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Guidance regarding DIY box

_Hawk3y3_

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Hey everyone, long time lurker here making his first post. I first want to extend a huge thank you to all of you for the vast amount of knowledge that you share on this forum. I learn more and more every day, and always look forward to those few moments a day when I can log on and read.

I'm looking for some guidance on the purchase of my first box. A little background, I'm a weekend DIY guy who primarily works on my cars (Hyundai, Kia). Nothing too daunting yet, but I'm venturing out more and more thanks to the knowledge I am picking up on this forum. I also do some household stuff. Although I'm not a home owner at the moment (still renting), I expect to own within the next 5 years.

I've been living out of a HF 4 drawer cart for a few years now, because at the time that was all I had room for. Circumstances are different now, both in regards to my available space and the growing size of my tool collection. I'm looking to purchase my first box. Criteria include a long life expectancy of the box, and a budget of ~$400. Being somebody who does not earn a living with my tools and who values taking care of things so that they last a long time, I think 15 years at a bare minimum is a reasonable life expectancy for a first box, in my mind at least. The ~$400 budget was established with the intent of purchasing the highly regarded HF 44" roller cab, as it meets all of my criteria. I'm not crazy about the color or drawer detents, the drawer layout isn't perfect but I can live with it, and I wish it was 2-3" wider and a little deeper, but it's been well established that it's the ultimate weekend DIY box for those who don't have a less-then-ideal budget for tool storage.

Here's where I need the guidance...Menards has recently put out a new box near my price range. It is not from the well reviewed Masterforce line, but rather from their mid-tier Performax line. It's a 40" top and bottom combo. Here's the links:

https://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/tool-storage/tool-chests-boxes/performax-reg-40-5-drawer-tool-cabinet/p-1462879416537-c-9188.htm?tid=864826699421843769
https://www.menards.com/main/tools-hardware/tool-storage/tool-chests-boxes/performax-reg-40-5-drawer-tool-chest/p-1462879416604-c-9188.htm?tid=864826699421843769

Since my wife works at a Menards, I can get both pieces for about $450 after tax, plus about $50 back in rebates if I buy the pieces separately on an 11% sale. I like the hood on the top box (something the HF top box does not have, would I decide to expand at a later point), and like the fact that all the drawers on the bottom box are full length. I also love the "Secure Latch" drawers. They're not as nice as the griplatch drawers on the Masterforce boxes, but they operate much more smoothly and efficiently than the detents on the HF 44 in my opinion. I'm not sure if these features are enough to overlook the gauge of the metal used on the box, though, which is clearly inferior to the beefy build of the HF 44. There is definitely some flex in the drawers. The slides are rated for 100 lbs, and I don't think I would extend beyond those limits. Even if I did, the Performax boxes have a lifetime warranty that come with them. Presumably that only covers slides and the gas struts for the hood, but it's still better than the 90 day HF warranty.

After this rambling post, I guess my question comes down to this...I take good care of my possessions, and would not be opening my toolbox 200 times a day. Given my set of circumstances, which box would you go with -- the HF 44 roller cab or the Performax top and bottom set? Thanks in advance for all your responses, and everybody have fun and be safe this upcoming holiday season.
 
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For your purpose, either box will work. Seems the Menard's set will have more capacity than just the HF 44" bottom, but if you don't need all the capacity now, maybe buy the HF and add a top box later.
 

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Get the Menards. At least if you ever do have problems your wife can track down repair pieces or take them from returned/defective boxes. Plus, you'll provide some job security for the mrs.:thumbup:
 
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I would be patient and look for better used first, but given your options it has to be harbor fright. I have not checked out that particular proformax box but others I have looked at didn't impress me one bit with their construction or the quality of their slides. 100 pounds in tools happens fast and those big drawers would still look empty.
 

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I'll just leave this option for consideration. It's a 40" Husky box from Home Depot that is now putting the older style models on clearance as they have started bringing out newer all-matte-black models to replace them. This 40" top and bottom chest combo is currently $318 w/ free ship to store if your store doesn't already have it.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-40...ool-Cabinet-Set-Black-HOTC4010B5ERS/204781840

These boxes are not bad given the price. They are not as heavy duty as the HF line but are pretty well reviewed online.
 
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_Hawk3y3_

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I would be patient and look for better used first, but given your options it has to be harbor fright. I have not checked out that particular proformax box but others I have looked at didn't impress me one bit with their construction or the quality of their slides. 100 pounds in tools happens fast and those big drawers would still look empty.

This has been my internal struggle. The Performax box certainly doesn't feel like tinfoil, but it doesn't approach the quality of a HF 44 either. The possibility of a drawer or 2 bowing has entered my mind. While it shouldn't be a problem as long as weight is evenly distributed throughout the box, the thought still keeps creeping in every now and then.

Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions, guys. Keep them coming!
 

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... and like the fact that all the drawers on the bottom box are full length. I also love the "Secure Latch" drawers. They're not as nice as the griplatch drawers on the Masterforce boxes, but they operate much more smoothly and efficiently than the detents on the HF 44 in my opinion. I'm not sure if these features are enough to overlook the gauge of the metal used on the box, though, which is clearly inferior to the beefy build of the HF 44. There is definitely some flex in the drawers. The slides are rated for 100 lbs, and I don't think I would extend beyond those limits. Even if I did, the Performax boxes have a lifetime warranty that come with them. Presumably that only covers slides and the gas struts for the hood, but it's still better than the 90 day HF warranty.
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I have the HF 44" box, based partly on recommendations from this site. I've been pleased with it, but I do prefer the layout of box that you showed. I was ready to suggest that you buy it instead of the HF box. But based on your description of the thin gauge metal in Performax box, I'd go with HF. I too would like full width drawers on the bottom, but I'd rather have sturdier drawers.
 
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_Hawk3y3_

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Was in Menards for other things last night so I was able to check out a few more things on the Performax box that I hadn't thought of before:

-The drawers do not fully extend...there's about 1"-1.5" of drawer still in the box with the slides at full extension.

-The drawer layout cannot be rearranged without significant modification to the box. Some other boxes have provisions to mount slides every inch or 2...this one does not. That means sockets would have to be stored under the hood of the top box. Not a huge deal (in fact, I kinda like the idea), as the box is 5 feet tall, the top shelf under the hood being 4 feet off the ground. I put some Hansen trays in there to simulate the height so I could gauge whether it would be too awkward/uncomfortable to not have them at waist height, as they would be in the HF 44. Wasn't an issue.

-I had a thought of possibly placing 1/4" plywood in the bottom of the drawers in the bottom box to help take some of the flex out of it. Is this feasible?

Still back and forth between the HF 44 and this Performax box. I keep going back to the drawer closing systems of each box. The HF 44 detents aren't my favorite, and I've read posts here and there of users having problems with them in cold weather (my garage is unheated in central Wisconsin). The soft close drawers on the Performax have always felt better to me. And if they do fail at some point, it's just a warranty claim. That HF 44 is built like a tank though...

I appreciate the thoughts, guys. Keep them coming!

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I have a Masterforce box, and love it. I waited until they went on sale and jumped on one. I load that thing with tools. One drawer I have filled with hammers. More than should be in it. Smooth as silk. The new Craftsman boxes aren't what they used to be. The HF box isn't bad either with the discounts.
 
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_Hawk3y3_

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A decision still hasn't been made?

Yes and no...

Since this box conspicuously appeared about 2 weeks before Black Friday, I was hoping Menards would include it in their ad this year. No such luck. Unfortunately, BF ads from the rest of the stores were rather underwhelming as well.

I think I have settled on the Performax box from Menards. I like the drawer layout, can live with the metal thickness if I am able to stiffen the drawers with plywood/Masonite, and I can buy it in pieces, waiting for it to go on sale. Transporting the box would be easier from Menards as well. I could get my wife to purchase it one day, she could have some workers load it into her Sorento for her, and it's a 1 man job to unload it when she brings it home. The nearest HF is almost an hour away, and while the box will fit in the back of a Sorento if loaded correctly, unloading it at home would be a bit of a chore.

My thought is to wait until the Performax box goes on sale (11% at the very least), and buy the bottom box first. I can wait for the top box if need be. Until that time arrives, I'm open to having my mind changed.

Thanks for all your opinions, GJers. I'd love to hear more. Hope everyone had a safe and blessed Thanksgiving.
 
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Sounds like you made up your mind, but have you looked into this one:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-46...-with-Solid-Wood-Top-Black-7440946R/206839475
I had the 52" version and loved it. unfortunately, I sold it to downsize. :(
I saw it in HD today. They had 1 left from yesterdays BF sale priced at $199. MUCH flimsier than the blue Performax box. Drawer layout is OK, and a wooden top is always a plus. Only 1 set of slides on the deep drawers, and lots of side to side play with all drawers. I think $200 is more than a fair price for what you get with this unit, but I ultimately decided to pass. It just wasn't right for me. Now this chest looked fantastic, but the boss vetoed the price tag.

http://m.homedepot.com/p/Husky-52-i...nd-Cabinet-Textured-Black-H52CH6TR9/206828259
 
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