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Generic Batteries
- Thread starter will335i
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I bought a couple made in China off Ebay for my Milwaukee 14.4, the lasted pretty damn good for what they cost. I think they were $50 for both and they lasted almost two years. I've had very good luck with Battery Pack Rebuilders out of Washington if you want to go that route.
nadogail
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I once, more than20 years ago, bought a generic replacement for the long 9.6 volt Makita, I served me well, until the drill died from mechanical failure.
rice rocket
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There's some really bad generic Li-ion batteries out there, that don't meet the output requirements for some medium/heavier duty cordless tools, so expect not only less than rated battery life but also tool performance.
NiMH and NiCd never had these issues b/c the tools weren't really pushing the limits of the battery, and the rated output was much higher in general.
NiMH and NiCd never had these issues b/c the tools weren't really pushing the limits of the battery, and the rated output was much higher in general.
joshmodelskidoo
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With camera batteries the oem are the best. Ebay ones were horrible. Batteries plus duracel works pretty good but not oem quality
Crazyjake8493
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I don't have any myself, but from what I've heard from others it's hit or miss. My thought is why spend money on good tools and then put cheap batteries in them? Might as well just buy cheap tools.
seber
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I don't know about others but Milwaukee batteries have a pretty special circuit board. I wouldn't trust a generic for that reason. But you could always replace the board on a generic with the real thing from a dead battery.
lolaetype
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With camera batteries the oem are the best.
Amen to that.
I don't know about others but Milwaukee batteries have a pretty special circuit board. I wouldn't trust a generic for that reason. But you could always replace the board on a generic with the real thing from a dead battery.
Is there somewhere I can verify this? Is it true for M18 and M12?
warren.albert.77
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Project Farm did a review of this. Check it out.
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DFB
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Power Axis Ni Cad for both my Makita drills 18v 12v, and 6.5" circ saw 18v
No problems...
No problems...
Paul_The_Builder
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I've bought 4 knockoff Makita batteries, and all 4 failed in a year, so I definitely wasn't impressed with them, but many people have said they had good results, so I guess it just depends.
What is definitely true is that the AH ratings on knockoffs are always VERY optimistic. Plenty of videos on youtube of people testing the capacities of knock-off batteries vs. OEM, and usually the knock-off batteries are half to 2/3 of their rated capacity, so take that into consideration.
If I were to buy knock-offs, I would find a seller which specifies that they use name brand li-ion cells (Samsung, LG, Panasonic, etc).
What is definitely true is that the AH ratings on knockoffs are always VERY optimistic. Plenty of videos on youtube of people testing the capacities of knock-off batteries vs. OEM, and usually the knock-off batteries are half to 2/3 of their rated capacity, so take that into consideration.
If I were to buy knock-offs, I would find a seller which specifies that they use name brand li-ion cells (Samsung, LG, Panasonic, etc).
If I were to buy knock-offs, I would find a seller which specifies that they use name brand li-ion cells (Samsung, LG, Panasonic, etc).
This is what I was hoping to track down. I assume most of the ones on Amazon, ebay etc are junk but wanted to see if there a reliable third party vendor that sold decent quality batteries. 18650 cells are everywhere so I don't see why the cost is still so high or its just the tool manufactures adding a huge markup.
Id rather just buy real OEM batteries off ebay. If you are patient good deals are to be had. Ive bought a pile of 5 amp dewalt batteries over the last couple years and never pay more than $45 each
To answer your question more directly I bough two 12 volt nicad milwaukee batteries about 10 years ago. If memory serves right they worked as good as the oems but stopped charging in aboit two years. This was also a drill I only used in the shop and its only heated when I'm working in it. So storage conditions most likely killed them early
To answer your question more directly I bough two 12 volt nicad milwaukee batteries about 10 years ago. If memory serves right they worked as good as the oems but stopped charging in aboit two years. This was also a drill I only used in the shop and its only heated when I'm working in it. So storage conditions most likely killed them early
DFB
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Really in my case I have numerous Milwaukee Lithium batteries both 12v and 18v enough I don't even track them just rotate them around thru my many different tools and none have failed me yet. Some going on at least 6 years or more so the option of aftermarket "red" stuff hasn't even come up for me.
Actually had 2 brand new ones I did forget about left in a storage bag on shelf and only having less than 25% charge new, did "die" enough where the charger wouldn't recognize them and thru the flashing light code. I jumped them both with a good battery for a few minutes and they started taking a charge once again
Actually had 2 brand new ones I did forget about left in a storage bag on shelf and only having less than 25% charge new, did "die" enough where the charger wouldn't recognize them and thru the flashing light code. I jumped them both with a good battery for a few minutes and they started taking a charge once again
wafrederick
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Like to burn up chargers for the Milwaukee fuel line,seen pictures of this.I was at an Auto Value Tech Expo in Grand Rapids,Mi in Febuary and Milwaukee was there.I asked the rep if the aftermarket batteries voided the warranty on the tool and his answer was yes.If they see a burn mark inside the battery of the tool,void the warranty on the tool right away
Various Project Farm reviews have been discussed here. I think this guy kind of hits the nail on the head. Some are good, some aren't. How are you going to know which you get is the issue.
I did by some 12V NiCad batteries for my older DeWalt drill. They seem to work well enough. That was a case where $30 for a new set of generic batteries was OK but at the OEM price new batteries were too expensive for a 10 year old but still healthy drill.
I did by some 12V NiCad batteries for my older DeWalt drill. They seem to work well enough. That was a case where $30 for a new set of generic batteries was OK but at the OEM price new batteries were too expensive for a 10 year old but still healthy drill.
honcho
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my experience is with aftermarket camera and laptop batteries and, like others have said, have found them pretty inferior to OEM batteries. Consequently, I haven't bothered even trying to buy aftermarket tool batteries.
As for finding "quality" 18650 cells, 18650 is just a form factor (size) and voltage. Just like you can buy crummy or premium AA batteries, there are plenty of companies making 18650 cells of varying quality and capacity. Counterfeiting is rampant with cheap low capacity batteries labeled to look like quality high capacity cells. Samsung, LG Chem, Panasonic and a few others make quality stuff in their factories in Japan, Korea and China and apparently virtually all their production of the good batteries goes into OEM products.
As for finding "quality" 18650 cells, 18650 is just a form factor (size) and voltage. Just like you can buy crummy or premium AA batteries, there are plenty of companies making 18650 cells of varying quality and capacity. Counterfeiting is rampant with cheap low capacity batteries labeled to look like quality high capacity cells. Samsung, LG Chem, Panasonic and a few others make quality stuff in their factories in Japan, Korea and China and apparently virtually all their production of the good batteries goes into OEM products.