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Going backwards with tool purchases

Robinson1

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I sold a Willaims 50666 set a few days ago and it really got me to thinking. That set rode on my work truck for years and only got pulled off because it had gotten to the point where I really wasn't using it. Impact sockets had pretty much taken its role and truck space is limited and precious.

You see this socket set was an upgrade to a mix matched assortment of Craftsman and Pittsburgh that previously was on my truck. I looked for weeks online trying to decide what I was going to replace it with. My criteria were complete set of good quality preferably in a compact case. The 50666 set checked all those marks.

Then I got to thinking back over the past year or so. I've sold off several tools including a nice Proto set that I just simply never used.

The fact of the matter is I've moved backwards.

In the past six months:

I bought Vevor impact sockets.
Random Amazon brand wrenches to fill in gaps or for spares of commonly used sizes.
A rail of Jobsmart sockets (Tractor Supply) for $20 because I wanted some metric sockets to keep in one of my tractors.
A set of Performance Tool wrenches to go with the JobSmart sockets.

I set up a cantilever box to make repairs easier away from the shop. I filled this mostly with spare tools I already had, but I bought the basic Pittsburgh SAE set of combination wrenches for $9.99. I was also planning to buy the metric set then realized they skipped. Instead, I got a set of Duratech 8-19 mm wrenches. I also bought a basic Hart (Wal-Mart) 1/4" drive socket set.

The fact of the matter is the cheap tools have been fine. I haven't broken anything. I haven't felt they have impaired my ability to fix anything. The Performance Tool wrenches are definitely low end. Which is precisely why I opted for a different brand instead for the cantilever box tools. Let's be honest if Harbor Freights basic offering is an upgrade to another brand of tool that says something. on the flip side i didn't feel like they were low quality enough to return and Amazon returns are easy.

At the end of the day there's a place for cheap tools and a place for good tools and not all good tools are expensive. I just thought it was comical when i realized I had sold the best socket set I owned and bought a whole lot of what most would consider junk the past year.

Needless to say, there's no Snap-On at my shop.
 
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nadogail

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I still have some of the "Good" tools I acquired years ago, my recent purchases have been "OK" tools of questionable manufacturer.
 

gungatim

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I'm in the "time to get rid of 40 years of tools" boat. Need to liquidate everything or my wife will just auction it off for pennies on the dollar when I'm gone. Nobody seems to want or need tools anymore, unfortunately.
 

JradM

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I think the disparity between budget, mid-grade and professional tools has shrunk considerably over the years. There's still an even lower grade - I'd label it "cheap and disposable" - that will really hamper your productivity, but the difference between Crescent and Nepros isn't extreme.
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That's not to say there's NO difference either. It seems like you get less and less improvement as you move up the hierarchy, but you're still getting something for the money.

The amount of quality disparity varies by tool category too. E.g. sockets get slightly better as you spend more money - better finishes, thinner walls, unusual profiles, complex broaching, nice chrome, etc. But the "cheap" Husky sockets will turn bolts nearly as well as the expensive Koken.
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On the other hand, cheap screwdrivers and pliers are functionally pretty different from their pricier counterparts. You actually get improved grip from hardened teeth or specially-shaped jaws - and it's different enough that you'll FEEL it.

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LWB

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I'm doing the opposite. The tools I use all the time are getting sold and I'm buying higher end tools. They're a joy to use. That said, I'm selling off a lot of tools too and minimizing the box as much as possible.

My woodworking tools are almost all vintage, except for some I inherited.
 

Benny Franklin

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Some things it’s worth spending the money on- pliers, screwdrivers, drill bits/driver bits to name a few.

Good cordless tools are invaluable as well.


On the flip side, I have been unable to break a Pittsburgh impact socket or a Tractor Supply/Rural King wrench


It seems like Icon is giving the truck brands some competition, obviously the fit and finish is nicer with high end tools but not everyone needs a rolling chest full of Snap On
 

Steve_P

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As has been said a lot here, the "name brand" Taiwan made sockets and bit sockets today are excellent quality. As are the Gearwrench, Tekton, Capri.... 90T ratchets. Saying that, Knipex and NWS pliers, Wiha screwdrivers, Starrett punches.... are all a pleasure to use and worth the premium price to me. Drill bits you can't cheap out on- you can throw 10 cheap bits at something and totally fail when one good one will do. Some things it's worth spending the extra $ for, some things not so much; that's up to each of us individually to decide.
 
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Komet

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Some cheap stuff is actually good these days. When I don't know how much I'm going to need a new thing, I've been giving the Harbor Freight version a go and I see how it does unless a particular brand strikes my fancy. Sometimes it's totally alright forever (pullers, limited use specialty equipment), sometimes it works but the low quality alloy gets chewed up and bent (Pittsburgh pliers, c clamps), sometimes it fails spectacularly (flare nut wrenches). I upgrade after each failure because I learn why and where I need the quality.
 

dchawk81

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I'm in the "time to get rid of 40 years of tools" boat. Need to liquidate everything or my wife will just auction it off for pennies on the dollar when I'm gone. Nobody seems to want or need tools anymore, unfortunately.
Make her run all the errands. 🤷
 

Jtels85

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I work for a Heavy Equipment dealer and while the SnapOn and MAC truck show up, many of our techs have boxes full of Pittsburgh, ICON, Husky, Milwaukee, JobSmart, Sunex, etc… The tools do the job.

There are those who swear by the tool trucks and those who realize they can do their job with budget tools.
 

oldschoolcraft

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I can't believe people here are SELLING tools? No, the answer is always MORE tools. Better to have it and not need it!

When you need that locking flex head midget ratcheting flare wrench in 18.5mm and you don't have it, then you'll see!

If anyone wants to put my contact info in your estate documents, I'll be sure to take good care of your widows and 40-year old Snap On tools.
 
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