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tarmy

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I love them. I have a place in the mountains where the wind blows hard. They solve the wind driven rain and leaking problem.
 

kabinenroller

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i have them on my house garage door 15x7 and one of my shop doors 10x8. They work as advertised, no more wind pushing the door away from the jamb seals.
 

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I’ve been wanting to get them after reading about them here. With the increased gas and electric costs this year I need to do it and not just think about it. Thanks for the reminder.
 
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Issue with my setup is my doors are 8 panels and they only have them for 6 and 7. Lester said just use the 7 and omit one more panel, but that sort of defeats the purpose I'd think?

My Dad was saying door rough in should be same as door, that make sense? The several doors I've worked on, the rough it in was always a little smaller. IE a 10ft door, opening was maybe 9ft 10in. Gave an inch on each side for the door to rest on teh wall
 

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I would think Lester would sell you what you need even if it is not the standard amount. When I ordered my hinges by phone he was very talkative, no hurry to end the conversation.
 
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I would think Lester would sell you what you need even if it is not the standard amount. When I ordered my hinges by phone he was very talkative, no hurry to end the conversation.
They are special designs and can't use 2 sets of #7s I guess. Not sure My middle panels are tight to the wall, just the very top and very bottom that aren't. I've adjusted as best as possible
 

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So a big shout out to Green Hinges. I have a Wayne Dalton door and the track is riveted in and the hinges are those narrow 3+ inch pinch-less hinges.
I talked to Lester and he will not say anything about using the hinges for a Wayne Dalton door for liability I'm sure. He did direct me to a you tube video of a guy who modified them to work.

I watched the video, seems easy. I then bought the hinges plus some #1 garage hinges for the center. This makes the axis equal to the green hinges
https://www.garagedoorstuff.com/product/garage-door-hinge/
20 for less than 1 dollar a piece

I used a paper stencil to get the right size along with trying to line up the axis of the green hinge with the door. Once I figured that out. I cut the hinge with my band saw I then had two templates to cut the rest with.

Getting them on the door was a snap. I had to drill new holes thankfully the new holes where no where near the old ones.( I worried about that.) My only gripe was Wayne Dalton uses a torx screws and 1/2 inch screws on each hinge. Annoying.

Lastly, I was worried that the green hinges would be too tight. They do sit about 1/4 to 1/8 inch higher than the wayne dalton hinges. meaning the roller distance fully compressed on the green hinge still sits higher. I compared the #1 #2 and #3 and they were all a little high. Truthfully I almost abandoned the mod when I checked that measurement. I figured I would do one row and see how the fit was. Turns out, It was not an issue. The rest went in and the door seals perfectly. I'm very pleased with results.

The conclusion is if you have a wayne dalton door and want to stop it from letting wind, snow, and rain in. Try these hinges. it took me about an hour and a half to complete the job. The only issue is cutting the hinges. I have a band saw so it was simple. The guy on the video used a plasma cutter.

I will be buying more to do my other door that is for sure.
 

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So a big shout out to Green Hinges. I have a Wayne Dalton door and the track is riveted in and the hinges are those narrow 3+ inch pinch-less hinges.
I talked to Lester and he will not say anything about using the hinges for a Wayne Dalton door for liability I'm sure. He did direct me to a you tube video of a guy who modified them to work.

I watched the video, seems easy. I then bought the hinges plus some #1 garage hinges for the center. This makes the axis equal to the green hinges
https://www.garagedoorstuff.com/product/garage-door-hinge/
20 for less than 1 dollar a piece

I used a paper stencil to get the right size along with trying to line up the axis of the green hinge with the door. Once I figured that out. I cut the hinge with my band saw I then had two templates to cut the rest with.

Getting them on the door was a snap. I had to drill new holes thankfully the new holes where no where near the old ones.( I worried about that.) My only gripe was Wayne Dalton uses a torx screws and 1/2 inch screws on each hinge. Annoying.

Lastly, I was worried that the green hinges would be too tight. They do sit about 1/4 to 1/8 inch higher than the wayne dalton hinges. meaning the roller distance fully compressed on the green hinge still sits higher. I compared the #1 #2 and #3 and they were all a little high. Truthfully I almost abandoned the mod when I checked that measurement. I figured I would do one row and see how the fit was. Turns out, It was not an issue. The rest went in and the door seals perfectly. I'm very pleased with results.

The conclusion is if you have a wayne dalton door and want to stop it from letting wind, snow, and rain in. Try these hinges. it took me about an hour and a half to complete the job. The only issue is cutting the hinges. I have a band saw so it was simple. The guy on the video used a plasma cutter.

I will be buying more to do my other door that is for sure.
With your door loose in the track, why not slide the track toward the wall so the door is tight to the wall when it closes? That's what I did to the one door I had time to adjust.
 

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The track isn’t adjustable and the door was close to the wall but any wind and the door would rattle and gap. More noticeable in the winter. These hinges hold the door tight to the seal. This was my logical solution. The springs allow for any variables that might happen.
 

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I've been very happy with mine. Initially bought 1 set to tryout, and wound up purchasing 5 sets in total from Lester (2 for my attached garages, and 3 for my detached shop). Using them on a 10x8, 16x8, (2) 12x10's, and a 12x14. I probably could've saved a few bucks and drilled the rivets on the tracks to make them adjustable, but in my experience adjusting the tracks is finicky. The green hinges self-adjust as needed to keep the weather and critters out.
 

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Jayman17

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I just installed these on my 30 year old garage door and I like the results. Really tightened up the gap.

Jay
 

charbar

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Been thinking about adding some of these to my shop doors. I know every little bit helps, but I'm curious how much spring tension they can actually hold on a door. Living in part of the Great Plains (Nebraska) wind is just a part of life and can be down right stupid here....I don't have the biggest doors by any means, but my 20x14s flop around like a fish out of water......can these hinges actually make a difference or am I better off trying to find a better way to seal the doors?

I am going to add a Snirt Stopper ( https://www.snirtstopper.com/ ) to the bottoms of all my doors. They also advertise a better side and top seal.......Wondering if the different seals would be a better option than the Green Hinges. Anyone have any insight?
 

c7fx

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Charbar,
My experience with the seals (generic) not sure about the snirt but most during the cold months become stiff and stay at a certain position. The wind comes and moves the door while the seal stays giving that gap. I have tried brush seals rubber seal etc.
The Green hinge has a firm tension to my door. I haven't installed it yet on my larger door but assume it will be the same. Mind you some physics with Lbs per square ft a large door 20x14. A 10 mph wind will be pushing close to 130lbs on that door.
If I were you I would get the hinges. It will definitely help your rattling door. The bottom seal is not going to help the rattle. It will help if you have a gap. For me the rubber seal that came with my door works fine and the weight of the door keeps it sealed tight. Good luck hope this helps.
 

pnut

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I ordered them, turns out that my hinges were narrower. I tried to reach customer service through their website, they never answered.

I returned them.

While it may be a great product I have no patience for companies that don't contact me back.
 

c7fx

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pnut its a one man company I believe. I talked to Lester and it seems its a small company. If you had a wayne dalton or something similar just cut the ears to fit.
 

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Charbar,
My experience with the seals (generic) not sure about the snirt but most during the cold months become stiff and stay at a certain position. The wind comes and moves the door while the seal stays giving that gap. I have tried brush seals rubber seal etc.
The Green hinge has a firm tension to my door. I haven't installed it yet on my larger door but assume it will be the same. Mind you some physics with Lbs per square ft a large door 20x14. A 10 mph wind will be pushing close to 130lbs on that door.
If I were you I would get the hinges. It will definitely help your rattling door. The bottom seal is not going to help the rattle. It will help if you have a gap. For me the rubber seal that came with my door works fine and the weight of the door keeps it sealed tight. Good luck hope this helps.


Thanks for the reply I think I am going to give the Green hinges a try.

My concrete is pretty uneven under my doors, so that is the reason I am going to try the Snirt bottom seal.
 
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Pretty sure it's a 1 man band.

I'm surprised that some doors don't have adjustable tracks. My doors have 7 brackets on each track that allow for about 2.5" of adjustment.

Looked into the shirt seals. Would be almost $400. Will need to price brush seals, seem to remember them being around $3-4 a foot, so around $250.
 

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Yesterday I just got enough of the Green Hinges to do two door. Also picked up new bottom seals and ordered some 1" backer rod that I am going to try before the Snirt bottom seal.

Backer rod was an Amazon order that isnt here yet and Im thinking maybe by next weekend I can have the hinges on to see how they are going to work.

My tracks are adjustable as well but once you get them adjusted in enough to seal up tight then the door doesnt want to go up and down properly. I think the Green Hinge will be nice since it will allow some give in the door while going up and down and then seal up tight when down.
 

c7fx

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Today we have high winds temps below zero and the doors are solid. I have no drafts coming from the doors even when the wind blows hard. I am very happy with these Hinges
 

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I have green hinges on and with the winds today the doors still howl. These are 10x8 doors.
 

c7fx

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wow I have 10x8 and a 18x8 and the larger door wiggles with the wind gusts but I have a nice seal. The garage is a nice 50 degrees and it's -5 degrees outside. I'm sold and glad I went through the effort to make them work with wayne Dalton doors
 
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Yesterday I just got enough of the Green Hinges to do two door. Also picked up new bottom seals and ordered some 1" backer rod that I am going to try before the Snirt bottom seal.

Backer rod was an Amazon order that isnt here yet and Im thinking maybe by next weekend I can have the hinges on to see how they are going to work.

My tracks are adjustable as well but once you get them adjusted in enough to seal up tight then the door doesnt want to go up and down properly. I think the Green Hinge will be nice since it will allow some give in the door while going up and down and then seal up tight when down.

Mine don't most with the 60mph winds we've been having aside from the door flexing.
Need to get some bracing.
 

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Issue with my setup is my doors are 8 panels and they only have them for 6 and 7. Lester said just use the 7 and omit one more panel, but that sort of defeats the purpose I'd think?

My Dad was saying door rough in should be same as door, that make sense? The several doors I've worked on, the rough it in was always a little smaller. IE a 10ft door, opening was maybe 9ft 10in. Gave an inch on each side for the door to rest on teh wall

I always get different answers when I ask this questions, and I see it both ways when looking at doors that are already installed. Some doors I see only touch the seal that goes around the door and don't touch anything else. Others will overlap a bit.... IDK
 

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I hope it's OK to bump an old thread, but I'm trying to weatherseal my garage so my mini-split doesn't have to work so hard. These green hinges seem to get good reviews, but I just don't understand the principle of operation.

I understand they have 1/4" of spring tension, but what does the spring actually push against? Doesn't it just push the door out 1/4" further? Couldn't I get the same effect by just adjusting my tracks 1/4" closer to the door rough opening?

The door seals are supposed to be positioned a certain distance from the door. If they are too close, it will rub the door too hard. If they are too far away, there will be a gap. That seems to apply with or without the green hinges. I guess I don't understand what the spring loading actually accomplishes.

Is the idea that the springs push the door hard against the rough opening? On my garage, that's just drywall, so it's not something the door should rub against.

What do the hinges accomplish that I couldn't accomplish by just installing new door seals maybe closer to the door, and/or scooting my door tracks out closer to the existing door seals?
 
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I hope it's OK to bump an old thread, but I'm trying to weatherseal my garage so my mini-split doesn't have to work so hard. These green hinges seem to get good reviews, but I just don't understand the principle of operation.

I understand they have 1/4" of spring tension, but what does the spring actually push against? Doesn't it just push the door out 1/4" further? Couldn't I get the same effect by just adjusting my tracks 1/4" closer to the door rough opening?

The door seals are supposed to be positioned a certain distance from the door. If they are too close, it will rub the door too hard. If they are too far away, there will be a gap. That seems to apply with or without the green hinges. I guess I don't understand what the spring loading actually accomplishes.

Is the idea that the springs push the door hard against the rough opening? On my garage, that's just drywall, so it's not something the door should rub against.

What do the hinges accomplish that I couldn't accomplish by just installing new door seals maybe closer to the door, and/or scooting my door tracks out closer to the existing door seals?

Yup, can just adjust the track.
 

thebucketmouse

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Thanks to the video on youtube and the comments here from c7fx I was able to do the Wayne Dalton - Green Hinge conversion as well. Door seals up tight when closed and seems to go up and down just fine. Hoping that the hinges don't bind and pull out of the thin Wayne Dalton sheet metal but time will tell I suppose. For those that have a 3D printer you can download the spacers i made that allow you to re-use the original middle hinges. I think they look more professional than the guy in the youtube video who made spacers out of laminate flooring samples.

 

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