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ycmike

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I just bought and installed an Atlas 9000# 2 post lift in my new shop.
Got it from Direct sales in Calgary Canada.
Price was good and I would say the quality is good.
Lifts my Chev Silverado half ton with no complaining.
Certainly is nice working on a vehicle standing on your feet and not wiggling around on a creeper!
 
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Will S.

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Friend of mine went to the Greg Smith facility in Newark, De, about a month ago, and checked out their lifts. After closely checking them out and talking with the sales guy, he was less than impressed. They were ok, but not nearly as nice as the Eagle 9000# 2 post that another friend of his has in his shop, for several years.

So he ordered the Eagle, andit came 2 days later. He and I unloaded the truck, and did the installation a few days ago. It is built to very high quality standards, and with quality materials. The base plates are 5/8" steel; all welds are excellent; hydraulic fluid reservoir tank is metal, not plastic. Pump appears to be made in USA. Much more, but you get the idea, and it cost him $1500 plus delivery charge. Atlas was about $700 more, and even though they are located here in Delaware, the frieght charge was the same as Eagle charged him.

I have no doubt that if I put a lift in, it will be an Eagle.
 

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Friend of mine went to the Greg Smith facility in Newark, De, about a month ago, and checked out their lifts. After closely checking them out and talking with the sales guy, he was less than impressed. They were ok, but not nearly as nice as the Eagle 9000# 2 post that another friend of his has in his shop, for several years.

So he ordered the Eagle, andit came 2 days later. He and I unloaded the truck, and did the installation a few days ago. It is built to very high quality standards, and with quality materials. The base plates are 5/8" steel; all welds are excellent; hydraulic fluid reservoir tank is metal, not plastic. Pump appears to be made in USA. Much more, but you get the idea, and it cost him $1500 plus delivery charge. Atlas was about $700 more, and even though they are located here in Delaware, the frieght charge was the same as Eagle charged him.

I have no doubt that if I put a lift in, it will be an Eagle.

I saw a lot of bad reviews on eagle and didn't use them on my latest purchases. Maybe something changed?

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I am currently looking into purchasing a 2 post lift myself as well and have been looking into several options at this time.

2 shops where I frequent with my cars and where I see BMW"s/Audi's/Mercedes all the time, use Atlas 9000OH for their daily stuff (4 years). Those mechanics have the same lifts at home as well.

I also know of an another mechanic friend (works at a ford dealership) who uses Revolutinary (rotary) at home (2 years).

Can some clarify to me when, why professionals don't buying them while GF members only recommend Mohawk/Bendpark? If professionals don't have any issues with them why would we? Why spend twice or more on an enthusiast brand when those lifts be used occassionally few times a month?

Btw, do you guys know what kinda lifts your mechanics uses? :dunno:

When I was shopping for my lift I did look to see what lifts the car dealers and indies were using, since a lot of them were going out of business and the lifts were being sold when they auctioned off everthing in the garage. I saw a lot of rotary lifts, bent pack, and some Mohawk, with a mix of a few other lifts. I don't recall seeing any Greg Smith smith lifts in those shops. I Don't know why you rank rotary as a cheap lift, because I think it is up there with Bent Pack.

I worked under a weaver lift years ago and really liked a solid lift. I didn't like the chain cover on the floor on the Weaver lift, because it made using a Trans jack a pain in the ****. I also didn't like lifts with the chain on the top because I've seen that limit lift height on vans, and I've seen more than one car hit the cross bar with a crunch.

Mohawk met all of my needs. It is extremely heavy duty, has no chain bar on the floor or overhead to get in my way so I'm not limited in any way. My shop ceiling is 16' tall, and the haudraulic lines between the posts are above my rafters. My lift was bought used and came out of a saturn dealer that went out of business, when they stopped making saturns. If you look at auctions, you can find these heavy duty lifts cheap.


If I couldnt find a Mohawk for a price I wanted to pay. I planned to get a bent pack 10,000 lb. lift. http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/bendpak-2-post-lifts-s/494.html. It is heavy duty, ALI certified and $2,985 delivered. It is only a few hundred dollars more than the Greg smith 10,000 lb lift if you include shipping. To me a lift, like any good tool, is a lifetime purchace, so I look at quality first and price second. The few hundred dollar price difference on a multi thousand dollar lift isn't really tha big a difference for something you will probably use for the rest of your life.

The argument that you don't need as good a lift as a pro since you are only lifting a few cars a month, never made sense to me. If you have a 10,000 lb truck sitting over your head that will kill you if it falls, what difference does it make if you only stand under it on weekends vs. standing under it on weekdays. If the truck falls on you, won't the result be the same? This always reminds me of the old motorcycle helmet saying that you only buy a $10 helmet to protect a $10 head.

Chris
 
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lynnbilodeau

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Bought two Atlas 4 post lifts from Greg Smith last month.

Bendpak 4 post was not even close on price. Looks like it at first, but then you have to add on the accessories that are included from GS: drip trays, sliding jack platform and casters = extra $455.

My wife and I assembled the first one in about 4 hours; the second in about 2 hours.

I looked at the welds, materials, etc. All decent quality. Got shorted on a couple of hardware pieces (washers and one bolt). Instructions do ****, but the lifts are fine.

Would I use these in a commercial setting? No. But it isn't because one might fall. I am more than comfortable with the safety lock system. No way is this thing falling on anyone's head. And.... I challenge you to find one actual instance of that happening.

The ONLY reasons I would not use it in a commercial setting are: that it simply isn't designed to go up and down 40 times a day, and it is kind of slow going up with that 120 motor. It has NOTHING to do with how safe it is once it is up.

BTW, for what it is worth, the holding tanks on the motors are metal. I don't see that as a quality issue, as plastic would be fine with me. My brother's Rotary lifts at the shop have plastic tanks. I never gave it a thought.
 

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I helped two friends assemble GS lifts one four post and one two post. They drove to the warehouse to save the freight. They wanted me to buy in on a lift to save another $100.00 per lift. I didn't and chose to wait to purchase a Bend-pak .

All three of us have been wrenching for over 30 years and have used and abuse every brand a lift out there. The two lifts were going to be used for home and it was all about the price.

Long story short , you get what you pay for. The 4 post lifts are great for the car that is parked for long term storage .The two post lift is great for the budget weekender that feels Advance Auto sales parts are equal to OEM quality .

Same as purchasing a motorcycle helmet from Bell or a $19.95 Wal-Mart special.

I have Rotary lifts, Mowhawk, Globe and Western. I purchased a Bend- Pak 4 post for my home shop cause of the reviews vs price . I would say the Bend-pak is a decent lift for the weekender or the small- mid shop . Rotary and Mowhawk are your high end lifts that will take abuse all day. Unless your working on scrap cars why would you cheap out on safety or durability . As far as my friends purchase, the four post leaked 1 year after purchase and he sold it for 1/2 of the purchase price to get rid of it. The two post one is still used with buyer remorse.

Mac
 
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Will S.

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I saw a lot of bad reviews on eagle and didn't use them on my latest purchases. Maybe something changed?

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I haven't seen the reviews you mentioned, so I don't know what the complaints were about. I did find one negative review regards to a lift arriving "all scratched up", and Eagle sent the guy some paint. Don't know what he expected them to do. But chances are this lift was scratched by the carrier.

My friend's lift came complete with all hardware, nuts bolts and washers; none missing. The lift is powder coated, and has a really nice finish. Even the Eagle logo is painted on; not a stick-on decal. Also included iwith the lift, were the pad risers, which is several hundred dollar option on Atlas. Has automatic arm locks, so when lift is raised more than 2", arms can't rotate. That prevents an arm from kicking out from under the frame, if not set properly.

Here's the one he bought:
http://www.eagleequip.com/product/MTP-9A.html
 

ncautoshop

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There were 5 or 6 reviews on their website when I looked. One said something to the tune of "it worked fine for about a month and the pump failed, they wouldn't replace" maybe they resolved them or deleted them. I have no input on their quality but their close to us. I'd like to know more. Might be an option in the future!

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Matt M PA

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I bought my mid-rise from the Greg Smith store in DE. In fact, friends with a body shop bought the same lift at the same time. We brought them home in my car trailer.

The guys at the store were helpful, and the lift has been fine.
 

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Has automatic arm locks, so when lift is raised more than 2", arms can't rotate. That prevents an arm from kicking out from under the frame, if not set properly.
i'm pretty sure every 2 post does that. at the very least, the atlas and bendpak does.
 

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I can't believe this old thread is still active. I guess I'll chime in again and post a few things that I noticed about GS 9000 OHSC, 2 post.

I never knew that my hydraulic power pack was made in the USA. I was standing there lowering a car, so you pretty much don't have much to do, so I started reading the tags on the motor/pump. That was a cool surprise. I also don't have a bit of issue with the tank being plastic, one less thing to bang my head on...which I do often.

I recently noticed that one of my arms seemed to be lower than the other 3. I thought I somehow bent one. Turns out the snap ring that goes on the bottom of the pin for that arm was missing. this allowed the pin to push up just enough so it wasn't contacting the bottom hole on the arm. I don't know where it went, but am pretty sure I know how I lost it. I will claim operator error on this on.

As anyone with a small shop knows, **** gets laying around all the time. I figure that when I lowered the lift completely to the floor,, the pin hit something on the floor pushing the pin up and snapping out the snap ring. After I re seated the pin, the arms were all level with each other.

I'm glad I landed on this thread again. I need to order that snap ring.
 

ncautoshop

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I haven't seen the reviews you mentioned, so I don't know what the complaints were about. I did find one negative review regards to a lift arriving "all scratched up", and Eagle sent the guy some paint. Don't know what he expected them to do. But chances are this lift was scratched by the carrier.

My friend's lift came complete with all hardware, nuts bolts and washers; none missing. The lift is powder coated, and has a really nice finish. Even the Eagle logo is painted on; not a stick-on decal. Also included iwith the lift, were the pad risers, which is several hundred dollar option on Atlas. Has automatic arm locks, so when lift is raised more than 2", arms can't rotate. That prevents an arm from kicking out from under the frame, if not set properly.

Here's the one he bought:
http://www.eagleequip.com/product/MTP-9A.html

Just to follow up...those arm restraints will not prevent an arm from kicking out. Trust me I know! Had an employee learn the hard way!

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I investigate purchases to the point where the manufacturer has likely thought about putting a hit out on me.

Here's your problem right here.

If this is how annoying you admit to being I wonder how much so you actually are.

Yes it's not perfect customer service, but a high volume business probably doesn't have time to babysit a one time customer.
 
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JMartens

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I bought two lifts from GS at the Indy store two, maybe three years ago. Phone calls were okay until they knew I was for sure buying. Once it got to that point, it was smooth sailing. The lifts were ready to go when we got there and got loaded and out in under an hour. Picked up several other things while I was there and all tools are still going strong in my hobby shop.
 

nyhuntr

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Ok thanks so which would you buy a elite 10x or the pv10 ? both being amost the same
 

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Just ordered a tire machine and balancer for our shop. I am planning on doing a write up. Anyways shipping was reasonable and packaged well. Machines work great and customer support is great.
 

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PV 10 has the arms that can act as symmetric or assymetric. Very bbefy and owner of store has the PV10 in his own shop
 

nyhuntr

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Dose any one have the elite 10x that can tell me how they like it. I like the fact that it is ali certified vs ce certified thanks
 

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I've bought from the Indy store on a couple occasions, a motorcycle lift, a 6k mid-rise lift and a blast cabinet. Each time took the order over the phone and had it ready when I stopped by the store to pick it up. No complaints from me, good service both on the phone and in person and everything works as advertised.
 

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I bought a 10k lift from GS in November. I had a friend help me stand the columns, but put the rest of it together myself. The customer service at the New Hampshire location was indifferent compared to my excitement at finally getting my lift. I don't buy one every day, but the guy at the store sells them every day all day. I had no problems with the install, no missing parts, the only paint scratches were ones I did. I had to drive 4 hrs down and 4 back to get it because I wanted to see it touch it and not pay the shipping and then deal with coordinating delivery. They loaded it right on to my flatbed trailer.
I have lifted the 1980 Fiat spider, the 2003 ext. cab 1500 GMC, and the 1959 Apache on it and felt safe with each.
I just wish I could get to my barn and play some more, but I have so much snow in the dooryard I can't get there!!
 

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Did you have the "pleasure" of dealing with Elvin?

Elvin sold me my lift. He was very helpful to me in choosing accessories. I knew which lift I wanted buy before I entered the warehouse. We even chatted for awhile - small talk.
 

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Here's mine. Its hard to set up by one person but doable. Only negative on my install is one of the arm is not line up when I pulled it close to each other (off by 3/8") but I just cut a piece of tire with same height and problem is solve. Did not bother calling. Garage is still under construction but already used the light for tie rods and ball joint replacements…
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