Genuine Snap on cart?
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wellstig1
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I've seen one of those before, I believe it housed some type of equipment that it came with.
FoMoCoPower
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One of those has been on the Chicago CL for about a year now. I believe it is a storage unit for a scan tool.
tonydanzah
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I have also seen one in person. About as sturdy as it looks.
I don't understand people's obsession with Snap-On. I truly, honestly don't get it.
Yes, Snap-On is, generally, made in the U.S.A., but so is many Craftsman, Kobalt, ChannelLock, Loggerhead, and SK tools.
Yes, Snap-On has a lifetime warranty, but so does Craftsman and Kobalt. The others may, too, but I know Craftsman and Kobalt do for sure.
I've been a mechanic for about five years now and I've used Snap-On, Craftsman, Kobalt, and probably just about any tool brand you can think of. Snap-On, to be honest, is a complete waste of money.
I have never had a problem with my Craftsman or Kobalt tools. They're just as good as Snap-On. They don't break all that often, and in my opinion, no more than Snap-On, otherwise the companies would lose money due to their lifetime guarantee.
But let's just say I did break one of my Craftsman or Kobalt tools. I can simply run to either Sears or Lowes and get it replaced on my lunch. Meanwhile, anyone who breaks a Snap-On tool has to sit around and wait for the truck to come along.
Just don't seem worth it to me. Frankly, I think ******** Snap-On supporters are just too much into NASCAR.
Anyway, use what you like. I just get tired of the constant, "Snap-On this," and "Snap-On that" I hear at work. I've grown, actually, to hate Snap-On.
Yes, Snap-On is, generally, made in the U.S.A., but so is many Craftsman, Kobalt, ChannelLock, Loggerhead, and SK tools.
Yes, Snap-On has a lifetime warranty, but so does Craftsman and Kobalt. The others may, too, but I know Craftsman and Kobalt do for sure.
I've been a mechanic for about five years now and I've used Snap-On, Craftsman, Kobalt, and probably just about any tool brand you can think of. Snap-On, to be honest, is a complete waste of money.
I have never had a problem with my Craftsman or Kobalt tools. They're just as good as Snap-On. They don't break all that often, and in my opinion, no more than Snap-On, otherwise the companies would lose money due to their lifetime guarantee.
But let's just say I did break one of my Craftsman or Kobalt tools. I can simply run to either Sears or Lowes and get it replaced on my lunch. Meanwhile, anyone who breaks a Snap-On tool has to sit around and wait for the truck to come along.
Just don't seem worth it to me. Frankly, I think ******** Snap-On supporters are just too much into NASCAR.
Anyway, use what you like. I just get tired of the constant, "Snap-On this," and "Snap-On that" I hear at work. I've grown, actually, to hate Snap-On.
tonydanzah
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welcome to the forum, you have much to learn.
Kobalt was part of J.H. Williams at one time, which is a division of snap on. Now kobalt is made by Danaher, who also make allen, craftsman, matco and gearwrench to name a few. Kobalt tools are now rarely usa made. But use whatever tool makes you happy, to get the job done as fast and cheaply as possible.
Kobalt was part of J.H. Williams at one time, which is a division of snap on. Now kobalt is made by Danaher, who also make allen, craftsman, matco and gearwrench to name a few. Kobalt tools are now rarely usa made. But use whatever tool makes you happy, to get the job done as fast and cheaply as possible.
Mickey O
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Yeah, I haven't seen it for awhile and saw it just a couple of days ago, there's a few others that are like permanent ads, the Matco toolbox in Carol Stream (every week) and the guy selling the Hitachi Circular Saw, Self-Level and Universal Bench Tool Work Stand (daily, sometimes twice a day). I wonder if the last one is a spammer.
Mickey O
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I'm selling some Snap-On stuff, you interested?
mrshaun
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man I am glad I do not feel the same way as you do TOOLDUDE. might be bad for business.......
If a tool works, then use it. If it does not and a " name brand " company makes one that does, then use that one.
just get a sgdp42irbr and start with that.
It works when many other fail. I demonstrated that to my self tuesday taking apart an old swing set. the no name bit in my cordless drill kept slipping. Pulled out the snap on #2 with the ACR tip and wow it did not slip and came right out. Imagine that...
If a tool works, then use it. If it does not and a " name brand " company makes one that does, then use that one.
just get a sgdp42irbr and start with that.
It works when many other fail. I demonstrated that to my self tuesday taking apart an old swing set. the no name bit in my cordless drill kept slipping. Pulled out the snap on #2 with the ACR tip and wow it did not slip and came right out. Imagine that...
Thanks for the welcome.
I am aware of J.H. Willaims manufacturing Kobalt at one time. I'm also aware that now Danaher manufactures them.
All of my Kobalt tools are made in the U.S.A. The reason I use Craftsman AND Kobalt is because I only buy American, and unfortunately, some Kobalt and Craftsman tools are made elsewhere. So, for example, my pliers are all Craftsman, because I can't find a Kobalt pair made here.
I'm also aware that some Snap-On tools are outsourced, too. In fact, I've heard that some of the tools on the truck are rip-offs. I don't know how true that is, but that's what I hear.
Snap-On is far too expensive for me, and unless my Snap-On socket is going to cook for me, I'll stick with Craftsman and Kobalt.
Thanks.
Perhaps a Craftsman bit would have done the job, too, no?
tonydanzah
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mrshaun
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this was on a craftsman drill and it was the bit that came with the set from a few years back. I do not use my snap on drill out in the mud where the swing set was. I keep it nice and clean in the garage.
atari
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I cant find a brand on any of my tools, They just say taiwan.
Zrexxer
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The original poster really didn't ask about all your heartfelt opinions about Snap On, all he asked was if that was a real SO cart. You can always start your own thread about your seething hatred of Snap On.
fordbroncodave
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that cart is from the early 90's featured in catalog 200 and 300 for sure.
I didn't realize it really mattered what the OP was asking of me, if anything at all. But it occurs to me that Snap-On must be a big thing around here, otherwise why bother creating a thread dedicated to a single Snap-On tool cart? I was merely giving my opinion regarding Snap-On Tools, and, best I can figure, I'm entitled to do so.
I don't like Snap-On, at all, and that's my personal opinion, which I'm entitled to. I also mentioned that people should use whatever they want, regardless of my opinion. It doesn't matter to me. I just don't like Snap-On. I think they're overpriced, bandwagon tools, and I made that clear. But like another poster said, use whatever makes you happy.
Unlike you, my intention was to not to be disagreeable, rude, or nasty. I just don't like Snap-On. You do, and that's cool. Everyone should join a club - or a cult. Whatever makes you happy, dude.
I've never used a Snap-On drill, but I've used their bits. They're good, but then again, I've not had any issues with my Craftsman bits. One thing I do like about one Snap-On drill in particular I came across is that it was made in the U.S.A. Rare to find a power tool made here. It was like $300 and some change. Bit too much for me.
I just ordered the SGDP42IRBR, because I can afford $18, and I want to see if you're right. I have some screws to take out that I'm sure will give me a problem; let's see if this thing can do what you say it can.
This ToolDude seems like a forum troll to me.
You cant have an opinion if you have not idea what you are talking about in the first place.
You have been in the trade for 5 years. Why dont you sit back and read what the guys who have been pullin' wrenches for 25-30 years have to say...you might learn something.
You cant have an opinion if you have not idea what you are talking about in the first place.
You have been in the trade for 5 years. Why dont you sit back and read what the guys who have been pullin' wrenches for 25-30 years have to say...you might learn something.
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Zrexxer
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Because hijacking someone else's question to rant and rave about your own unrelated opinions is poor etiquette on discussion forums.
chadster1
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07Forester
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Tooldude,
some might say the same thing about your obvious beloved apple/mac products. They are in fact a personal computer that you and I included paid far too much for. I however am not a 100% apple fanboy like most. However I do have many apple products. There really is no difference between an apple computer and a windows based machine except the os. I've even built a computer of my own that runs windows and osx. Some might say hardware is also a factor but that was much before the release of osx.
To me snap on is an amazing tool company. They are tried and true in the business and have been an American icon for many years. The craftsman name USED to hold value once upon a time however, me and many others, feel that is no longer the case.
Snap on MAY be expensive to some. I will admit that I have even asked myself a few times if buying a few certain things were worth the cost difference. After using the tool the answer has always been yes.
Besides what you just bought by recommendation, do you own anything else that is made by snap on? If so....what is it? If not have you USED snap on products for an extended period of time? Or was it merely a few turns of a ratchet and that was the end of it?
I can see why you're turned off due to the price. However for the people who think it's worth it and the people who can afford it can and probably will use snap on til the day they die. On the other hand you have people where the motto is "a tool is a tool no matter who the manufacture".
My grandfather used snap-on tools almost every day of his life and told me that a quality tool will always be better.
Something to think about.
some might say the same thing about your obvious beloved apple/mac products. They are in fact a personal computer that you and I included paid far too much for. I however am not a 100% apple fanboy like most. However I do have many apple products. There really is no difference between an apple computer and a windows based machine except the os. I've even built a computer of my own that runs windows and osx. Some might say hardware is also a factor but that was much before the release of osx.
To me snap on is an amazing tool company. They are tried and true in the business and have been an American icon for many years. The craftsman name USED to hold value once upon a time however, me and many others, feel that is no longer the case.
Snap on MAY be expensive to some. I will admit that I have even asked myself a few times if buying a few certain things were worth the cost difference. After using the tool the answer has always been yes.
Besides what you just bought by recommendation, do you own anything else that is made by snap on? If so....what is it? If not have you USED snap on products for an extended period of time? Or was it merely a few turns of a ratchet and that was the end of it?
I can see why you're turned off due to the price. However for the people who think it's worth it and the people who can afford it can and probably will use snap on til the day they die. On the other hand you have people where the motto is "a tool is a tool no matter who the manufacture".
My grandfather used snap-on tools almost every day of his life and told me that a quality tool will always be better.
Something to think about.
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RbrtAWhyt
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07 Forrester, I was thinking the same thing. I think Macs are overpriced and overrated, much like this guy thinks snap-on is overpriced and overrated. I guess its all perspective...
Kurn
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The only thing I really don't like about SO is the "collectable" aspect,I think it drives prices,especially on used stuff,up.This cart,however,doesn't appear to be that.
Bart Simpson
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Bart Simpson
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Ok to get this back on track after the highjack.......
Yes Snap On Sold those for years.
They last appeared in catalog # 400 issued June 1997
They are part # KRP1000 SYSTEM 1000
Although you can't really make it out in the pics it has KRP1000 right above the left front wheel.
It was just a general purpose cart.
It is made of a tough polymer filled with ridgid plastic foam.
It has a ball bearing top that you can slide over the engine compartment.
fordbroncodave
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i'd rather have that service cart then a metal one just because its not nearly as heavy and noisy when being rolled around
atari
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We have several carts at work made of that stuff. It is *********, after the bomb goes off the only thing left will be roaches, the IRS, and carts made out of that stuff!
chadster1
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Kinda redundant saying that the IRS and roaches will be left dont you think.
Diesel_Crawler
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Hey I am away a day and we has a new troll. 
glenmore
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I didn't realize it really mattered what the OP was asking of me, if anything at all. But it occurs to me that Snap-On must be a big thing around here, otherwise why bother creating a thread dedicated to a single Snap-On tool cart? I was merely giving my opinion regarding Snap-On Tools, and, best I can figure, I'm entitled to do so.
I don't like Snap-On, at all, and that's my personal opinion, which I'm entitled to. I also mentioned that people should use whatever they want, regardless of my opinion. It doesn't matter to me. I just don't like Snap-On. I think they're overpriced, bandwagon tools, and I made that clear. But like another poster said, use whatever makes you happy.
Unlike you, my intention was to not to be disagreeable, rude, or nasty. I just don't like Snap-On. You do, and that's cool. Everyone should join a club - or a cult. Whatever makes you happy, dude.
A long time ago in a galaxy far away, when users groups were tiny little things, discussions did have this format. Someone would ask a question. Some would answer, others would chime in, another question would come up and the thread would carom off in another direction. It had a nice whimsical quality to it, like a conversation amongst friends around a kitchen table.
But that was then and this is now. Much more crowed now and lots of noise, so that's why we have forums on different topics and threads for different questions.
That you do not know this is troubling. Are you new to this planet?
RbrtAWhyt
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Glenmore, excellent response!
O RLY
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ACR tip FTW
crewchief888
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What do you mean? It looks sturdy to me, but maybe a little top heavy.
It was just a general purpose cart.
It is made of a tough polymer filled with ridgid plastic foam.
It has a ball bearing top that you can slide over the engine compartment.
Is it really a general purpose cart?
My first impression was that it was the storage cart for some kind of analyzer.
If I can get it for $100 what do you guys think?
Bart Simpson
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It is plenty sturdy for what it was made for.
Snappy sold it for at least 5 years,it is in catalog #'s 200,300 and 400.
If it was a complete P.O.S. don't you think it would of been discontinued right away ?
YES, as I previously stated .... it IS a GENERAL PURPOSE CART.
NO it was not sold with any diagnostic equipment or anything like that.
There were optional things like tote trays,socket holders,etc. available for it but that was it.
While this cart is unusual looking it was not made for use with any specific equipment.
Only you can decide what is worth ... to you.
Why don't you just go look at it and see if it is sturdy enough for you, evaluate the condition ,then decide what your willing to pay.
Good luck.
zsuperbee
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I have one bought it in 1995, bought it so if I a bump a car it won't get scratched. Still works like new was a good investment in my opinion.
I didn't hijack the thread; I made a remark regarding the underlying topic of the thread: Snap-On. Then the dogs went a mauling. As I said, I'm entitled to my opinions, as you are entitled to yours.
And I don't bash Snap-On because their tools are out of my budget. I bash them because a $100 Snap-On tool, in my experience, does no better than a $20 Craftsman. Again, personal opinion and preference, which, again, I'm entitled to.
And I suppose 5 years of turning wrenches isn't enough time to garner a personal opinion... I mean, ya know, obviously, right.... :rolls eyes:
Some would and some would not, and, no, I didn't pay "far too much" for mine. My wife is a photographer/digital artist and Mac does that better, period, than any Windows, Linux, or Solaris machine could. There is simply no comparison. It's not even in the realm of close.
And I was, in another life, a computer programmer, and Macs are much more secure than Windows computers. Linux, because it's based on the Unix system, is comparable, but the compatibility just isn't there, nor ease of use.
That's not really true either, if you include aesthetics. But regardless, the OS and the system behind it (the "second operating system, i.e., Unix) most certainly is a difference - a ****** big one.
The hardware isn't much different, as Apple now uses Intel processors, which are the best in my once professional opinion. Don't ever let anyone tell you Power PC or AMD are better; they're not. In fact, switching from Power PC to Intel was the smartest thing Apple ever did.
I understand this, but you make a huge mistake in comparing Apple computers to Snap-On tools, in that, Apple computers are quite affordable. In fact, one can purchase a Mac Mini for the same price one can purchase a basic Windows PC, but the Mac, of course, is of MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better quality - for that price. Granted, the Mac Mini doesn't come with a monitor or keyboard, but that's no difference, as it's so small and portable, connecting it to your television is the thing to do. Just purchase a wireless keyboard. Intense experience, especially if you have a big screen T.V. and love gaming. And if that's not your thing, monitors and keyboards can be gotten for a song.
Personal opinion and I respect it.
The shop I used to work for owned, basically, all Snap-On tools. I honestly don't find them any better than my Craftsman.
I most certainly don't believe "a tool is a tool..." That's absurd. Simply absurd. I've busted many a import ratchets and won't use them again.
My grandfather was a mechanic and used Craftsman his whole life. He wouldn't use anything else. It's all personal preference and opinion.
Now, I don't know why everyone is getting so offended by my comments. If you want to use Snap-On, use them! I'm not calling you stupid, dumb, or anything close for using them, because IN YOUR OPINION, they're the bomb. In my opinion, they're bandwagon tools that are obviously good quality, but no better than cheaper Craftsman and Kobalt tools. It's all opinion, and I am entitled to mine, and ask me if I care that my opinion seems to rustle so many feathers.
And I don't bash Snap-On because their tools are out of my budget. I bash them because a $100 Snap-On tool, in my experience, does no better than a $20 Craftsman. Again, personal opinion and preference, which, again, I'm entitled to.
And I suppose 5 years of turning wrenches isn't enough time to garner a personal opinion... I mean, ya know, obviously, right.... :rolls eyes:
Some would and some would not, and, no, I didn't pay "far too much" for mine. My wife is a photographer/digital artist and Mac does that better, period, than any Windows, Linux, or Solaris machine could. There is simply no comparison. It's not even in the realm of close.
And I was, in another life, a computer programmer, and Macs are much more secure than Windows computers. Linux, because it's based on the Unix system, is comparable, but the compatibility just isn't there, nor ease of use.
That's not really true either, if you include aesthetics. But regardless, the OS and the system behind it (the "second operating system, i.e., Unix) most certainly is a difference - a ****** big one.
The hardware isn't much different, as Apple now uses Intel processors, which are the best in my once professional opinion. Don't ever let anyone tell you Power PC or AMD are better; they're not. In fact, switching from Power PC to Intel was the smartest thing Apple ever did.
I understand this, but you make a huge mistake in comparing Apple computers to Snap-On tools, in that, Apple computers are quite affordable. In fact, one can purchase a Mac Mini for the same price one can purchase a basic Windows PC, but the Mac, of course, is of MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better quality - for that price. Granted, the Mac Mini doesn't come with a monitor or keyboard, but that's no difference, as it's so small and portable, connecting it to your television is the thing to do. Just purchase a wireless keyboard. Intense experience, especially if you have a big screen T.V. and love gaming. And if that's not your thing, monitors and keyboards can be gotten for a song.
Personal opinion and I respect it.
The shop I used to work for owned, basically, all Snap-On tools. I honestly don't find them any better than my Craftsman.
I most certainly don't believe "a tool is a tool..." That's absurd. Simply absurd. I've busted many a import ratchets and won't use them again.
My grandfather was a mechanic and used Craftsman his whole life. He wouldn't use anything else. It's all personal preference and opinion.
Now, I don't know why everyone is getting so offended by my comments. If you want to use Snap-On, use them! I'm not calling you stupid, dumb, or anything close for using them, because IN YOUR OPINION, they're the bomb. In my opinion, they're bandwagon tools that are obviously good quality, but no better than cheaper Craftsman and Kobalt tools. It's all opinion, and I am entitled to mine, and ask me if I care that my opinion seems to rustle so many feathers.
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07Forester
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Apple computers are just like any if you look at the real facts and stop being a "fan boy" for two seconds . They will simply perform exactly the same tasks as "windows" based computers. You need to remember that I probably have a few more macs than you. I have everything from Mac mini's to Mac Pros. Saying that they are "better" is laughable" at best. A "better" unit is a unit that can do something it's competitor cannot. I'm fairly certain any PC in MY home can run aperture and photoshop CS4 just fine without any hiccups. If you want to talk about mac mini's they are NOTHING in comparison of what you could buy as far as speed, etc is concerned.
OT but I am admitting right now that if you're talking about any VISTA operated system then sure...mac wins. Then again apple has failed with more then enough things...such as the mac mini.
I have edited insane sized HD videos on both my mac pro and the pc I built and I will say they are "about" the same. No real differences.
As far as your security comment goes...ANY computer can be secure if you as a human aren't being malicious. Sure apple products do in fact stop risks a "bit" easier, but saying that a windows based machine doesn't is absurd.
Also, having a unit "look" better is a little asinine. Just because something is aesthetically pleasing doesn't mean it's better. That's where your comments start to hold zero ground.
All in all really it's becoming a ******* contest. I think you can figure out the reason everyone is jumping your ****. If not...i'll tell you.
You come on here with MINIMAL posts and right away start going ******* on bashing snap on. Sure...many people with myself included adore snap on tools. However instead of saying you simply just don't understand the concept of why we do...you in turn start bashing. I'm sure you'd feel the same way if we talked about your beloved craftsman tools, etc. Obviously you feel the same way about your beloved apple products.
It's a mere personal preference about what YOU like best. Maybe you don't fully understand some of the things there is to know about snap on but I can almost guarantee that when you do. You'll stop.