BellyUpFish
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And by good insurance policy he means a rider policy just for the guns. Insurance will only cover in most cases $1,500 worth of guns, unless there is a rider policy.
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And by good insurance policy he means a rider policy just for the guns. Insurance will only cover in most cases $1,500 worth of guns, unless there is a rider policy.
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BellyUpFish
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galute
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yup!
spotco2
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yup, I'm wearing more than that right now.
Amsec BF is the lowest thing I would consider a safe. Anything else is just a metal cabinet that you keep stuff it.
With that being said, those inexpensive containers have thier place just like everything else.
Andybull
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I've been happy with Liberty.
That video will give you a good idea on what to look for. I hilly recommend everyone that is looking for one to watch it in full.
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synchro7
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I picked up an old Wells-Fargo 2 door safe for hauling it away. It weighs 1100 lbs, I put it in place and built the walls around it. The only way I could move it was, remove the doors and choke up almost to where the ram is on my cherry picker.
I can't read the fire rating.
I can't read the fire rating.
Lippyp
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A neighbour of ours has a big collection of historic rifles, mostly live but a few de-act's, stuff from Martini-Henries to Mosin-Nagants, Lee Enfields and so on, all legally registered. I bumped into him a couple of weekends ago and he was just off to collect the third big safe from a jewellers that had gone out of business. He reckoned they weighed between one and two tons each and they were moving them out with a pallet truck, a come-along and lots of sweat. Once he got them home on his car trailer then as he's a farmer he just picked them up with his telehandler. They had to wait a week for the second couple as the shop owners had to demolish a couple of stud walls to get a better route out of the building as the floor started to crack when they attempted to move them so a few props down in the cellar and some sheets of ply to spread the load (rather him than me!) He basically got them for free if he removed them, they are fairly old but have both key and combination locks and will be resistant to all but the most determined of burglars. Might be worth looking around for something similar. We have a small antique safe that we use more as a piece of furniture but even that is good enough to resist most of todays crackhead thieves.
TAMPAGT07
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There's a nice TL-30 safe for sale here in Tampa on CL... I have a Browning Medallion Series...It's a nice safe, but if I were to do it over again, I would proabably find something like this... vvvvvv
http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/for/4244421321.html
http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/for/4244421321.html
Hpozzuoli
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I got a nice 24 gun stack on one from dicks about 7 years ago. It weighs 700lbs empty. Has 4 shelves to the right. It is fire proof obviously and also heat proof up to I think 1200f for something like 45. Mins. It's anchored to the floor in my basement and in my opinion a really good safe. The wife got it for me for Xmas one year. She paid 399 on Black Friday back then. The thing I like the best is it only has the rotary number dial. No electronic stuff to worry about. If you are interested I could snap a few pics. I use a box of Cilicia for a dehumidifier and never had an issue with rust.
xJoey Dubsx
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Not the best safe, but better then nothing. My budget build... It will be bolted down.
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=221166
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=221166
skyking
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A friend in Dallas hated his indoor pool. He turned the room into a media/game room.......On top of the pool he built a moving deck( where the pit group is).
When it moves to the side ,there are steps down into the pool. That is his safe room and room for both large safes. He has a gun safe in the house that only contains 3 bags of concrete.
When it moves to the side ,there are steps down into the pool. That is his safe room and room for both large safes. He has a gun safe in the house that only contains 3 bags of concrete.
bob15
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Sturdy Safe.
http://www.sturdysafe.com/
They can add stainless steel and can add more steel to their 7 gauge "regular safe" if desired. Very well made. After buying one of their's, i wouldn't consider anything else.
bob
http://www.sturdysafe.com/
They can add stainless steel and can add more steel to their 7 gauge "regular safe" if desired. Very well made. After buying one of their's, i wouldn't consider anything else.
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shootstraight
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With electronc locks you gain convenience and audit ability at the cost of dependability. A good electronic lock will fail closed. It might never fail but is comparitively a lot more prone to. I doubt a typical home gun safe gains anything from an electronic lock.
ez-duzit
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The electric lock gains convenience. And provides a vast secondary market.
nolimits76
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On YouTube, I found these videos by Steelwater. Here is a direct link from their company website. I've never heard of them until I saw the videos, but they appear impressive and affordable.
https://www.steelwatergunsafes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=15
https://www.steelwatergunsafes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=15
cagullett1
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Forgive me if the OP mentioned price and size, but I recently picked up a Cabela's Signature 35 gun safe made by Liberty for $1600 plus tax. I did a TON of research and couldn't find something that size and quality in that price range.
Edit: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Gun-Storage/Gun-Safes%7C/pc/104792580/c/104730480/sc/104369580/Cabelas-Signature-Series-Premium-DS-Gun-Safes-by-Liberty/751858.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fgun-safes%2F_%2FN-1100213%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104369580%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104792580%253Bcat104730480&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104730480%3Bcat104369580
Edit: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Gun-Storage/Gun-Safes%7C/pc/104792580/c/104730480/sc/104369580/Cabelas-Signature-Series-Premium-DS-Gun-Safes-by-Liberty/751858.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fgun-safes%2F_%2FN-1100213%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104369580%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104792580%253Bcat104730480&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104730480%3Bcat104369580
ez-duzit
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I once owned a Liberty and can confirm that it is a quality safe.
Got a Winchester 24 gun from Costco for $700 a number of years ago... I like it. Not big enough though. If you go to buy a gun safe and you pick the size you like, get the next size up...
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onewheat
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I almost jumped on Cabela's Liberty Ambassador Safe but I am turned off by the garish double Cabela's logo on the door. I found a local Liberty dealer to get me out the door just a bit under Cabela's price but it is the gloss marble finish rather than Cabela's Gloss Black, which would have put it slightly above Cabela's price, although the Liberty dealer's safe does come with a couple extras not on the Cabela's version (jewelry drawer, SafeAlert, and the new lighted electronic lock).
I got a 1200 lb Canon Safe off Craigslist, rented a truck with a lift and brought it home. Bolted it in a corner on a concrete floor and put a $99 safe loaded with broom handles next to it as bait. If someone breaks in they will hopefully grab the cheap safe and run, leaving the loaded safe alone.
ar2stp48
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"...electric lock gains convenience. And provides a vast secondary market...." Yes the electronic locks create a market. Every gun safe call I have had since I posted earlier to this thread has been a failed e-lock. Also serviced a 1914 vintage Mosler last week; has a four number Yale combination lock. All I did was clean it; still working perfectly----and will continue to do so
just_hillbilly
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I own a Liberty and a Browning safe. They are both great safes and made heavy! I can't say anything about their customer service because I've never called on them. Both safes were bought off craigslist for a huge savings off retail price.
Hope you have a strong back cuz these things **** to move.
Hope you have a strong back cuz these things **** to move.
Mechanical is dependable and should give you warning signs long before it finally won't open, if it ever gets to that point.
Electronic gives you an audit trail and individual combinations assigned to individual users. Good to deter thefts and take to court. Electronic also gives multiple combinations required to open safe (don't want one guy to access the red button on his own...) also time delay which is to deter thefts in retail stores.
Of all those things, the only one you need for a gun safe lock at home is dependability
I remember hearing if the stuff in the safe is worth $100, then the safe should cost an amount "worthy" of the stuff it's supposed to protect. But I'd rather have something… so I've got a lower-end "box-store" model.
It's nothing special, I've got some family hand-me-downs inside (never going to sell Grandpa's gun). Although I think the current safe is good enough for a few years, I don't think it's best for the prized family possessions, forever.
For the time being, would you drill the floor to secure the "ok" safe, or would you just keep the concrete whole - that is hole free - until you've got exactly the right safe you want?
I can't afford the best safe and the current one came basically free. Just debating if I should make my concrete look like swiss-cheese… suggestions??
It's nothing special, I've got some family hand-me-downs inside (never going to sell Grandpa's gun). Although I think the current safe is good enough for a few years, I don't think it's best for the prized family possessions, forever.
For the time being, would you drill the floor to secure the "ok" safe, or would you just keep the concrete whole - that is hole free - until you've got exactly the right safe you want?
I can't afford the best safe and the current one came basically free. Just debating if I should make my concrete look like swiss-cheese… suggestions??
ez-duzit
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If you don't bolt it down, you make it much easier for thieves to get into.
Concrete is easy and cheap to patch.
Concrete is easy and cheap to patch.
Make a template from wood or cardboard to drill the holes in the floor and current safe. If you ever upgrade to a better safe just use same template.
Schwartzint1
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Amsec BF!
ar2stp48
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Yes, the elocks provide a good secondary market. I get a number of calls to open a safe when they fail. I open safe and usually make a sale of a dial combination lock. They may work for months or years; or not long enough to be sold and leave the store like the one on display at local Atwoods. Lock is standard LaGard used on many models
A recent customer with a failed three year old Cannon compared the price of having his safe opened to wanting a larger safe; he opened his safe with a sawzall
A recent customer with a failed three year old Cannon compared the price of having his safe opened to wanting a larger safe; he opened his safe with a sawzall