Haas vs

[Sunnywindy]

I’m being quoted $5k for a Haas American traditions door , model 952 with overlay. (Double door). Including opener (lift master).
Won’t let me post links.
We also looked at an Amarr classica Santiago but different dealer as the other dealer says amarr is not as good.

Does this price seem reasonable? It was more than I expected. 18x7.

 

[justanengineer]

Depends on how much a bit of pretty and 3-4 hours installation work is worth to you. That’s a R13 door, mediocre from an insulation standpoint. A plain 18x7 door without windows or fancy trim/handles that’s R16-19 is ~$1k and often in stock at the box stores in northern states.

Opinions vary but I strongly advise against doing business with the incompetent scumbags at Haas/Nofziger or their dealers.


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[PassnThru]

You're in a niche market - that's a low volume market. And the people that buy them generally aren't worried about $5K.
As said before, if you want pretty over functional you have to pay for it.

 

[longez]

I work for the parent company of Amarr, and could have received a very substantial employee discount when we were building: 10'x8' and 20'x8' doors. I ended up choosing Haas... and willingly paid more

 

[Yankeefarmer]

I bought 2 Haas doors model 952 this past June. Mine were single width, 10’ w x 9’ h. paid about 7k installed for the two without openers. Got prices from 2 different dealers, They were about $300 different in price for the same thing. Also got prices on a couple of other brands from other dealers and prices were similar. In all cases the door tracks followed the 8/12 pitch of the ceiling to clear a lift. Every dealer also wanted in the $500-$600 ea range for Liftmaster jack shaft openers.

Yes, I thought all the prices were high, but I had no previous experience with buying carriage house style doors, and these were not a common size. I have no regrets; the doors are beautiful and work well.

 

[Sunnywindy]

Thank you so much for the input!!

Yes I know I’m paying more for pretty but the way our home sits and style it will make a big difference.

I wanted to make sure it wasn’t way out of the ballpark of what one should expect but also they spoke quite a bit about how amarr is stamped steel vs Haas is a true overlay.

 

[Sunnywindy]

We were given the same pricing for a Hormann door. Same dealer

 

[Yankeefarmer]

The appearance of the doors was important to the result I was aiming for. Here’s a picture:

 

[ace10]

Had three Haas R17 doors installed three years ago. Had another set of three installed two years ago.

No, they were not inexpensive. No, I don't regret the selection.

 

[justanengineer]

Carriage house doors are a standard panel from most manufacturers as is 10x9 size. Most companies offer 0”, 3”, and 6” oversize of every size imaginable up to ~20’ as no cost “standard” options so you can fit the door to your home or in snow country you can get a bit better seal via bigger door-frame overlap. So long as your roof is a standard pitch then running track up along the ceiling is easy/cheap/common today, shouldn’t cost extra for that either unless they have to reframe your building. If those are the thicker 2.5-3.5” R19-26 panels I’m assuming ~$3k in doors + $4k installation - pretty common. Installation is the common big expense today, usually $1-3k/door for 2-3 hours/door of a $20/hr installer’s time. Windows and faux-ironwork hanging on the outside of the door are the next common big costs. Be cautious of steel or aluminum facing. Some companies push it as an “industrial” option and charge extra, but for residential doors it’s commonly shite quality bc the metal is ultra thin/soft, not supported well in the center of the panel, and will wrinkle and scratch extremely easily. Fiber is often more resilient and the better/cheaper choice.


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