German tools?
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Dave455
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What a question! That's like asking if beer or lager is best!!
They're both good, so let's think about the differences!
The finish is different - Stahlwille are genuine Satin, Hazet are Matte, with polished highlights. I have Stahlwille I bought 20 years ago, and I find the finish is very durable. Provided you don't abuse the tool it even seems to polish slightly and almost improve with use! My Hazet is not as old, but so far there are no issues! Unlike a highly polished finish, the Matte takes use very well!
The patterns of the tools are slightly different! Stahlwille put an offset on the box end of their long combo wrenches, but not the short! Hazet the other way around! There are many other differences, and both makers offer patterns that the other doesn't!
Personally, I think the differences are quite slight, and come down to choosing the pattern you like the most! I have Stahlwille Corona (shallow offset) box end wrenches and Motor (open enders) in my main box. These are my go to tools for Metric sizes and I love 'em! But... when it come to combo wrenches I prefer the long Hazet's
Most of my German ratchets are Stahlwille, but they are mostly the durable steel handle versions which Hazet don't offer! Ditto extensions (I love the smooth pattern of the Stahlwille's which don't hang up on pipes and stuff) and some sockets (once the initial paint protection has rubbed off, the internal chroming seems really durable - I have a 10mm 6 pointer that's seen mega use and still looks good)
Most of my Inhex bits are Hazet. I think they are one of the few firms to offer two different styles of the same tool - either the forged one piece or the two piece with the gold bits! Both versions seem to be superb! I'm buying their torx too!
So, all in all, I think both are good, and it just comes down to choosing the style you like the best!
One word of caution though - I'm in the U.K. and can buy either Stahlwille or Hazet for considerably less money than say Snap On, and have no hesitation in doing so! But... if I was in the U.S. and Stahlwille / Hazet was Snap On money it would be a much harder call!
They're both good, so let's think about the differences!
The finish is different - Stahlwille are genuine Satin, Hazet are Matte, with polished highlights. I have Stahlwille I bought 20 years ago, and I find the finish is very durable. Provided you don't abuse the tool it even seems to polish slightly and almost improve with use! My Hazet is not as old, but so far there are no issues! Unlike a highly polished finish, the Matte takes use very well!
The patterns of the tools are slightly different! Stahlwille put an offset on the box end of their long combo wrenches, but not the short! Hazet the other way around! There are many other differences, and both makers offer patterns that the other doesn't!
Personally, I think the differences are quite slight, and come down to choosing the pattern you like the most! I have Stahlwille Corona (shallow offset) box end wrenches and Motor (open enders) in my main box. These are my go to tools for Metric sizes and I love 'em! But... when it come to combo wrenches I prefer the long Hazet's
Most of my German ratchets are Stahlwille, but they are mostly the durable steel handle versions which Hazet don't offer! Ditto extensions (I love the smooth pattern of the Stahlwille's which don't hang up on pipes and stuff) and some sockets (once the initial paint protection has rubbed off, the internal chroming seems really durable - I have a 10mm 6 pointer that's seen mega use and still looks good)
Most of my Inhex bits are Hazet. I think they are one of the few firms to offer two different styles of the same tool - either the forged one piece or the two piece with the gold bits! Both versions seem to be superb! I'm buying their torx too!
So, all in all, I think both are good, and it just comes down to choosing the style you like the best!
One word of caution though - I'm in the U.K. and can buy either Stahlwille or Hazet for considerably less money than say Snap On, and have no hesitation in doing so! But... if I was in the U.S. and Stahlwille / Hazet was Snap On money it would be a much harder call!
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Exceller8
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They are both fantastic tools. I like Hazet a little better but that's just my personal choice.
Mercedes or BMW ? Coke or Pepsi ? Bosch or Metabo ? Deere or Claas ? Jever or Astra ? VW or Opel ? mountain dew code red or original ? apple or pear ? pants or skirt ? blonde or brunette ? heaven or hell ? white or black ? oak or birch ? 
KCT_Jordan
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Mercedes or BMW ? Coke or Pepsi ? Bosch or Metabo ? Deere or Claas ? Jever or Astra ? VW or Opel ? mountain dew code red or original ? apple or pear ? pants or skirt ? blonde or brunette ? heaven or hell ? white or black ? oak or birch ?
Truth.
Mercedes or BMW ? Coke or Pepsi ? Bosch or Metabo ? Deere or Claas ? Jever or Astra ? VW or Opel ? mountain dew code red or original ? apple or pear ? pants or skirt ? blonde or brunette ? heaven or hell ? white or black ? oak or birch ?
So Gedore is the red-headed step-child? LOL
lol
ok again:
Mercedes or BMW or Audi ? Coke or Pepsi or Dr Pepper ? Bosch or Metabo or Makita ? Deere or Claas or New Holland ? VW or Opel or Ford ?........
Mercedes or BMW ? Coke or Pepsi ? Bosch or Metabo ? Deere or Claas ? Jever or Astra ? VW or Opel ? mountain dew code red or original ? apple or pear ? pants or skirt ? blonde or brunette ? heaven or hell ? white or black ? oak or birch ?
You forgot the most important one:
Green or blue?
CobraChevelle
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does gedore offer a 75 degree offset wench?
anndel
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Mercedes or BMW ? Coke or Pepsi ? Bosch or Metabo ? Deere or Claas ? Jever or Astra ? VW or Opel ? mountain dew code red or original ? apple or pear ? pants or skirt ? blonde or brunette ? heaven or hell ? white or black ? oak or birch ?
skirt, brunette, oak
marlinspike
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From a design philosophy standpoint, generally speaking, the difference seems to be:
Stahlwille - thinner, but still strong
Gedore - stronger, but bulkier
Hazet - in the middle.
Not always, but by and large this seems to be the case.
Stahlwille - thinner, but still strong
Gedore - stronger, but bulkier
Hazet - in the middle.
Not always, but by and large this seems to be the case.
berlysario
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They are both fantastic tools.
They do have. No 2
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four.cycle
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Monte said:
Ginger or Mary Ann?
ultgar
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At the end of the day, the tool is only as good as the person using it.
If you're starting out with tools and like a few brands, you might want to choose the one that has the "deeper" tool line for your specialty. Maybe Hazet is a better choice for Mercedes and Porsche techs, Stahlwille for VW and Audi, Facom/USAG for Ferrari..... I really don't know these days.
Also how easy is it to find supply and support for the tool line in your country. Toptul brand is a great value but it takes 60 days to get a stock order in from Taiwan. Stahlwille and Beta have stocking distributors here in the US, Hazet a few stocking dealers, and USAG has one guy here in the US (Frenotec).
SD
If you're starting out with tools and like a few brands, you might want to choose the one that has the "deeper" tool line for your specialty. Maybe Hazet is a better choice for Mercedes and Porsche techs, Stahlwille for VW and Audi, Facom/USAG for Ferrari..... I really don't know these days.
Also how easy is it to find supply and support for the tool line in your country. Toptul brand is a great value but it takes 60 days to get a stock order in from Taiwan. Stahlwille and Beta have stocking distributors here in the US, Hazet a few stocking dealers, and USAG has one guy here in the US (Frenotec).
SD
Mercedes or BMW ? Coke or Pepsi ? Bosch or Metabo ? Deere or Claas ? Jever or Astra ? VW or Opel ? mountain dew code red or original ? apple or pear ? pants or skirt ? blonde or brunette ? heaven or hell ? white or black ? oak or birch ?
Fine!
I'll play along
Benz
Coke
Bosch
Don't know
Don't know
VW
Original MD
Pear
Skirt
Blonde
Hell
Black
Oak
Do I win something?
txvwnut
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Both if they're down for it.
Al Borland
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You're gonna leave Mrs. Howell Hanging???
Hint: There's a reason they called her "Lovey"!
