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Graco HVLP Sprayers... Bleh.

carbureted iron

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Graco solicited my opinion of their brand and their products via an email that led to an online questionnaire. It's generally a less than positive indication of brand health when a company spends resources on this sort of thing. Anyone else get one of these email?

Thirty years ago I bought a Graco cart HVLP sprayer after a recommendation from a body shop. When the post-job cleanup procedure was followed the thing never failed to perform superbly upon next use. Repair was limited to seals, which were easily--and inexpensively--sourced thru a Graco reseller (pre-www). When Graco released their prosumer line of handheld sprayers, I bought one. It was hurty-expensive; but i tempered the buy-once-cry-once philosophy with my prior excellent experience. That thing was great.

Years later I needed to replace a blown seal in the handheld. Graco had revised their parts policies such that I now had to purchase a "kit" which contained a bunch of superfluous parts, effectively charging ~$100 for a $1.50 neoprene o-ring. The clamshell eventually developed a crack; Graco wanted $100 for a replacement clamshell (I leaned how to weld plastic.) When a more serious failure developed, I learned through company rep that Graco had drastically reduced the type of parts it made available to a mere handful, and raised the prices.

Quality has seemingly taken a turn for the worse. Graco switched from glass fiber-filled nylon clamshells to crappy ABS plastic. Graco has replaced the metal pump housing in their HVLP sprayers with plastic, ostensibly to shave weight--a welcome improvement--though I have my doubts about product longevity. They also release a version without a motor that straps to a cordless drill. I thought it was a cool concept until I tried the thing. Bleh. And not one of the expensive spray-tips I invested in fit the new sprayers. Oy, Graco... what happened to you.

Each of my three Graco sprayers molder in states of disrepair somewhere in my garage attic. Maybe Titan products offer hope; though given the lineage of that brand, I doubt it. Testimonials for prosumer-level HVLP sprayers are appreciated.

Anyway...
I completed the survey, and in doing so I get entered into a raffle for a $100 Graco gift card in exchange for leaving ranting comments (similar to above) AND to be spammed by whomever they sell my demographics and contact info to.
 
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I clicked on one of their ads on TicToc. The ad had looked good, their site was good and I found a dealer in the area..

I went to their dealer in area. The dealer did not have the time of day for me. I was interested in the latest and greatest. It was a chunk of money. It's also available at Home Depot and their staff is not knowledgeable. I subsequently posted a negative comment about my experience and they started arguing with me.
 

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-That's disappointing to hear of the decline. I worked part time in the machine shop at Graco (Belmont Ave. in Franklin Park) in the 80's, quality control was important back then.
 
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carbureted iron

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I have no doubt.

I befriended two old-timer Graco machinists, Ben and Patrick, who had been relegated to tech support. Once they let their guard down, they were more open to share their lamentations about the degradation of the company over their respective decades of employment. Graco changed from a privately-held, family-founded company to one where majority ownership was turned over to institutional investors. A new BOD hired an outside CEO who focused on profits for shareholders at the consequence of both the company's culture and its products.
 
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Many companies are moving to selling kits or whole assemblies, rather than those individual penny-priced parts. You probably could've gotten that O-ring elsewhere.

With the minimal amount of time it took to spray both my shed and shop, even if I never use my Graco sprayer again I'm glad I bought it. It's paid for itself already in my opinion.
 

Bunsen Honeydew

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I have no doubt.

I befriended two old-timer Graco machinists, Ben and Patrick, who had been relegated to tech support. Once they let their guard down, they were more open to share their lamentations about the degradation of the company over their respective decades of employment. Graco changed from a privately-held, family-founded company to one where majority ownership was turned over to institutional investors. A new BOD hired an outside CEO who focused on profits for shareholders at the consequence of both the company's culture and its products.
IMHO, "value for the shareholders" has been a big part of the downfall of many corporations, particularly when run by institutional investors. They are looking for short term wins, not the future of the company, or of the employees. No concern for the business itself for the long term, because they will liquidate rather than fix issues.
 

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I have an older Spray-tech and a Titan HVLP. Entry level sized pro tools. I haven't used either all that much but bought a Graco cage and use Graco spray tips on them. Wanted a Graco when I bought the Titan but it was significantly more expensive and couldn't justify given how often I use it (not much). I'm happy with them. The Titan has a much beefier pump section that supposedly can be replaced in field which may be a good feature for a pro using them daily. I also have a Graco handheld and small HVLP airless consumer models from Home Depot. They both work fine for smallish jobs. Quality wise I'm assuming ABS plastic. So far has held up fine but I don't use them that often.
 

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I remember selling them to painters back in the mid-90's. They were built like tanks back then. It's a shame their quality has apparently gone down.

The only times I saw them returned for repair were when painters would leave water in the pump and lines when it got below freezing at night. We told them over and over to flush them out with water and replace the water with thinner in the winter, but most would say..."But I left it out of the weather in my van last night."
 
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Bunsen Honeydew

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Private equity group Sycamore Partners bought Walgreens in August and now announced elimination of holiday pay for hourly workers. I'm sure the workers have been told how they are valued, and essential to the company. That's the line (lie) I was fed before the private equity company cut my pay (at a different retail corp.) by $5.00 an hour.
Fortunately I was of retirement age, so I walked.
My pay cut would have happened Jan 13 this year. The company was gone by September.
Sadly, many of my friends ended up at Walgreens.
IMHO, "value for the shareholders" has been a big part of the downfall of many corporations, particularly when run by institutional investors. They are looking for short term wins, not the future of the company, or of the employees. No concern for the business itself for the long term, because they will liquidate rather than fix issues.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled thread.
 
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