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23ford

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Dad is nearly 90 and still doing good (still drives and lives alone after mom died) but he wants to clear out stuff. He owned a garage and paint and body shop decades ago and when it was shut down brought it all home now I have to go thru it sort it out and dispose of it for him.

Now it is tuff but I am sure some of you have gone thru this before so........Please offer positive advice and what/who to watch out for....Thank You
 
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I would be very cautious about any paint and chemicals. Responsible disposal is needed but be careful not to get into a full blown haz mat situation.

Good luck and put aside a lot of time to do the job.
 

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Not to sound trite but just like eating an Elephant - one bite at a time. Remember he is most likely going to have sentimental attachment to things you will not understand. Just smile and move on, life is to short to be stressed over it and with him!
 
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Thank you he has given me the freedom to do as I need to. No one else in the family cares about this stuff......"just call in a dumpster and haul it away"....a shame
 

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Does your local community college or high school offer any kind of paint/body/mechanical curriculum?
If so you might be able to donate it all... it would beat having to clean it out piece by piece.

I'd also check with a local body shop or repair shop to see if they have any kids just starting out that could use a hand up.

Good luck.
 
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As noted above, a 'bite at a time'

I'd go through and get rid of any paints and solvents first.

Then sort the remaining according to function.

Then go through and pick out the stuff you know for a fact you want to keep.

At this point, the rest of obvious.

Sell or donate. One is cash, the other a tax deduction.
 

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I cleaned out Dad's garage last summer after he passed, he would have turned 90 in October.

He had so much stuff, I know where I got my tendency to keep stuff "just in case".

We ended up with a truck bed full of items that went to our local hazardous waste collection(twice a year, can drop anything(well almost anything)).

Then I had several loads of things that were taken to the dump. Dad had used spark plugs from cars he had in the 90's, and the broken parts from a boat motor he rebuilt in the 90's. The list goes on, and on....

I had to fight the urge to keep some of the stuff, buckets of fasteners, dozens of cigar boxes with stuff in them. I donated a couple of truckloads to the Habitat for Humanity thrift store. Oh, and lots of spiders, Dad wasn't active in the garage for many years, so the brown recluse, and black widows had gotten quite comfortable there.

I enlisted my adult sons to help, we knocked it out on several Saturday mornings, had a lot of fun laughing at some of the stuff we found, and talking about Dad. They got to pick through tools and items to keep at the same time.
 

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If you remove the paints/chemicals properly, try to document as much of that as necessary. When my dad passed we did bring a dumpster, three 30 yard dumpsters to be exact and that didn't include the donations, 3 scrap metal pickups, Craigslist sales, yard sale, furniture, etc., etc.

Anyway, he had a bit above what you'd expect of household chemicals. We got lucky and the town had a collection during the time, so I loaded up my pickup and we were good. What you have to watch out for is liability against your dad, or his subsequent estate. Sorry, I don't mean to be grim, but you have to prepare/protect the future.

I wish you the best of luck. We had a gang of family members at the house each day, big and small, each doing their part to clear things out. We actually bonded a bit to be honest. Once everyone had the few items they wanted, we sold what we could, then we had an auction house come and buy everything else. The deal was, "back to the rafters". The auction house lost on that deal. There was enough hardware/tools/material inside the home to fill a hardware store, but the time/effort they put in to clearing out that house was enormous. The owner's son is who I dealt with and he said he hates the business!
 

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This has been said before. Post your location. There are many people who could help, if they knew where you are. You might be right down the road from me, and I could help. I helped my wife clean her mothers' house after she died a few years ago.
 

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If you find new/unopened cellulose or acrylic lacquer paints, those have some value. Hard to get and still legal in most states. Advertise it in the HAMB or CL.


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Remember he is most likely going to have sentimental attachment to things you will not understand.

And he also may not have any emotional attachment to some things as well. It's good he's still around, keep him involved in the cleanout and he can tell you which things are worth keeping, what should be tossed, and also any stories that need to be known about specific items.
 

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It will be special time spent with your Dad if you involve him. My Dad sold all his stuff off when I lived here in the U.S. and he was in Canada. Regret that I wasn't there.
 

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My dad's garage was like an archaeological dig with layers of stuff he got. A tune up kit, buried and then another one same part number beneath where he lost it and had to buy another one. We all know just how you feel.

The cool stuff he had his hands on might well be kept, like the patina'd body dolly or body hammers, the knarly but favorite wrenches etc. Then stashed in one of his tool boxes, closed up to keep the good spirits inside.
 

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my grandpa had a similar backstory - I don't think he ever got rid of a partial can of paint.

Hazmat pickup is a godsend in this type of case. You may need to reach out to every friend and family member to break the trips down to the maximum they will allow from each person.

I recommend pulling any mix info off of the cans- he probably is somewhere still listed as a "small waste generator" which he owns the environmental impacts of that paint cradle to grave.

Small partials can be opened and allowed to harden in the can and disposed of in landfill.

You can also spread it out onto a sheet of plywood and let it dry and discard to the dump, or sell as the next jackson pollack.

Tools are probably past the age that a school will take it but hobbiest might be interested - garage sale is probably fastest way to make a dent in it. CL will bring more money but will **** time like no end if you try to list everything. I would pick the few valuable items and list to see if you can bring a bit more for them.

For the work my dad, aunt and uncle put in the money they got for thousands of dollars of tools was a pittance but they didn't have to take it all to the dump.
 

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When I went through my dad's stuff...after he passed...I was looking for things that I knew he charised.

He was a machinist for a time...and when I was a boy he had me take apart and reassemble a 57' Ford Fairlane 6 cylinder engine, start to finish, by myself. He machined everything and had me put it all back together in the car.

I wanted some of those tools from that project for me to remember him...and the tools he liked to talk about too.

I donated the things I didn't need or want...gave some to friends and the rest of the junk I tossed.

My mom loved that I did that...my wife thought I was a bit nuts because the tools are worthless...to anyone but me...

Do what feels right for you...and your situation...
 

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When my significant others great aunt went into assisted living we started clearing out her house. Her husband (dead for 20 years) had fishing party boats, he bought out closing
hardware stores or marinas boat paint, no matter what color. I took an 8 foot bed truck
full to haz waste, I don't think they believed me it all came from a residence but they took
it all.
I have to get down to Florida to clean out my Dad's garage, Not sure what we will do with his tools etc, probably to expensive to ship up to CT.
 

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I had a similar situation to deal with a while back, except it was two generations' worth -- my Grandpa's stuff plus my Dad's. And Grandma (who had passed several years before Grandpa) was a hoarder too and most of her stuff was still there.

We filled a total of 80 yards' worth of dumpsters with garbage. Seven old Dodge vans got junked and we gave away three running Dodge vans (Dad specified who should get these before he passed). There was an RV, a huge pile of assorted scrap, Grandma's hoard of thousands of egg cartons, hundreds of old spark plugs (why?), etc.

Anyway. One of the things that made this mess remotely manageable was a couple of local scrappers who appeared one day. They had noticed Dad basically had a small junkyard going and had actually stopped and talked to my Dad several months back. He told them to buzz off, but they noticed some new people were there...

Long story short, we agreed on a 50/50 split. They'd haul scrap (and junk cars, etc.) wherever they could get the best prices, bring me the receipt from the junkyard to verify and hand me half the cash.

Those guys worked like beasts for two solid weeks, and we all came out with a very decent chunk of change.

So to sum up:

1) Find some good scrappers to work with. They'll know where and how to get the best prices, what and how to separate, where to take a vehicle with no title, etc. This may be easier said than done, of course. Scrappers can be... interesting people.

2) As others have said, deal properly with HHW (Hazardous Household Waste). Just about every county or town has an agency or department to handle these situations.

3) Give family a firm deadline to get in, get what they want, then get out. Bring in an auction house ASAP.

4) Look into hiring pros to clean, haul, mow, and take care of the property until it's sold or transferred. We tried to do waaaaay too much ourselves.

5) Before you do anything that requires signing anything or spending money, work with a good LOCAL lawyer experienced with estates. We went to Grandpa's lawyer, a gent well into his '90s who had worked with the family for over 60 years, and his advice and advanced knowledge of local quirks saved us many, many thousands of dollars and untold time and hassle. At several points I told him "I think I could kiss you right now", and he deadpanned "that's an extra $100..."
 
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Where are you located? If close, I'd be interested in seeing what you have.
 

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Just so you know, paint is really easy to dispose of, you pour it out onto cardboard and when it dries, throw it out.
 

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If you find new/unopened cellulose or acrylic lacquer paints, those have some value. Hard to get and still legal in most states. Advertise it in the HAMB or CL.

Or here (or over on the Fordbarn board)... I know a lot of old car people who would pay a pretty penny for original paint, if for no other reason than to match it for posterity. Once those are gone, they are gone for good... We have one bike club member whose granddad happened to have a can of Harley Olive touch up paint... he was able to get an exact match to a color that hasn't been around for ages (and settled the question of "what was Harley Davidson Olive back in the 20's?"...
 

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When Mom passed, it took me a year to get to the point that I was ready to let the place go. I had already pulled out most of the valuables and heirlooms, and I had already sold most of Dad's larger woodworking machines. I called a good estate company, 2 teachers and their husbands. The deal was 70-30 split. They worked 3 weeks getting ready for the sale. They ended up pulling in $10,000 for a 3 day sale in a town of 1100 people. They earned every penny of that $3000. I couldn't have done it. I couldn't even watch.
 
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Update all the paint and chemicals has been long gone for some time. toms of smalls and lots of boxes, bags and etc of hardware store screws, nuts and bolts......just pulled out a 1920s armature lathe flat belt style and nos packard dipstick
 

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My Dad passed away in February at 93 years old, WWII Vet. I am going thru his stuff in the garage now: tools, old things he had (he was a typewriter mechanic back in the day and typewriters required some of the craziest tools you would ever see). He didn't have a ton of stuff, but it was his. I thought about it and figured the best thing to do would be to combine his stuff with my stuff; he hated to throw things out and I believe he would like to see me use his tools along with my stuff. Things are coming along pretty good; got the Craftsman tool chest and box arranged, his Proto tool chest, some of the cabinets. I think he would have been proud to see it, and that's what counts the most.
 

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Oh god how I can relate to your task. I'm moving into Dads place, sadly he has passed before I could get to move there, was hoping to work through his stuff with him to reminisce about his and my collections and past jobs. Now I have all his lathes and mills etc and so much stuff.
Anyone need any Subaru Brumby / Brat parts??? I think we have stripped about 15 of the little buggers.
Annoyingly one of his grand kids and a partner of one seem to think its worth a fortune not realising that most is obsolete and only valuable to someone that can operate the machines,I'm cautious they will want a hand out and not contribute to the clean up.
The best I can suggest is pile each item of a similar description in the same place so you can see if any one of those things is better than the others like it and worth keeping or chucking out.
Good luck and keep focused.
 

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When my Father-in-law passed away, our story rivaled many of yours: 3 dumpsters, multiple trips to the local hazardous waste facility, I took so many old tires to a local tire dealer that he eventually stopped charging me.

One story that's worth mentioning. He had a room for all his old paint cans. There were shelves all around the walls and it was packed floor to ceiling. In the center of the room was his furnace!!! How that place never burned to the ground is a mystery I'll never solve!

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Dad is nearly 90 and still doing good (still drives and lives alone after mom died) but he wants to clear out stuff. He owned a garage and paint and body shop decades ago and when it was shut down brought it all home now I have to go thru it sort it out and dispose of it for him.

Now it is tuff but I am sure some of you have gone thru this before so........Please offer positive advice and what/who to watch out for....Thank You

You are lucky that your dad actually "wants" to clear out stuff. My dad was quite resistant but eventually he became more willing, especially when he couldn't navigate the steps to his basement workshop.

One thing that my sister did that really pi$$ed him off was take his old Craftsman and Montgomery Wards screwdrivers and give them to her boyfriend without telling anyone. Sure, the screwdrivers weren't collectors items and he would likely never use them but he really felt violated.

One suggestion that someone made that was helpful - get colored dots and place them on stuff you want. One color for each family member. Makes it easier to divvy things up.
 

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The right auction/auctioneer will get rid of all of it at once, and you'll get a check.

Make sure they advertise well (do your homework on auctioneer) and you advertise the auction too on CL, boards, wherever.
 

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I spent 7 years, going thruogh my dads shop, as there was THAT MUCH stuff...

First and foremost:

1) Craigslist is a useful tool. Give away any toxic substances on craigslist. Free. Part of the issue with taking these chemicals to 'official' locations is your often limited on quanity. And if you happen to say 'too much' could open an ugly can of worms as many municipalities dont want their residents to have gallons of highly toxic/explosive stuff on hand.

Best to let CL take it. Over 7 years, I gave away over 1,000 gallons of paints and other stuff.

2) Becareful with craigslist, and do your homework on anything you decide to sell on CL. Be aware that there are A LOT of shady, and otherwise 'not good people' on CL. In 7 years of selling tools and equipment on CL, I only had to call the police once.

3) Before selling on CL make sure the building is 100% secure, incase anyone decides to 'come back' If your going to sell from the garage, use drop cloths or blankets to hide stuff... People are wierd. Its up to you to know the current retail, wholesale, and used market prices of everything your selling.

4) Clean up whatever you plan to sell, youll get more money for it.

5) You can donate a lot. Many school districts will take it, you may even be able to wiggle your way into a school tax deduction. Due to time constraints, when I moved I didnt bother with the tax deduction, but did donate well over 3,000 board feet of top quality lumber to the local schools.

6) If your going the dumpster route, try to find a local outfit that rents dumpsters. We went thru 7 20 yard dumpsters in 8 weeks. @ $300 per dumpster - paid in cash.

7) If you decide to give stuff away on craigslist make sure you list it accordingly. For instance, if it cant fit into a car/minivan make sure you point that out. Also, leave a phone number, email takes too long. Be prepared to receive tens, if not hundreds of phone calls. And about 40% will want you to 'hold it' for them. Dont hold it.. The idea is to get rid of it.

8) dont tell people anything about anything. The less people know about your situation the better.

9) garage sales and estate sales are a waste of your time and money. People visiting such sales want a $500 tool for $20. and if you go with any of those estate sales people that manage those sales, their people generally have not a clue as to what anything is worth. For instance last week end I picked up a box for of hand tools, worth around $500, for $5. because the cash out lady had no clue.

10) with dad still around, gives you a very unique oppertunity to learn, make sure you make use of that oppertunity and gather as much information as you can

Last note on chemicals, due to the EPA the rules and guide lines on the use of chemicals for different applications has changed significantly since the 1990's. Donating chemicals, old paints ect to the local schools, sounds great on paper, but can lead to an epic nightmare. First off, esp with the autmotive end of it, many of those solvents and paints, require PPE, and many schools wont want to deal with the possible liability issues... second problem, is if you have a lot of this on hand, the school board WILL inform such people as the building inspector... or worse the fire marshal and the police.... All of which leads to huge head aches, wasted time, and money.

disposing large quanities of chemicals is EXPENSIVE. Let someone on craigslist deal with it.

The right auction/auctioneer will get rid of all of it at once, and you'll get a check.

Make sure they advertise well (do your homework on auctioneer) and you advertise the auction too on CL, boards, wherever.

Auctions are great for people that need to liquidate assets fast, but realize you will only receive pennies on the dollar for stuff... the auctioneer takes a cut, and the stuff that you sell, will go cheap. It was an option I explored in the beginning til I found out that, a 3 box tool chest, loaded to the hilt with S&K, snap on, mac, and craftsman, would go for less than $1,000.

One of my dads good friends took me to a couple tool auctions, and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of tools were going for 10-15 cents on the dollar ON THE HIGH END... screw that.
 
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Just did this for my dad. We used a junk removal company and had the whole house done before lunch. We kept what we wanted and they got the rest. Well worth the investment.
 

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Lot of folks of that age and Depression era have a habit of squirreling cash or valuables all over the place. May not even remember doing so. Check EVERYTHING thoroughly before throwing, giving or selling anything.
 

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I went through this with my dad as he started going downhill with Alzheimers. It took quite a bit of time to go through it and get rid of everything. I picked out the few things that I wanted. When it comes down to it, yes this stuff was my dad's and he cherished some of it, but at the end it is just stuff.

We did a yard sale right off the bat to sell tools and equipment. I listed some of the big items (table saw, car trailer, etc., separately on Craigslist). All of the chemicals, fasteners and scrap lumber went for free. I had a scrapper come by and pick up everything metal.
The men's ministry at church took most of everything left over to sell in their annual fund raiser.
The last little bit of stuff was junk and trash and it went into the dumpster.

I didn't mind having people come around to look, because they bought things I hadn't though about selling, i.e. pile of redwood that used to be a gazebo and a bird bath.
 

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Lot of folks of that age and Depression era have a habit of squirreling cash or valuables all over the place. May not even remember doing so. Check EVERYTHING thoroughly before throwing, giving or selling anything.

Three weeks ago, my wife and I went to an estate sale. My wife found a bible in a box in the main bathroom. She likes old books, and had never seen this type bible. She opened it up and started finding money. She took it to the woman running the show and gave it to her. She was very greatful. When we left, they were up to $800 in an assortment of bills. The woman who was supposed to be checking inside the books hadn't done her job.
 

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I cleaned my dads garage out a few years ago. I liked going through his stuff. Was the only one with that attitude.
 
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