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Getting varying results for heater btu calculation

NoSloCoupes

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I have a 32x34 shop with 14' ceiling. Walls and ceiling are insulated very well, no windows, one man door, and a 16x12 door. Located in central Il where it can get pretty cold and figuring 50-60 degrees would be fine inside. Using different online sites, i get anywhere from 60,000-90,000 btu. I've been looking at the big maxx, hot dawg, and think i've settled on the Sterling GG with seperated combustion.

Any help? Should i purchase by the btu rating or the btu after figuring the heater is only 80% efficient?
 
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Charles (in GA)

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Cannot answer your last question. I suspect you want to use the output btu's. Be sure and do not oversize the heater. This will cause short cycling of the unit and for several reasons, this is probably not good. You want it to come on and run for a decent amount of time before it shuts off.

Thats a big door, is is insulated? and which side of the building does the door face? that factors into it also.

Charles
 
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Both doors face the south. Big door is insulated, albeit diy with rigid foam board...R value probably of 3. Could be wrong on the door, may be a 14x10...can't remember lol.
 
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In your case i would opt for the 75K unit. If cost isin't an issue, go with the 100k unit especially with he lower R rating in the walls, 1100 sq/ft with high ceilings and a big door.

I purchased the 75k for a 36 x 38 w/R19 in the walls and R30 in the ceiling. Of course i have yet to get the darn thing up.
 
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I missed the 14 ft ceiling height when reading your post the first time. I know I keep sounding like a parrot in these threads, but you really need some ceiling fans with a ceiling that high. It will help push the heat back down to where you can feel it. Otherwise you will have heat stratification like you never imagined, 50 on the floor and 80 at the ceiling. They are nice to have in the summer time also.

Charles
 

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Yes...you use the heater output rating (80%) that's the btu's the heater puts into the building (the rest goes up the flue). Terms like well insulated don't count. You need to figure the square footage of the areas and know the R and then U values of the areas. Then the design temps and it's just simple math after that. As an example your garage ceiling with an R30 would need 2539 btu's an hour to keep it 70 inside at 0 outside. The Door at R3 will require 4480 btu's an hour for the same temp differential. It works like this...1 divided by R Value = U value..... U value X sq footage of the area X desired temp rise = btu's required. Your door for example...16x12 = 192 sq ft, so 1 divided by R3 = .3333U's.... 192 x .3333 U's = 63.99 btu's per degree of temp rise. 0 outside...70 inside = 70 degrees rise. So 63.99 btu's X 70 = 4480 btu's an hour for the door.

I have a 24x34x11 garage here in Minnesota and have no problem keeping it 70 with a 45,000 btu input (36,000 btu output) unit heater. That said I have NO desire to be trying to heat my garage to 70 when it's -20 outside. I heat all winter and keep my garage 45 except when I'm working in it.

That's a little bit of simplification, since you need to figure for infiltration too, but you should get the idea.

Last winter I figure it cost me about $250 to heat my garage for the winter. I used to take my car and truck to the car wash twice a week (each) during the winter @ $6 every time, now I hand wash them in the garage at home, so I figure the heating cost is a wash :)
 
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I'll also be installing a couple fans. I'm thinking the Sterling GG 90,000....
 

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Yes...you use the heater output rating (80%) that's the btu's the heater puts into the building (the rest goes up the flue). Terms like well insulated don't count. You need to figure the square footage of the areas and know the R and then U values of the areas. Then the design temps and it's just simple math after that. As an example your garage ceiling with an R30 would need 2539 btu's an hour to keep it 70 inside at 0 outside. The Door at R3 will require 4480 btu's an hour for the same temp differential. It works like this...1 divided by R Value = U value..... U value X sq footage of the area X desired temp rise = btu's required. Your door for example...16x12 = 192 sq ft, so 1 divided by R3 = .3333U's.... 192 x .3333 U's = 63.99 btu's per degree of temp rise. 0 outside...70 inside = 70 degrees rise. So 63.99 btu's X 70 = 4480 btu's an hour for the door.

I have a 24x34x11 garage here in Minnesota and have no problem keeping it 70 with a 45,000 btu input (36,000 btu output) unit heater. That said I have NO desire to be trying to heat my garage to 70 when it's -20 outside. I heat all winter and keep my garage 45 except when I'm working in it.

That's a little bit of simplification, since you need to figure for infiltration too, but you should get the idea.

Last winter I figure it cost me about $250 to heat my garage for the winter. I used to take my car and truck to the car wash twice a week (each) during the winter @ $6 every time, now I hand wash them in the garage at home, so I figure the heating cost is a wash :)


what kind/brand of heater do you have?
 
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