with diamond plate outlet covers the ones from Lowe's are the nicest ones I've found. They have a black edge trim while all the others are just dp. The switch and duplex ones are a bout $6 apiece. I don't remember what the triple switch one cost. If you need quad outlet covers you have to order them (at least at my local Lowe's) and they are around $10. I still need a lot more, I just buy a couple at a time.
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Gearbanger
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Theo, most of this fence wood is fairly crusty and crud covered. No way I'd want it in my shop unwashed.
Johns57
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Just ran across this and must say that it looks fantastic. One word of caution. Had a coworker use old wood to built a rustic floor in his basement and seven years later his house was full of beetles. Apparently there is a beetle that lays its eggs in old wood and they lie dormant for seven years. You might want to research it just in case.
graffix000
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that looks great! Good idea and the price is right!!
1991Syclone
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Looking great so far. Please, do keep posting pics.
edl
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could you please post more pictures of your workbench and describe how you made the legs and how the top is affixed to the base? - thanks!
It's coming along nicely, keep up the good work.
If you want a modern look to it, use a dye on the wood then a water base satin varnish.. Your wall looks awesome, excellent work.. I like it natural, but you have a racing theme going, and you race guys like it bright and looking like candy..!
Here are some color ideas on the analine dyes..
http://www.google.com/search?q=anil...&ei=eHFETumAN67ZiALW3rHVAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCgQsAQ
Here are some color ideas on the analine dyes..
http://www.google.com/search?q=anil...&ei=eHFETumAN67ZiALW3rHVAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCgQsAQ
Will67
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Gearbanger
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The shop is turning in to a termite's *********, but I never thought about bettles! Thanks!
could you please post more pictures of your workbench and describe how you made the legs and how the top is affixed to the base? - thanks!
I didn't make the legs, they were throw aways that we salvaged, cleaned up, and painted. I'll take more detailed pics this weekend.
That's a cool looking effect (affect?). I really like the natural look though.
Yes! Always looking for a better way to do this. It's quickly becoming my least favorite part of this project.
I'm out of clean wood so it's back on nail pulling detail this weekend. dittle fart around
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The legs look like the old classic workbenches from the shipyard I worked at. Real popular for industrial look office furniture.could you please post more pictures of your workbench and describe how you made the legs and how the top is affixed to the base? - thanks!
View media item 10979You can buy the legs separately or a whole workbench. Check them out.
mikeytint
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Any updates or new pictures? this looks great and would love to keep seeing progress
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Gearbanger
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Been very busy with work, travel, etc.
We've broken down a bunch of new wood, riped it to size, and installed a small amount. Hope to hit it hard this weekend and will post up a few new pics then.
Thanks for following along!
We've broken down a bunch of new wood, riped it to size, and installed a small amount. Hope to hit it hard this weekend and will post up a few new pics then.
Thanks for following along!
BenDaPirate
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Looks amazing!! Love it!
Trey T
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awesome
Reverend Bow
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Wow.. That looks incredible....
Outstanding work
Outstanding work
green.bubbly
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Outstanding look!
So much so, I am considering doing something like that in my house. Put up a layer of sheetrock and cover some of the walls with fence boards. Yes, I like it that much.
The only thing I would put on those boards would be some very watered down white stain just enough to lighten it up a little.
So much so, I am considering doing something like that in my house. Put up a layer of sheetrock and cover some of the walls with fence boards. Yes, I like it that much.
The only thing I would put on those boards would be some very watered down white stain just enough to lighten it up a little.
bad_idea
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i had a set of the same legs given to me couple years back. sturdy. made by lyon. nice looking wall treatment btw. i wouldnt have the gonads to tackle that, but it is looking good. i would be afraid of possible drawbacks/ arising issues.
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Gearbanger
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Here are a few more pics of the bench. We built it out of 2x4s, pulled them together with all-thread. It still wasn't smooth enough so we took a planer to it. Quite a learning curve there, a few divots here and there, but it turned out nice. Painted the legs bright red, attached the top with lag bolts, and went way overboard with carriage bolts. Keep meaning to go back and trim the outside edge with 1x to cover the all-thread holes. One of these days.
We've used the hell out of it!
We've used the hell out of it!
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Gearbanger
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Finished up this wall.
On to the 40' wall!
Thanks for all the comments!
On to the 40' wall!
Thanks for all the comments!
e30bradley
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I think it looks awesome how it is. If I where you I wouldn't paint it. But anyway, nice job using whats available.
On a side note, are you racing this year Jeff ? By chance are you coming to the NMRA race at National trails next weekend ?
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Gearbanger
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Hey Eric, no racing for us this year.
I will be at the US Nats for a few days hanging with friends and getting a little racing fix.
K'ledgeBldr
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Gearbanger- Though I admire your recycle/re-use and decor selection, I'd hate to see you have to take it all down because of a lack of sound judgement.
First, even though the structure is not attached to a dwelling- almost all convening authorities/C.A. (building departments) have stipulations for these type structures. Fire retardancy being number one. As previously stated, there are fire retardant chemicals that can be added to the wood to help and/or almost eliminate ignition. However, the planks are not air tight. Which leads to two failures- one: the kraftpaper that backs the insulation is still susceptible to fire from spark(s). Two: your insulation batts are nothing more than air filters for the wall. F/glass batt insulation works best when in a total air impermeable space.
I would also think that your H/O insurance policy would probably not cover the claim if the garage went up in flames.
I know you have emphatically stated that doing d/wall yourself was totally out of the question but, considering what your end result is being I don't understand your logic. All you had to do was hang drywall (preferably 5/8 fire rated), tape and bed. Nothing fancy- no sanding, skimming, floating, etc. Why, because you're covering it with the recycled wood.
Just my take on what I would consider a "safe build". And of course a conversation with the C.A. should have been in order about their requirements.
I know your project has been the envy of several people people here @ GJ- I just hope that others heed the possible ramifications of such an endeavour.
First, even though the structure is not attached to a dwelling- almost all convening authorities/C.A. (building departments) have stipulations for these type structures. Fire retardancy being number one. As previously stated, there are fire retardant chemicals that can be added to the wood to help and/or almost eliminate ignition. However, the planks are not air tight. Which leads to two failures- one: the kraftpaper that backs the insulation is still susceptible to fire from spark(s). Two: your insulation batts are nothing more than air filters for the wall. F/glass batt insulation works best when in a total air impermeable space.
I would also think that your H/O insurance policy would probably not cover the claim if the garage went up in flames.
I know you have emphatically stated that doing d/wall yourself was totally out of the question but, considering what your end result is being I don't understand your logic. All you had to do was hang drywall (preferably 5/8 fire rated), tape and bed. Nothing fancy- no sanding, skimming, floating, etc. Why, because you're covering it with the recycled wood.
Just my take on what I would consider a "safe build". And of course a conversation with the C.A. should have been in order about their requirements.
I know your project has been the envy of several people people here @ GJ- I just hope that others heed the possible ramifications of such an endeavour.
Orange65
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I like the finished product. Looks great.
With respect to K'ledgeBldr's remarks:
Depending on where you are located, building requirements may be a non issue. Here in the south in most counties, there are no building requirements. With all modifications, local building requirements should be observed. I have never seen or heard of any regarding interior finishing- but I am not an expert. As for flame retardancy, I agree with the comment about the potential burning capabilities of the backing of the insulation. But then again, the paper covering on sheetrock will burn too. I wonder if there is a brush on flame retardant that you could use. But then again- if you were truly worried about flame proofing, you would have built a steel building.
All in all, I like the looks. I would do it in a second.
With respect to K'ledgeBldr's remarks:
Depending on where you are located, building requirements may be a non issue. Here in the south in most counties, there are no building requirements. With all modifications, local building requirements should be observed. I have never seen or heard of any regarding interior finishing- but I am not an expert. As for flame retardancy, I agree with the comment about the potential burning capabilities of the backing of the insulation. But then again, the paper covering on sheetrock will burn too. I wonder if there is a brush on flame retardant that you could use. But then again- if you were truly worried about flame proofing, you would have built a steel building.
All in all, I like the looks. I would do it in a second.
I LOVE that!
I'm going to do it in my basement.
As for the flame-retardant debate, here's the thing:
If he DID put sheetrock behind it, he's got a couple thousand square feet of dry wood nailed to the face of it. The sheetrock isn't going to stop that from burning. There's no two ways around that. If something catches that wood on fire, the entire interior of that shop will go up.
That said, this is pretty much the case with homes nowadays anyway. My father was a volunteer fireman for years and still keeps up with it. He just told me that it used to be they had 10-15 minutes to get to a house before it was fully involved.
Now they have half that because of all the synthetics in the carpet, drapes and furniture coverings.
It used to be that if there was a house fire, they fire department was able to contain it to certain areas of the house. When is the last time you saw a housefire that didn't leave a couple walls and the foundation?
Sorry to hijack...
it was my long-winded way of saying "The walls look absolutely fantastic, I'll be copying that for my basement, and don't worry about the fire bugs."
-Brad
I'm going to do it in my basement.
As for the flame-retardant debate, here's the thing:
If he DID put sheetrock behind it, he's got a couple thousand square feet of dry wood nailed to the face of it. The sheetrock isn't going to stop that from burning. There's no two ways around that. If something catches that wood on fire, the entire interior of that shop will go up.
That said, this is pretty much the case with homes nowadays anyway. My father was a volunteer fireman for years and still keeps up with it. He just told me that it used to be they had 10-15 minutes to get to a house before it was fully involved.
Now they have half that because of all the synthetics in the carpet, drapes and furniture coverings.
It used to be that if there was a house fire, they fire department was able to contain it to certain areas of the house. When is the last time you saw a housefire that didn't leave a couple walls and the foundation?
Sorry to hijack...
it was my long-winded way of saying "The walls look absolutely fantastic, I'll be copying that for my basement, and don't worry about the fire bugs."
-Brad
tinbender 66
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X2..........I've already collected my first batch of boards and have more coming this week. My welding/grinding area will be well protected. Thanks for the idea gearbanger! You will get credit for everything I post. Sometimes you have to accept a little risk to get what you want.
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Gearbanger
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Got very little accomplished this past weekend. Decluttered the back 40' wall. These last 2 walls (40' and 36') are going to be a lot of work!
We thought we had much more of the painted wood prepared then we actually did. That will slow things down a bit as the Boss wants to paint everything before I install it. Which makes sense because it is a lot easier this way.
So this is all I got done this weekend
I ordered a sample size of Flamex early last week. Hopefully it will be here this week and I can test it's effectiveness. I'll be sure to pass along the results.
I'm not going to get into an Internet debate about this project. I hope anyone that decides to do something similar does their own planning and does realize that this method obviously won't be as safe as using drywall. Proceed at your own risk!
We thought we had much more of the painted wood prepared then we actually did. That will slow things down a bit as the Boss wants to paint everything before I install it. Which makes sense because it is a lot easier this way.
So this is all I got done this weekend
I ordered a sample size of Flamex early last week. Hopefully it will be here this week and I can test it's effectiveness. I'll be sure to pass along the results.
I'm not going to get into an Internet debate about this project. I hope anyone that decides to do something similar does their own planning and does realize that this method obviously won't be as safe as using drywall. Proceed at your own risk!
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Gearbanger
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We're going to use some type of metal roofing product. Looked at several different options at Lowes. That's a long way down the road for us though.
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Gearbanger
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I've been out of pocket for the last 2 weeks so nothing has been done in the shop.
I did get to do a fire test and frankly with or without the Flamex treatment I could not get the wood to catch fire and stay lit using a propane torch. Not a testament that this is totally safe by any means, YMMV. I'm full steam ahead and won't be using the Flamex on this project.
I did get to do a fire test and frankly with or without the Flamex treatment I could not get the wood to catch fire and stay lit using a propane torch. Not a testament that this is totally safe by any means, YMMV. I'm full steam ahead and won't be using the Flamex on this project.
dozerguy
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That wood siding looks great! I am doing a similar project to the interior of my 50x40 garage, but using old barn siding. Was wondering how you were finishing the ceiling? I was thinking about using steel.
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Gearbanger
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Haven't picked anything specific out yet, but either some type of steel or vinyl product.
We haven't done much of anything lately on this. Too many other things going on lately. Hopefully we can get started back up soon!
I really like this idea! It looks great. I would go with red/black on the doors and trim. You know, if you stained those concrete floors a reddish brown that would look really cool. My garage is already sheetrocked but you did give me an idea for something else. I've been planning to build a deck/dog houses for my two dogs. I thought about using Trex....too expensive. I was leaning towards regular lumber also but now I'm thinking I could build the whole thing (with the exception of the shingles) out of old fencing materials. That cost point will sit real well with my accountant (wife).
Steve
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