hacksaws?

[rustyzman]

Here are some others.

First is an oddball. Never have I seen another one with this shape.
It is labeled "Compliments of Revere Ribbon and Carbon Co.". The shape has come in handy a few times and it is pretty comfortable to use.

Next is a nifty Proto Los Angeles saw. I keep any Proto Los Angeles tools I find, which is not many, just because I think they are neat.



Last for this post is a Millers Falls and a Wards Powr Kraft, which I need to make a new tension screw for...

 

[mvcorse]

Are new plastic bits still available or are you casting your own?

I filled the defect with self-toned resin, then filed and polished it to shape.

 

[Firebrick43]

I filled the defect with self-toned resin, then filed and polished it to shape.

Cool, do you have a link to the resin?

 

[mvcorse]

Cool, do you have a link to the resin?

Sorry I bought them off-line.

 

[rustyzman]

Let's put in a few more...
Millers Falls, Buck Rogers era.
Interesting that all three of these are somewhat different from each other. The top one has the deepest throat with the offset exensions on the blade retaining pins and the other two have fairly different angles to the front end of the frame. Of course, those last two could just be from being bent over the years.

This is actually a very nice hacksaw to use. I use the top one a lot and that deeper throat that it has vs most other hacksaws is really quite nice and handy. All need a good cleanup, one in particular...

 

[rustyzman]

Some smaller jab saws and other close quarters saws. One is homemade (not by me though).

One is an old Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett OVB.

 

[rustyzman]

Last but not least are the handiest and most unusual ones.

The Snap on HS151. My old boss and mentor introduced me to this saw when I was first apprenticing in auto repair. Man this tool has saved the day more than once. Uses special scroll saw blades that have pins offset toward the back edge of the blade. I keep one at home and one at work.

The other is very unusual, but a cool design that I really like. It is an Atlas Fits-Kit folding hack saw. I need to make a replacement for the front mounting pin, but it folds into a nice tiny package that is great for a mobile toolbox. I seem them on ebay from time to time, but the prices are a bit high to get a second one. I will certainly get another if the right opportunity arises. Only downside is that they take 10" blades, but I can work with that.

 

[d42jeep]

Here is a brand of hacksaw that is new to me. It is on four.cycle’s list, however. It’s a Parker Line. The handle is threaded which tensions the blade.

Vanished Tool Brands: The Parker Line, Worcester, Massachusetts

progress-is-fine.blogspot.com

-Don

 

[four.cycle]

^ You've got a WAY different logo/font on that unit than the others I've seen.... I'm guessing earlier. Very cool.

Parker also made a screw starter for Craftsman (pat 2292657) and a really odd-looking pair of cutters.

 

[d42jeep]

The rust on my new Parker Line hacksaw was pretty unsightly so it got the evaporust treatment. It came out looking much better and looks to meet the specifications for an early Motor Vehicle Mechanic’s Tool Set.

 

[four.cycle]

^ I found some 1943 hacksaw blades.

 

[d42jeep]

I would be interested in any wartime 12” hacksaw blades with 24 TPI. I’m constantly looking for them!
-Don

 

[four.cycle]

gah! those were 32s.... If I find some I'll holler.

 

[four.cycle]

Diamond Saw Works 10022 Sterling hacksaw

really a nice piece. die-cast alloy body.

Diamond / Diamond Saw Works Inc., 12290 Olean Rd., Chaffee, NY 14030-9768 / https://www.diamondsaw.com/ / "Sterling" saw and saw blades / est. 1890 /

 

[four.cycle]

Lenox 4012 Hackmaster hacksaw

Lenox 4012 Hackmaster hacksaw

Lenox / Lenox, Division of American Saw and Manufacturing, East Longmeadow, MA / https://www.lenoxtools.com/ / saws / est. 1915 acquired by Stanley Black & Decker 2017 /

 

[nadogail]

My present hacksaw is a Sanvick that I found laying in the road.

 

[four.cycle]

Henry G. Thompson & Son No. 3 Milford midget frame hacksaw

Henry G. Thompson & Son No. 3 Milford midget frame hacksaw

Thompson / Henry G. Thompson Co., New Haven, CT (H.G. Thompson & Son) / est. 1879 inc. 1898 / "Milford" "Master Grip" hacksaw / patent D178504 Aug 14 1956 & 2796098 Jun 18 1957 Raymond C. Dreier /

 

[four.cycle]

no idea who made this green-handled number. not sure if you call it a "keyhole" or a "compass" saw. the knurled nut spins off to allow changing the blade or moving the clock position (of which there are six options.) there's a tiny straight pin that secures the blade.


green-handled keyhole saw

 

[four.cycle]

General Metal Products Bowman bread and cake knife (patent D49295)

General Metal Products Bowman bread and cake knife (patent D49295)

Samuel Bowman of Lancaster, PA was granted design patent D49295 for this bread and cake knife - truly a thing of beauty.

This particular unit was made by the General Metal Products Co. of Lancaster.
It was also manufactured by one Chas. A. Wohr & Co., also of Lancaster, PA. I have no idea if there was any connection between the two companies. There is no assignee on Bowman's patent. The Wohr photos attached are not mine - they're strictly for information.

General / General Metal Products Co., Lancaster, PA / "Bowman" bread and cake knife / patent D49295 Jul 4 1916 Samuel Bowman / see also Chas H. Wohr & Co. /

Wohr / Chas. H. Wohr & Co., 621 Market St., Lancaster, PA / "Bowman" bread and cake knife / patent D49295 Jul 4 1916 Samuel Bowman / see also General Metal Products Co. /

 

[four.cycle]

And finally, because somebody has to be last....

I bring you the ZONA razor saw - "Thin as a Razor - Built to Last a Lifetime"



Originally the "Zona" was manufactured by Universal Distributing of Phoenix. The Company was later acquired by Blackstone.

I had to do some creative repair work on the box - it was broken in half.

Universal / Universal Distributing Co., 502 W. Hatcher Rd., Phoenix, AZ / "Zona" razor saw /

Zona / Zona Tool Co., Phoenix, AZ / https://www.zonatool.net/ / part of Blackstone Industries LLC / "Zona" razor saw / / see Universal Distributing Co., Phoenix, AZ /

 

[Dryriver1]

Hello All! I hope all is well.

I saw som nice vintage hacksaws, but I did not see one of the best hacksaws I have personaly own and have been using since aprox 1984. It was gifted to me by an old friend.

They have Excellent Sturdy frames, Excellent Balance and Great Hefty Weight on its own, but some of the old guys would actually even add melted lead or silver soder into the handle to add more weight to it. Because of its sturdiness and weight, I have even been able to cut with the blade on a pull cutt instead of the push cut by flipping the blade when it was needed.
You are able to store an extra blade in the frame. Also you can change the blace to cut horizontally. Another feature was that you could extend or shorten the frame for a different length of blade.


They are actually quite rare. The brand is Spartan Hacksaw Made In USA.

At one time years back I saw a clone that said American on one side and Made In USA on the otherside of the handle also.

I copied and past the pictures from a sold ebay listing as I still have not figured all this out yet. They typically go for around $ 60.00 plus and then shipping.

Be well and stay safe out there. Best wishes to you and all of your loved ones always!

Dryriver1

 

[Dryriver1]

Hello All! I hope all is well.

I saw some nice vintage hacksaws, but I did not see one of the best hacksaws I have personaly own and have been using since aprox 1984. It was gifted to me by an old friend.

They have Excellent Sturdy frames, Excellent Balance and Great Hefty Weight on its own, but some of the old guys would actually even add melted lead or silver solder into the handle to add more weight to it. Because of its sturdiness and weight, I have even been able to cut with the blade on a pull cutt instead of the push cut by flipping the blade when it was needed.
You are able to store an extra blade in the frame. Also you can change the blade to cut horizontally. Another feature was that you could extend or shorten the frame for a different length of blade.


They are actually quite rare. The brand is Spartan Hacksaw Made In USA.

At one time years back I saw a clone that said American on one side and Made In USA on the otherside of the handle also.

I copied and past the pictures from a sold ebay listing as I still have not figured all this out yet. They typically go for around $ 60.00 plus and then shipping.

Be well and stay safe out there. Best wishes to you and all of your loved ones always!

Dryriver1

This is my own Spartan. If you guys can find one snag it. Best hacksaw I have ever used and own.

Be well and stay safe out there. Best wishes to you and all of your loved ones always!

Dryriver 1

 

[four.cycle]

@Dryriver1 -

Your "Spartan" hacksaw was made by the Spartan Saw Works of Springfield, Massachusetts.
With some assistance earlier today from datamp.org, it was discovered that the "DESIGN - 147770" mark on the handle is actually the registration number for the patent - not the actual patent number.
Spartan was later acquired by the Armstrong-Blum Mfg. Co.

Spartan / Spartan Saw Works, 41 Taylor St., Springfield, MA (later 152 Fisk Ave.) / est. 1918 acquired by Armstrong Blum Mfg. ca. 1970-1971 / "Spartan" hacksaw / patent D152996 Mar 8 1949 Donald S. McQuillan / * some units marked "DESIGN - 147770" /

Armstrong Blum / Armstrong Blum Mfg. Co., 3501 Marvel Dr., Oshkosh, WI 54902-7177 (formerly 347 No. Francisco Blvd, Chicago, IL) / est. 1904 / "Marvel" "Spartan" hacksaw / patent 2102782 Dec 21 1937 George J. Blum / http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=2519 / https://www.machinetoolsonline.com/doc/armstrong-blum-manufacturing-company-0001 / https://mycompanies.fandom.com/wiki/Armstrong-Blum_Manufacturing_Company /

 

[Dryriver1]

@Dryriver1 -

Your "Spartan" hacksaw was made by the Spartan Saw Works of Springfield, Massachusetts.
With some assistance earlier today from datamp.org, it was discovered that the "DESIGN - 147770" mark on the handle is actually the registration number for the patent - not the actual patent number.
Spartan was later acquired by the Armstrong-Blum Mfg. Co.

Spartan / Spartan Saw Works, 41 Taylor St., Springfield, MA (later 152 Fisk Ave.) / est. 1918 acquired by Armstrong Blum Mfg. ca. 1970-1971 / "Spartan" hacksaw / patent D152996 Mar 8 1949 Donald S. McQuillan / * some units marked "DESIGN - 147770" /

Armstrong Blum / Armstrong Blum Mfg. Co., 3501 Marvel Dr., Oshkosh, WI 54902-7177 (formerly 347 No. Francisco Blvd, Chicago, IL) / est. 1904 / "Marvel" "Spartan" hacksaw / patent 2102782 Dec 21 1937 George J. Blum / http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=2519 / https://www.machinetoolsonline.com/doc/armstrong-blum-manufacturing-company-0001 / https://mycompanies.fandom.com/wiki/Armstrong-Blum_Manufacturing_Company /

Hello FourCycle! I hope all is well with you and your loved ones.

Thank you very much for the information that you posted. Now I know the story behind them. One question that intrigues me is why are they so rare if they were a large manufacturer? I do know they were highly liked by all the electricians back in the day. I was lucky enough to be gifted this one by an old friend and journeyman of mine back in '84.

Be well and stay safe out there.
Best wishes to you and all of your loved ones always!

Dryriver 1

 

[four.cycle]

^ Up until yesterday I had never heard of "Spartan Saw Works" or "Armstrong Blum", so I'm not really sure I can address your question.

What I can say confidently is that there have been a great number of saw manufacturers in this country who collectively produced an enormous quantity of saws. Where all those saws have gone is anyone's guess.
There's a guy named Mark somewhere in Virginia who has a whole garage full of them. It's possible it's a thing like pennies: guys are hoarding them in closets and garages, so it appears there's a shortage of them.

 

[d42jeep]

I was worried until I saw “Mark somewhere in Virginia”.
-Don

 

[doctordirt]

I picked up three more ,so far, today. One is this small M. Klein & Sons. Something, including a threaded part is missing.
Anybody got one like it? I'd like to know what's missing.

I had a similar craftsman hack saw the slot is where the extra blades go with a cover held on by a screw

 

[Dryriver1]

I collect hacksaws also.
Problem is, never have had much luck cutting with them!
They bind, they jump out of the cut,
Im guessing poor technique and or cheap blades?

If you want a good hacksaw that will not jump, bind, twist, etc... look for a Spartan. Every now and then they come up on eBay.

Best hacksaw I have ever used, and I have used many since I was very young growing up.

I still own mine that was a gift back in 1984 and still use it and still works like a champ even when I have had blades whith broken teeth.

You would not regret it if you still have use for a hacksaw.

Best wishes to you and all of your loved ones always!

Dryriver 1

 

[Dryriver1]

Well, I have a hacksaw that is a one of a kind. The maker only made one.

My dad made it around 1936-38 when he was an apprentice metal worker and store bought tools were a item of discretionary spending. The handle is repurposed Bakelite. It’s a tank that has outlasted all the other ones that have come and gone.

I love the story on your hacksaw.

My $.02 worth in MHO I would make a nice shadowbox and brass name plate and hang it proudly in my home to pass on to my son never to forget his roots.

Love your hacksaw and story behind it. If it could only talk....

Best wishes to you and all of your loved ones always!

Dryriver 1

 

[Dryriver1]

I have a few to toss in the mix.

First is my all time favorite hacksaw. It was my first one, that I picked out of a garbage can when I was around 12-ish years old. Millers Falls no.12. The handle was in very poor broken condition when I found it way back then and it has served with a taped up handle since. I decided it was time to redo the handle properly, so I made a new set of handle scales out of some Micarta. I only had one of the original handle chicago screws, so I made two new brass ones as well. I did a quick cleanup on it while I was at it.

Its been a long time coming, but it is finally back up to snuff.

I found this one listed in the 1925 Millers Falls catalog, but not the 1915 one. It does not seem to have been offered for very long. It is a nice design, with a long frame and a low handle placement in relation to the blade. It was almost certainly a more expensive saw to make, as it has a more intricate design than many of the more popular ones that were available at that time and those that subsequently came after.

Hello Rustyzman! I hope all is well.

Very nice saw and work you did on them handles and Chicago screws.

I wanted to ask if you can make out what it said on the original handles?

Best wishes to you and all of your loved ones always!

Dryriver 1

 

[rustyzman]

Hello Rustyzman! I hope all is well.

Very nice saw and work you did on them handles and Chicago screws.

I wanted to ask if you can make out what it said on the original handles?

Best wishes to you and all of your loved ones always!

Dryriver 1

Hi Dryriver 1,
Thank you for the kind compliment!
They said "Universal". I can try to take a picture of them over the weekend to get a better view of them.

 

[rustyzman]

I picked up another FitsKit so I could carry one in my mobile tool kit. This one I did a quick cleanup on and repainted the handle in Wrinkle Finish VHT black paint. It will see duty again, so I was going for a functional refresh. I made a short 10" blade out of a new 12" blade and put a spare in the storage slot inside the top bow. Should be a great addition to the working kit.

 

[Drill Sergeant Arc]

I love the story on your hacksaw.

My $.02 worth in MHO I would make a nice shadowbox and brass name plate and hang it proudly in my home to pass on to my son never to forget his roots.

Love your hacksaw and story behind it. If it could only talk....

Best wishes to you and all of your loved ones always!

Dryriver 1

Thank you so much Dryriver. We are still performance testing that saw so we won’t be retiring it anytime soon. I’ve been trying to wear it out since my dad passed it on to me and I’m quite sure it will no doubt defeat my future attempts going forward. I will be making the tough decision someday on how it and the rest of our family tool heritage will be distributed amongst my kids. I would like to see them keep it all together as a cooperative effort somehow so they and their kids can appreciate the experience of using the tools that my grandad, dad and myself had made our living with.

And best wishes to you and yours also!

 

[d42jeep]

I found a nice Crescent and a slightly rusty Millers Falls hacksaw at a family estate sale in Pinole, CA yesterday.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

I gave the Millers Falls hacksaw the evaporust treatment and looked through my blades and found one marked Millers Falls.
The Crescent just got a new vintage blade
-Don

 

[humber2]

A recent acquisition is this Eclipse No 40 P.G.

There is clear evidence that when not in use the blade tension should be relaxed.

 

[AreBeeBee]

These all hang on the pegboard, and all came from ReStore buys.

The Millers Falls (red grips) is a Model 79, which puzzles me a little since I can't find that number in any of the online MF tool catalogues. (Also, no Model 79s in any of the Goodell-Pratt catalogues.) Anyway, it matches in specs the Model 84, which was the top of the line for MF. See Don's post. And it's the mainstay for me as well. The blade came with the saw and is a "Lenox 40-speed" and reasonably sharp still.

The no-name old-style saw (top) came with that 12-inch blade on it,, and the similar pattern shorter saw is stamped by Consolidated Tools Works of New York; it came with the 8-inch blade seen. The small wire-frame saw has a 6-inch blade and appears identical to the midget frame Thompson saw in post 217.

The bare-bones saw is a Sandvik 208, which replaced a plastic Stanley I had for a while. This is made of aluminum and a lot sturdier. Because it lacks blade support at the front end, I marked the blade as PULL so I don't forget.

The Craftsman has no model mark on it, although it has a BF after the Made in USA stamp. Batch ID in the maker's factory? An OEM identifier???

 

[RTM]

BF is rumored to be Daido, but that sorta goes against the Made in USA stamp

Craftsman Hand Tool Manufacturers & Date Ranges

Last Updated: 11/13/15 (Note-- items in red are the latest updates) Early Craftsman Series (generally pre-1947, some exceptions): A-circle = Empire, ca. 1935 -1973 B-circle = Wilde, ca. 1949-1958 BC = unknown U.S. manufacturer, ca. ? BE = New Britain, ca. 1931 - 1947 BM = S-K, ca. 1939 -...

www.garagejournal.com

ARgh, this one clarifies that BF might also be KTC.

Craftsman odditiy, -V- series made in JAPAN

I just acquired two Craftsman raised panel wrenches that are marked 3/4 FORGED IN JAPAN -V- 44701. Every other Japanese made RP wrench I've seen prior to this is marked MOLYBDENUM ##### BF JAPAN (small letters). All of the resources I have found indicate the V mark was used by Moore Drop Forge...

www.garagejournal.com

Which sends you here

Japanese Tool Makers [Page 1]

Page 1 of an article on Japanese tool companies and brands.

alloy-artifacts.org

Could be that BF was multi use, like someone mentioned DJ for the precision measuring tools recently.

 

[AreBeeBee]

BF is rumored to be Daido, but that sorta goes against the Made in USA stamp

Craftsman Hand Tool Manufacturers & Date Ranges

Last Updated: 11/13/15 (Note-- items in red are the latest updates) Early Craftsman Series (generally pre-1947, some exceptions): A-circle = Empire, ca. 1935 -1973 B-circle = Wilde, ca. 1949-1958 BC = unknown U.S. manufacturer, ca. ? BE = New Britain, ca. 1931 - 1947 BM = S-K, ca. 1939 -...

www.garagejournal.com

ARgh, this one clarifies that BF might also be KTC.

Craftsman odditiy, -V- series made in JAPAN

I just acquired two Craftsman raised panel wrenches that are marked 3/4 FORGED IN JAPAN -V- 44701. Every other Japanese made RP wrench I've seen prior to this is marked MOLYBDENUM ##### BF JAPAN (small letters). All of the resources I have found indicate the V mark was used by Moore Drop Forge...

www.garagejournal.com

Which sends you here

Japanese Tool Makers [Page 1]

Page 1 of an article on Japanese tool companies and brands.

alloy-artifacts.org

Could be that BF was multi use, like someone mentioned DJ for the precision measuring tools recently.

Thanks Kirk. I'd forgotten about the AA write-up on Japanese tool makers, and also to look for the GJ thread on who-made-Craftsman-when.

For what it's worth, a completely nickel-plated Craftsman hacksaw appears in the 1939 catalogue, although the logo shows the C with the long underscore. Interestingly the top of the line then was the "master grip" model, with an amber plastic grip, surely to compete with Millers Falls. There's a photo showing the amber/yellow grips up-thread here.

Same for 1942, but by 1964 the grip had changed to black solid rubber.

Edited to add results of catalogues from 1942 to 1959 —

1949 shows the standard pistol grip model is black plastic, the "safety grip" model is the same. This holds through 1954. In 1955, black plastic grips and nickel-plating continue to reign on the lower-end models, but a new chrome-plated tubular model appears. It has a red plastic safety grip and a thumb rest on top at the end. By 1959, however, the tubular model has disappeared, and it's back to the late 1940s designs with the same materials as then.

 

[Farmer J.]

The bare-bones saw is a Sandvik 208, which replaced a plastic Stanley I had for a while. This is made of aluminum and a lot sturdier. Because it lacks blade support at the front end, I marked the blade as PULL so I don't forget.

Ha ha. Thanks for posting that. I have a saw just the same, and have been breaking and bending blades in it for years. It just never occurred to me to put the blades in the other way around so as they cut on the pull stroke.. ! Doh. I will try them the same way as yours, and probably write 'PULL' on the blade too.