Rated ///M
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Been looking to expand my metalworking. Not too familiar with this MFG. Worth it?
http://mankato.craigslist.org/tls/5733640457.html
http://mankato.craigslist.org/tls/5733640457.html
Good deal on this mill?
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Zeke
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I don't know **** about mills, etc. but being a combo and with some tooling it sounds interesting enough to go take a look.
davidhansen
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No harm in checking it out! Sounds great to me.
dr_clyde
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That looks neat. Seems like a reasonable price.
ptschram
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Go buy it!
I'd kill for one
I'd kill for one
NedNorton
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Here is the info on the manufacture.
http://www.lathes.co.uk/adcock&shipleyhorizontal/page2.html
If it is in good shape, and you can live without the quill, you have a winner. Good company with a good history of making real machines. Price is very dependent on location. The "I got a Bridgeport for $200 that cut plastic it's entire life" just doesn't happen here. OMMV. If you have limited space to throw at shaving metal, this is a good choice. 40 taper makes getting additional tooling a breeze. I would look to see if it comes with the all the attachments to convert it to a horizontal. Since this is a UK machine in the US it may be hard to find after the fact. Then just the standard stuff when looking at a machine tool; how are the ways, table, screws, spindle bearings etc. Does it all move like it should. It's under power so that's a big plus.
The manual for it is still available from the manufacture according to the archive.
Let us know how it goes... It's a cool machine for the home shop. If it were here in Colorado I would be on my way to go look at it (with a trailer and a stack of $100's, just not 13 of them).
Because there are just some things done better on a horizontal. 
Cheers,
Chris
http://www.lathes.co.uk/adcock&shipleyhorizontal/page2.html
If it is in good shape, and you can live without the quill, you have a winner. Good company with a good history of making real machines. Price is very dependent on location. The "I got a Bridgeport for $200 that cut plastic it's entire life" just doesn't happen here. OMMV. If you have limited space to throw at shaving metal, this is a good choice. 40 taper makes getting additional tooling a breeze. I would look to see if it comes with the all the attachments to convert it to a horizontal. Since this is a UK machine in the US it may be hard to find after the fact. Then just the standard stuff when looking at a machine tool; how are the ways, table, screws, spindle bearings etc. Does it all move like it should. It's under power so that's a big plus.
The manual for it is still available from the manufacture according to the archive.
Let us know how it goes... It's a cool machine for the home shop. If it were here in Colorado I would be on my way to go look at it (with a trailer and a stack of $100's, just not 13 of them).
Because there are just some things done better on a horizontal. Cheers,
Chris
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Jim Johnstone
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Keep in mind this is NOT a knee mill. It does not have a quill, and can't be used to easily drill holes. You won't be setting up a part and drilling/reaming/tapping with this machine.
Eh, would really depend on the included tooling for me. Especially horizontal configuration tooling. Heavy horizontal mills are great for hogging or edge drilling. That is not a heavy machine, and while useful, for those tight on space (most home shops) not the most efficient use of floor space.
Mark in Indiana
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Rated,
One word....YES! As long as the table can move on all 3 axes
The good:
*Single phase. Plug & play.
*Looks in good shape.
*Has the basic accessories.
*Looks like you can set mitnup for horizontal milling.
*Good brand at a reasonable price.
The bad:
*You will need to invest in a vise, hold down clamps and cutting bits.
*You can only tilt the head R to L. It's a limitation that can be fixed with an angle vise. I usually tilt the head on my mill F to B.
* No quill feed. Difficult to perform drilling operations.
There are likely more informed opinions here. IMO it's worth a look and an offer.
Please let us know if you buy it.
One word....YES! As long as the table can move on all 3 axes
The good:
*Single phase. Plug & play.
*Looks in good shape.
*Has the basic accessories.
*Looks like you can set mitnup for horizontal milling.
*Good brand at a reasonable price.
The bad:
*You will need to invest in a vise, hold down clamps and cutting bits.
*You can only tilt the head R to L. It's a limitation that can be fixed with an angle vise. I usually tilt the head on my mill F to B.
* No quill feed. Difficult to perform drilling operations.
There are likely more informed opinions here. IMO it's worth a look and an offer.
Please let us know if you buy it.
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If your a first time buyer I would suggest that you keep looking. Something in that add is hinky to me as the seller is not a machinist. It looks to be missing a hand wheel on the table. The collets shown are an odd form so tooling may be difficult. It looks to have power feed on both X&Y which is good but the seller says only X, How come? If it does not have power on the knee then boring with the vertical head is difficult to very tedious. No quill and no powered knee makes drilling a labor. That said Adcock and Shiply is a good name in the machining world, but make sure that it is an English and not metric machine if that is what you work in.
That said I do have a Horz mill with most of the bells and whistles and also a bridgport style mill. I would give up the horz before the knee mill. Your going to find that tooling that machine up will probably run 2x what an R8 machine will.
So I will say again, I would not recommend that as a first machine. If it were a tooled machine with vise, cutters, arbors, and such then I would be so so on suggesting it. But as it sets for a first machine I don't.
lg
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That said I do have a Horz mill with most of the bells and whistles and also a bridgport style mill. I would give up the horz before the knee mill. Your going to find that tooling that machine up will probably run 2x what an R8 machine will.
So I will say again, I would not recommend that as a first machine. If it were a tooled machine with vise, cutters, arbors, and such then I would be so so on suggesting it. But as it sets for a first machine I don't.
lg
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rsanter
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That machine will have limited use and limited appeal.
With that said I'm betting you can get some good work done on that.
I suspect it will be a slow seller so I would want to get it for under $1000
Bob
With that said I'm betting you can get some good work done on that.
I suspect it will be a slow seller so I would want to get it for under $1000
Bob