Gooseneck light source

[redtail]

Hi All,
I'm looking to order 3 standard gooseneck lights for the front of my garage in this style:

The only place I've found them locally is $240 each - I think I should be able to get 3 for that price! Any ideas where I should look?
Thanks

 

[Striker]

Check this out:

http://www.affordablequalitylighting.com/docs/outdoor/wall/utility/pwsv925/index.html

I haven't bought from them, but others have on the forum (that's where I got the link). I've always kept it bookmarked for the day we build our new barn/garage.


EDIT:
It seems you can no longer buy just one. They now sell them in 2 packs for $99.00 (49.50 each).

 

[redtail]

Hey striker, thanks for the link and I called the company and they are sold only in packs of two but it's $99/lamp so $200 for a pack of 2.

I turned these guys up for $36/lamp - not exactly what i'm looking for but pretty cheap
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009J1I12/?tag=atomicindus08-20

May end up with them and bend my own goosenecks. My budget certainly does not stretch to $700-$1000 for lights right now.

 

[redtail]

found some for $135 each
http://www.loveitlighting.com/cgi-bin/get_fixture.pl?fix_pic=gooseneck/23-14-857.jpg

not sure about the quality though...

 

[Stuart in MN]

I haven't checked their prices, but these guys are one of the sponsors of the Garage Journal web page: http://www.barnlightelectric.com/

 

[redtail]

Thanks stewart, I checked there but it looks like they run about $330 each which is out of my price range. I'm sure the quality is excellent though!

 

[TONE]

Menards sells them for $35.00

Not a typo either

 

[redtail]

Dang we don't have Menards out here on the west coast

edit, I'm looking on their online store but can't find the light anywhere, you wouldn't happen to know the right name or item number offhand wouldya?

At this point I'm thinking i'll probably get the $35 lights above and just bend my own goosenecks out of conduit.

 

[Striker]

Hey striker, thanks for the link and I called the company and they are sold only in packs of two but it's $99/lamp so $200 for a pack of 2.

Well that makes me a bit angry. They were only about $49.00 a while back when I gave the URL to a friend. I wonder why they went up 100%?

 

[ymerej]

Well that makes me a bit angry. They were only about $49.00 a while back when I gave the URL to a friend. I wonder why they went up 100%?

They recently redesigned them (Fall 2009). I know they upped the size of the pipe from 1/2" to 3/4", but I don't know what else they changed. I ordered a pair of the new ones, and they seem to be really nice quality. They have some weight to them, and I think all of the metal is brass - mounting plate, tube, and lens shade. They have also powder coated everything, and in my case it is all a flat black. I only wanted one light, but had to order two because they have them all boxed in pairs. I haven't decided what I'm going to do with my second light, and am still working on getting my electric out to the garage and put the lights up.

Even at $99 each, they're still cheaper than the Barn Light Electric ones. I don't know how nice those are. I expect they are very high quality, possibly even nicer than the ones I have, but these seem to be of very good quality and should last a long time.

 

[thdewey]

Check this out:

http://www.affordablequalitylighting.com/docs/outdoor/wall/utility/pwsv925/index.html

I haven't bought from them, but others have on the forum (that's where I got the link). I've always kept it bookmarked for the day we build our new barn/garage.


EDIT:
It seems you can no longer buy just one. They now sell them in 2 packs for $99.00 (49.50 each).

It looks like thare are $99 each with a minimum order of 2 => $198. When I ordered 2 last year they had a $100 minimum order anyway. So I bouht 2 and a can of their spray-on UV protector. Great deal. I wish that I bought more. Now I want to move the one from the back to the front.

 

[kbs2244]

I think those prices are way out of line.
Any electrician should be able to bend some 3/4 EMT to match that shape for a six pack.
Then some farm store reflectors and you are home.

 

[sam 8]

FWIW;

I bought two of the fixtures at a hot rod swap meet last summer.
They were not perfect, but I wanted the "used look"...for $50 for the pair.
The goosenecks were outrageous $ on the webites. 90 bucks a piece or some such foolishness.
I went to the local hardware, bought 6 ft. of EMT, a bender, and a couple of misc. parts and pieces. Total, $40.00
I went home and bent my own, using a template I made from a coat hanger.

 

[barnlightelectric]

Do a google search on Affordable Quality Lighting:

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Ripoff Report: AFFORDABLE QUALITY LIGHTING They are running a scam ...

In fact I did NOT buy from Affordable quality lighting when I saw them on Consumer Lighting ... Ok Bob, or should I say owner of Affordable Quality Lighting ...
[Site popularity rank: #3,524] www.ripoffreport.com/lighting.../affordable-quality.../affordable-quality-lighting-th-cnbae.htm

At Barn Light Electric you get American Made and Top Commercial Quality. Just as the old saying goes, you get what you paid for.

 

[Striker]

Affordable's web site could use a serious tune up. The darn thing is a disaster.

Anyhow, I got the link to the site from someone else in this forum. Others have posted that they have bought from them as well. I've kept the link handy for when I get ready to order. Barn lights are a popular topic around here so I try to help out by providing the link. Always remember that buying online is "caveat emptor". Never forget to do your research.

I decided to do some research on my own regarding Barn Light's claims. For the record here is their BBB profile:

http://www.la.bbb.org/Business-Report/Affordable-Quality-Lighting-Inc-100062811

They have been a member since February 26, 2008 and have had 2 complaints that were resolved. The BBB's "Trustlink" program has 3 favorable reviews regarding the company. So either they cleaned up their act or there is misinformation out there.

With that in mind there are some "interesting" things I've found. The name change complaint does seem to hold some water after reviewing old domain WHOIS records and some searching around. I can't seem to dig up the BBB records for their other companies. However the BBB purges old membership data from their online database a year or two after a company leaves the BBB (from what I've gathered).

Looks like they have either gotten their act together or they are hit and miss. If it were me I'd now think twice about ordering from them. At the very least use a one time use credit card. If you get the items great! If not you have nothing to worry about as you can cancel a one time use credit card.

 

[CitadelBlue]

I turned these guys up for $36/lamp - not exactly what i'm looking for but pretty cheap
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0009J1I12/?tag=atomicindus08-20

May end up with them and bend my own goosenecks.

I just ordered these myself and installed them yesterday. They come in gray/silver so I put a couple of coats of spray paint on them as well. I was going to bend new conduit as well ...... but the straight stuff install is growing on me ......

 

[CitadelBlue]

FWIW;

I bought two of the fixtures at a hot rod swap meet last summer.
They were not perfect, but I wanted the "used look"...for $50 for the pair.
The goosenecks were outrageous $ on the webites. 90 bucks a piece or some such foolishness.
I went to the local hardware, bought 6 ft. of EMT, a bender, and a couple of misc. parts and pieces. Total, $40.00
I went home and bent my own, using a template I made from a coat hanger.

Did you have to thread both ends or did you use something the slip-on/threaded connector with silicone ?

 

[redtail]

I just ordered these myself and installed them yesterday. They come in gray/silver so I put a couple of coats aof spray paint on them as well. I was going to bend new conduit as well ...... but the straight stuff install is growing on me ......

I ordered a set of these as well and it came out to $34 each shipped. After I mounted them I think I actually like the straight arm better for my application - I'll post some pics in a day or so.

I was quite pleasantly surprised with the quality of the lights, I seriously have no idea what would make a Barn Light Electric worth 10 times the cost. 4 lights for $136 is acceptable, 4 lights for $1400 is completely insane.

One other general gripe about this forum - does anyone else find it extremely annoying when vendors come into a thread and talk trash about competitors and their products? I don't come to Garage Journal for a hard sale or a pitch, I come here for honest opinions of other guys that love their garages!

 

[Costner]

One other general gripe about this forum - does anyone else find it extremely annoying when vendors come into a thread and talk trash about competitors and their products? I don't come to Garage Journal for a hard sale or a pitch, I come here for honest opinions of other guys that love their garages!

I agree - it doesn't make me want to shop somewhere just because someone registers a new account just to bash their competition. If someone offers a higher quality product and offers good customer service, their reputation will speak for itself and I'm smart enough to do my own unbiased research.

There are a lot of good vendors on this forum (there are people representing Racedeck, Wolverine, Gladiator Garage, Snap-On etc) that go out of their way to help forum members, but there have also been a few like this that just go out of their way to bash others. That doesn't impress me in the slightest and I'm less likely to do business with a company that uses such a strategy.

 

[barnlightelectric]

Redtail & Costner,

If you are offended because I listed honest information in order to protect consumers on this site, then please accept my apology. I have never once even attempted to direct anyone from garage journal to purchase from us.

However, many have purchased and if they mention they came from Garage Journal I always give them a discount and try to help anyway Possible.

Just to set the record straight, I did not bash anyone, but just brought to the forums attention about a business that has wronged numerous consumers and is visible with a simple google search.

I understand that our prices are sometime out of reach from the typical homeowner/consumer, but we manufacturer only commercial grade lighting that is extremely costly to produce here in the USA, but will last a lifetime. We do not and never will import our barn lighting from overseas because of quality issues.

Another source is ebay and do a search for "gas station lighting", possibly you can find original warehouse shades from the 20's and 30's that you can retro-fit onto your structure. Same concept, it was American Made and is still around today.

I wish you all the best in your search for barn lighting,

Bryan - Barn Light Electric Company

 

[Costner]

Fair enough - and I will admit paying a little more for a product made in the US is worth a few bucks. To find something that is commercial grade is just that much better. I like to only have to buy things once, so when you calculate out the total cost paying more up front will often times pay off in spades.

 

[Ryan]

Barn Light Electric sponsored The Garage Journal for over a year. I've dealt with them quite a bit... And have bought their products on two occasions. My last purchase was a galvanized barn pendent with a 24" or 32" (can't remember now) shade. I paid over $500 for it. It's a huge industrial light.

Admittedly, that's a lot of dough for a barn pendent. When it arrived, I realized that you often get what you pay for. The quality was off the charts. I don't know if they metal spin these things or stamp them, but they are perfect in terms of shape and finish. And the hardware included is about as nice as you can get - none of that cheap **** that often comes with Home Depot lights, etc...

Anyway, Barn Light no longer advertises with us. And I have no motive at all to give these folks a more positive review than they deserve, but if I'm buying vintage styled lighting in the future, I'm buying it from Barn Light.

 

[Diavolicchio]

. . .we manufacturer only commercial grade lighting that is extremely costly to produce here in the USA, but will last a lifetime. We do not and never will import our barn lighting from overseas because of quality issues.

Bryan - Barn Light Electric Company

Bryan:

You don't manufacture the vast majority of fixtures you sell; you're simply a distributor of most. You also tack a hefty mark-up onto things. I know, because I've priced out your fixtures elsewhere. All one needs to do is to visit your website and compare your offerings to those in the Hi-Lite Mfg Co. catalog.

Beautiful website, by the way, and I'd imagine costly too.

I understand you're running a business and mark-ups are essential to you making money. But at least be honest with people about who makes what.


John

 

[dougmac]

I bought from these guys .... still around two hundred bones. The shipping was free... that helped but it still seemed like a lot of money.

http://www.lightingdirect.com/index.cfm?page=search:browse&collection=ANP+Lighting+Warehouse

 

[TXShelbyman]

Resurrecting a dead thread. I was looking for some gooseneck garage lights and came across these. 129.99 on sale. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200485122_200485122

 

[Spudd dud]

Hi everyone, Just joined The Garage Journal today to shed some light on this topic (pun intended).

Anyways, I've read this thread numerous times and no one ever said they tried to make these gooseneck stems. Well I just did!

*see attached photos*

No on to how I did it.

First off, in looking out there no one shows how to make these stems or what to make them out of so I started to look at local stores (I live in Eau Claire WI - the home of Menards). I found the same lights that have been talked about previously on this thread but everyone just gave into the straight tube stem.

I will admit a lot of Menards stuff is questionable on quality (kind of between Harbor Tool and Northern tool) but these lights from Patriot Lighting (Model Number: BL14CW) appear to be a pretty good deal at $24.97. The shade is good size, but not completely smooth - can see ribs from being spun, the stem mount and wall mounts are simple and sound - the stem mount looks to be cast and polished, and the light socket is actually ceramic with a 300 watt rating.

Straight stems may work for some people but not me, I'm determined and stubborn, when I have a vision, it's gonna happen and a little tube is not going to get in my way!!

So after I got the 3 light fixtures (for the shade, wiring and wall mount) I also picked up 3 pieces of 1/2" X 48" threaded conduit @ ~$2.50 apiece (fits perfectly into the shade and wall mount threaded attachments) and a 3/4" ideal brand conduit/pipe bender (~$44). All in the electrical department and costing about $150 total.

Once I had my materials I set out to get my shape. Taking a 4' length of string, I laid out my shape using the bender as my guide for the radius ~6" centerline radius. I'd like to note that instead of having the light point straight down I wanted it kicked a little toward the building so that it doesn't blind me driving down the driveway. I have access to CAD so I took my rough dimensions and made a template to follow for all of the lights (see attached photo) (using your original string or tracing it onto plywood would work as well). If space is a constraint a 36" length of pipe would work as well.

1. To bend the pipe, mark out the outer straight lengths, for mine it was 9.5" for the shade side and 9" on the wall mount side.

2. Next I found it easiest to bend the gooseneck first so locate the arrow and line it up with mark on the tube. Then bend the pipe to 90 degrees, it's not super easy to bend but it's not hard.

3. Next slide the bender down the pipe along the bend and locate the bender so it is just at the end of the first bend (too far and you will have a flat spot not enough and the bender will slip - error on not far enough). keep bending until you have the desired bend (I had to bend the pipe 150 degrees).

NOTE: make sure to check your part to the template regularly to make sure the bends are the right angle.

4. The small angle is next to bend, in checking your template mark where the bend starts from the big bend side, the other end of the bend should already be marked.

5. The trick to the small bend is that it needs to be bent the opposite direction from the big bend. Make sure the tube is rotated opposite and slide the bender to the mark just made with the short stub being behind the foot on the bender.

NOTE: To do this bend and not mess up the big bend, put the stub on the second step of a set of stairs and stand on the bender. Because it's a short stub your bending you may need to jump in it a little (at 220 lb I had to).

6. Once you have your shape and it matches your template, make sure it is flat by placing it on a table and find the high spots, use your bender to tweak the conduit side to side as needed to make it flat.

Now I know this seems like a lot but I was able to make all 3 stems in about an hour and a half tops and the plus side YOU GET A TOOL OUT OF THE DEAL!!! By making a template you get really good repeatability. I just did these last night so they don't have the cream colored paint yet and they aren't mounted but I will update as I have them done to show how they turn out.

If anyone has questions on how I did this and needs help or if you don't have the confidence to do it let me know and I might be able to whip up some more.

 

[rsnip988]

Hi everyone, Just joined The Garage Journal today to shed some light on this topic (pun intended).

Anyways, I've read this thread numerous times and no one ever said they tried to make these gooseneck stems. Well I just did!

*see attached photos*

No on to how I did it.

First off, in looking out there no one shows how to make these stems or what to make them out of so I started to look at local stores (I live in Eau Claire WI - the home of Menards). I found the same lights that have been talked about previously on this thread but everyone just gave into the straight tube stem.

I will admit a lot of Menards stuff is questionable on quality (kind of between Harbor Tool and Northern tool) but these lights from Patriot Lighting (Model Number: BL14CW) appear to be a pretty good deal at $24.97. The shade is good size, but not completely smooth - can see ribs from being spun, the stem mount and wall mounts are simple and sound - the stem mount looks to be cast and polished, and the light socket is actually ceramic with a 300 watt rating.

Straight stems may work for some people but not me, I'm determined and stubborn, when I have a vision, it's gonna happen and a little tube is not going to get in my way!!

So after I got the 3 light fixtures (for the shade, wiring and wall mount) I also picked up 3 pieces of 1/2" X 48" threaded conduit @ ~$2.50 apiece (fits perfectly into the shade and wall mount threaded attachments) and a 3/4" ideal brand conduit/pipe bender (~$44). All in the electrical department and costing about $150 total.

Once I had my materials I set out to get my shape. Taking a 4' length of string, I laid out my shape using the bender as my guide for the radius ~6" centerline radius. I'd like to note that instead of having the light point straight down I wanted it kicked a little toward the building so that it doesn't blind me driving down the driveway. I have access to CAD so I took my rough dimensions and made a template to follow for all of the lights (see attached photo) (using your original string or tracing it onto plywood would work as well). If space is a constraint a 36" length of pipe would work as well.

1. To bend the pipe, mark out the outer straight lengths, for mine it was 9.5" for the shade side and 9" on the wall mount side.

2. Next I found it easiest to bend the gooseneck first so locate the arrow and line it up with mark on the tube. Then bend the pipe to 90 degrees, it's not super easy to bend but it's not hard.

3. Next slide the bender down the pipe along the bend and locate the bender so it is just at the end of the first bend (too far and you will have a flat spot not enough and the bender will slip - error on not far enough). keep bending until you have the desired bend (I had to bend the pipe 150 degrees).

NOTE: make sure to check your part to the template regularly to make sure the bends are the right angle.

4. The small angle is next to bend, in checking your template mark where the bend starts from the big bend side, the other end of the bend should already be marked.

5. The trick to the small bend is that it needs to be bent the opposite direction from the big bend. Make sure the tube is rotated opposite and slide the bender to the mark just made with the short stub being behind the foot on the bender.

NOTE: To do this bend and not mess up the big bend, put the stub on the second step of a set of stairs and stand on the bender. Because it's a short stub your bending you may need to jump in it a little (at 220 lb I had to).

6. Once you have your shape and it matches your template, make sure it is flat by placing it on a table and find the high spots, use your bender to tweak the conduit side to side as needed to make it flat.

Now I know this seems like a lot but I was able to make all 3 stems in about an hour and a half tops and the plus side YOU GET A TOOL OUT OF THE DEAL!!! By making a template you get really good repeatability. I just did these last night so they don't have the cream colored paint yet and they aren't mounted but I will update as I have them done to show how they turn out.

If anyone has questions on how I did this and needs help or if you don't have the confidence to do it let me know and I might be able to whip up some more.

Sorry to resurrect a long dead thread, but thanks everyone for all of the info. Spudd, did you ever get a pic of them mounted?