Gutter installation problem/question

[GreenGooey]

I'm about to hang gutters on the backside of my house and I'm running into a problem with the slanted fascia. I have gutter wedges to negate the angle but I'm worried that if I put any slope along the run of the gutters then it will bring the hangers down too far on the fascia. You can see in the pictures that the fascia extends down 2" without anything behind it and I think using the gutter wedges will put the angle of the screw in the hangers to where it will miss the rafters/joists and just go through the fascia. Would it be possible to add a board on the backside of the fascia for the screw to grab? Any ideas would be appreciated.

 

[chickenhauler]

Would it be possible to add a board on the backside of the fascia for the screw to grab?

I don't see why not. I'd probably use quarter round, or even 2x2's ripped diagonally. A little bead of adhesive in the corner wouldn't hurt anything either.

 

[kbs2244]

You don’t need a lot of slope.
A lot of guys hang them level to match the house.
The water will find its way to the hole as long as there isn’t anything in the way.

 

[K'ledgeBldr]

I'll assume that by the diagram you posted, you're installing "K" style gutter.
If that the case you have two choices-

The picture is a hidden bracket with an arm to bolts to the center of the hidden bracket then gets screwed to the roof decking (under the shingles) and a rafter.

The pdf is something similar as far as mounting but it's actually a saddle the gutter sits in.

The hidden bracket I have used on restoration projects that had scrolled cut exposed rafter tails. Either one will give you a plumb and level gutter without a lot of jeri-riggin'.

(sorry, pdf was too big for forum- I'll try to link it.)
Here's everything imaginable-
http://www.rutlandguttersupply.com/CAD-design-drawing-specifications.asp

I keep a lot of these CAD drawing on my computer- but I always have to refer back to websites with this forums.

 

[6768rogues]

Looks to me as though the builder used hardboard for a fascia board. If there is nothing solid behind it, you should aim for the rafter tails when you fasten the gutter.

 

[Greatbear]

I would go with a roof deck mount, "hidden" style like shown in post #4.

 

[akdiesel]

Why are you installing them so far down. All the ones I have seen installed have been just below the shingles. I understand you have the metal drip edge which might hinder getting them as close to the shingles as possible but this is how I have seen them done.
One of the problems You might have if you install them where you are suggesting is if you have a hard rain then the water will run off faster and past the gutters.

 

[GreenGooey]

The picture is a hidden bracket with an arm to bolts to the center of the hidden bracket then gets screwed to the roof decking (under the shingles) and a rafter.

Yeah those brackets would seem to work better but I've already bought all the hangers already. Although looking at the "saddle" seems like an option I could do.

Why are you installing them so far down.

The pics are kind of deceiving as they are all looking up. If I had a straight on shot you would see that the board that the drip edge is attached to only has about 3/8" showing below the drip edge........hard to explain. There isn't enough of that board to attach the hanger. That's why I have to mount it lower on the actual fascia.

 

[nit2wn]

How about some of that laminate stuff they use for decking and just run it through a table saw to get the angle you need to square it up. It's usually 1'' or 5/4 thickness and last forever, probably comes in a color you need so no painting.

 

[darkk]

My gutters were installed with a mount that goes inside the gutter near the very top edge. It goes from the front to the rear edge of the gutter. The retaining screw goes through the very top edge into the roof edge about 1/4" to 1/2" down from the shingles. If you don't slope the gutter to one side, the water will set there. The old gutters were very level and water and other stuff sat in there a started to grow little tree things...

 

[BigM]

This is a reply to post number 4. Where can I get the hidden hanger with the angled bolt connector on the image you posted?

 

[fastjohnny]

This is a reply to post number 4. Where can I get the hidden hanger with the angled bolt connector on the image you posted?

How many do you want? I've got a few left from a job.

 

[Anglia Guy]

1/4" every 10 feet is pretty standard for any water runoff whether it is for a gutter or ground water. If you have more than 20 feet, than you probably need to start in the middle (taper them downwards towards each end of the house) and have a downspout at each end of the house. The back of my gutters tuck up under the metal drip edge. That way no water gets against the wood. That is pretty standard, also. But with the overhang you have, you may have to just get them up as close to the roof as you can. Good luck.