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GFC wiring fun

Nt.j

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Bought a home built in the 70's with the lights and outlets of the dining room being run through the GFC outlet in the kitchen. Today I came home and there is no power running to them even though the fuses aren't blown (replaced them just to be sure), and the GFC outlet is not thrown (no red light, reset it multiple times).

Anything else to check before I call the electrician?
 
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dimarcelli

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This happened to a gfci outlet in my garage once. Something inside went bad and it wasn't providing power to the downstream fixtures. I yanked it out and replaced it.
 
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Nt.j

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Now I'm just bewildered. Replaced the GFC in kitchen with the one in the bathroom I knew was working. Didn't fix the problem, but the GFCI I took out of the kitchen (where there was the issue) and moved into the bathroom (where there was no issue), now 24 hours later neither are working. Neither will even reset at this point....what did I do wrong?
 
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ddawg16

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I would start looking for some loose connections.....

Do you have a decent volt meter?

Are any of your outlets back stabbed?
 

RECox286

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If you have good load and line at the gfi, consider the fact that you may

have lost neutral or hot somewhere between the gfi and the rest of the

circuit. Ie: there could be a mouse in the wall that is now fried, or

a junction box with a wire nut that loosened up, or a ... You will just

have to find the fox in the henhouse. Try this, take one of the recep-

tacles that are not working apart enough to probe the wires with an

ohm meter (continuity) then do the same thing with the gfi. Get a

length of wire that will span the distance between the two. Have a

helper touch the jumper wire to either the hot or neutral at one location,

then probe your ohm meter between the same polarity and the jumper

at your location. If there is continuity on both the hot and neutral,

you have other than an open in the wiring, and have some other problem.

Temporarily bug the wires of the gfi together, load and line (take the gfi

out of the circuit) then see what happens. With the gfi out of the circuit,

you can also stab a non-working receptacle if it has a ground; If you don't

have 120v between hot and neutral, try hot to ground to see if the neutal

is open or if the hot is open. This may seem difficult, but is quite logical

if you think about it or diagram it out. Last question: Does the gfi test and

consequently reset when you try doing that ? If so, then I'll put money on

there being a open wire somewhere downstream on the load side of the

device.

Uncle Bob
 
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Nt.j

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Thanks guys for the input. Ruled out faulty GFC's, tried replacing them both and got nothing. They both reset instantly when you go to test them.

Open wire downstream?
 

wyliesdiesels

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Did u make sure to put the correct wires on the line side(incoming terminals)? Some GFCIs wont work if wired backwards. Also, check for voltage between hot/grnd and hot/neu as suggested above and see if you have loose/bad "back-stabbed" connections on outlets!
 
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