hacksaws?

[AreBeeBee]

Ha ha. Thanks for posting that. I have a saw just the same, and have been breaking and bending blades in it for years. It just never occurred to me to put the blades in the other way around so as they cut on the pull stroke.. ! Doh. I will try them the same way as yours, and probably write 'PULL' on the blade too.

For me the lightbulb turned on when I figured out it could work like a Japanese saw.... Currently I have a 10-inch blade in it, but there's room for a 12 or even longer. At some length I suppose the free end would become too whippy, but so long as it's mounted for a pull stroke, it'll work.

 

[MAD]

BF is rumored to be Daido, but that sorta goes against the Made in USA stamp

Craftsman Hand Tool Manufacturers & Date Ranges

Last Updated: 11/13/15 (Note-- items in red are the latest updates) Early Craftsman Series (generally pre-1947, some exceptions): A-circle = Empire, ca. 1935 -1973 B-circle = Wilde, ca. 1949-1958 BC = unknown U.S. manufacturer, ca. ? BE = New Britain, ca. 1931 - 1947 BM = S-K, ca. 1939 -...

www.garagejournal.com

ARgh, this one clarifies that BF might also be KTC.

Craftsman odditiy, -V- series made in JAPAN

I just acquired two Craftsman raised panel wrenches that are marked 3/4 FORGED IN JAPAN -V- 44701. Every other Japanese made RP wrench I've seen prior to this is marked MOLYBDENUM ##### BF JAPAN (small letters). All of the resources I have found indicate the V mark was used by Moore Drop Forge...

www.garagejournal.com

Which sends you here

Japanese Tool Makers [Page 1]

Page 1 of an article on Japanese tool companies and brands.

alloy-artifacts.org

Could be that BF was multi use, like someone mentioned DJ for the precision measuring tools recently.

I think the codes on Sears tools were there to track who the vendor was, not necessarily the manufacturer. It's just that most of vendors were also the manufacturer. Sears vendor "B.F" could be an American company that contracted with multiple domestic and foreign manufacturers.

 

[tom coffey]

Not very? vintage, but I just bought a SnapOn HS18 for $2.50 at a pawnshop.

 

[RTM]

Here is a hacksaw adjacent score, loved the look of the box. Unfortunately I did not get the full 1/2 gross of 10” blades that the end flap promises, more like 5 blades. Should have got a better pic of the little wrappers inside, someone obviously put multiple different bundles in the box at some point.

 

[Dryriver1]

Let's put in a few more...
Millers Falls, Buck Rogers era.
Interesting that all three of these are somewhat different from each other. The top one has the deepest throat with the offset exensions on the blade retaining pins and the other two have fairly different angles to the front end of the frame. Of course, those last two could just be from being bent over the years.

This is actually a very nice hacksaw to use. I use the top one a lot and that deeper throat that it has vs most other hacksaws is really quite nice and handy. All need a good cleanup, one in particular...

Hi Rustyzman! I hope all is well wit you and all of your loved ones.

The handles of your Miller Falls hacksaws remind me of the MK1 .22 lr Ruger semi autos.

 

[rustyzman]

Hi Dryriver1!
Yes, they are similar for sure. I really like the feel too, now that it is done. I have an Atkins I did not put a picture up of that needs the same treatment. Maybe when I get to it, I will try a little different version? Checkered maybe?

 

[RTM]

Another new one to me, and maybe this thread (searching by numbers). This one is patent 3480055, filed by Parker Manufacturing in 1968, granted in 1969

US3480055A - Saw holder - Google Patents

Labeled by Craftsman, No. 935481, with an I in a Circle afterwards, which one of the code tables says is Parker Mfg Co, ca. 1962 - 1986, so the stories line up.

The bottom pic shows it open to load the blade, currently set up in push mode

 

[rustyzman]

Nice one RTM. Same one as I have in my previous post pictures (blade is snapped off short in mine). Very comfortable handle. I don't recall seeing a brand name on mine, but I did not look very closely.

 

[RTM]

My name brand and part number is on the chromed bit of blade holder sticking out of the handle in the first pic.

 

[Dryriver1]

Hi Dryriver1!
Yes, they are similar for sure. I really like the feel too, now that it is done. I have an Atkins I did not put a picture up of that needs the same treatment. Maybe when I get to it, I will try a little different version? Checkered maybe?

You came up with a really great ideal!! Would love to see a that if you do it. Be well and stay safe out there. Best wishes to you and all of your loved ones always!

Dryriver1

 

[rustyzman]

Picked up another Millers Falls at an estate sale yesterday. I have the same one at work, but this one has a perfect pair of handle scales and ended up being nearly free, so how could I resist.

 

[mbf1511]

Picked this Harvey W. Peace saw Model 45 up at a Garage Sale one street from my house

 

[AntiqueBen]

When I saw this, I had to buy it. It's the biggest Butchers Saw I've ever seen. Or is this some kind of hack saw? Most butcher saws I've seen don't have a medallion, let alone a 5 screw handle. It has a 26" steel blade & is 37" overall. There are no markings that I can see. It has a Warranted Superior medallion with a Dec 27, 1887 patent date. Anyone familiar with something like this? Is this size with a 5 screw handle an oddity?

 

[oldschoolcraft]

I have one of these in storage somewhere. Made in the US. They used to be at ace hardware and home depot in the 90s. It was my first hacksaw. Are they still considered good to use? Anyone know the manufacturer?

 

[Lesserstore]

I have one of these in storage somewhere. Made in the US. They used to be at ace hardware and home depot in the 90s. It was my first hacksaw. Are they still considered good to use? Anyone know the manufacturer?

Many manufacturers made that style of hack saw. Great Neck still makes them for Ace, Hyper Tough (Walmart), and I think Husky or Anvil still sells those. Great Neck I think is the last manufacturer to make hack saw frames in the US, albeit with foreign components.

 

[d42jeep]

I cleaned up a well used Plomb hacksaw and took a picture of it with my Millers Falls and user Nicholson.
-Don

 

[genog]

I have a fondness for Klein tools so I bought this hacksaw, even though it's a Sandvik

 

[Marsim]

I picked this up yesterday. I can't find much info on it. Anyone know how old it is?

 

[d42jeep]

I posted this in the Powr-Kraft thread but it belongs here as well.
-Don

 

[kwigly]

Marsim. Your hacksaw is not in the 1958 Chcago Specialties catalog and is likely newer (60s, 70s ?) as all the hacksaws in that catalog have lower product number than your 3310
https://archive.org/details/ChicagoSpecialtyMfgCoCatalogNumberTwenty/page/n15/mode/2up

 

[motorcitykid]

While my favorite the Crescent 1046 is mentioned already and several others, this little Plomb 344 is great when applicable.

 

[slowtwitch73]

When my Lennox broke and I was waiting on a warranty replacement, I picked up an old Sandvik at the re store.

Not sure why, but it's a really nice saw.. easy to tension, no backbone flex so no blade jump.. sweet cutting and light...very nice.

 

[tom coffey]

I have a 10x16 building coming, today I hope, and will be hanging all my hacksaws up for display in the next week or so, aong with all my other vintage tools. I will post pics.
I find it interesting that on the first page of this thread, it was pointed out that my junk was not old enough, (or good enough), to be on here. Now this thread is into the 7th page. I suppose others on here like to talk about our worthless junk too.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

have a 10x16 building coming, today I hope, and will be hanging all my hacksaws up for display in the next week or so,

Put a big sign on the roof, like that guy with the hammer museum up in Alaska...., [The Hacksaw Hangout], and a big donations jar at the door.

 

[tom coffey]

I had actually thought about making a giant hacksaw, about 14 ft long to hang on the outside, 16 ft side of the building. I'm sitting at my mother-in-law's house right now waiting for the building movers to meet me here. The building needs to go about 6 miles to my house. They quoted me $450 for the move and I got the building free so I'm happy.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I had actually thought about making a giant hacksaw, about 14 ft long to hang on the outside, 16 ft side of the building.

I love it!

 

[tombell572]

$450 to move a building ? Regardless of size that’s a hell of a deal! Oh, you also said the building was free.

Tom Bell

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

I have a 10x16 building coming, today I hope, and will be hanging all my hacksaws up for display in the next week or so, aong with all my other vintage tools. I will post pics.
I find it interesting that on the first page of this thread, it was pointed out that my junk was not old enough, (or good enough), to be on here. Now this thread is into the 7th page. I suppose others on here like to talk about our worthless junk too.

Let it go Tom. Let it go.

 

[d42jeep]

I took this picture of my two Long C Craftsman hacksaws together in my basement yesterday. I think that this is a great thread!
-Don

 

[tom coffey]

I will be painting, actually staining, the new building to match our house and garage very soon so I might paint on my giant hacksaw. I'm thinking about the design. Thinking about using a straight handle, like the oldest saws.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

...so I might paint on my giant hacksaw.

Painted would be cool.

But I have to admit, when you first proposed the idea, and I heartily endorsed it, I was picturing something 3D affixed to the side. It wouldn't have to be an "actual" hacksaw scaled up perfectly, by the way. Just the representation of a hacksaw would do the trick. Given your junkman attitude you might could even fashion one out of other pieces. I am picturing most of an old brass bed frame, for example, with a large two-handed tree-felling saw suspended between it, and maybe a big old wooden lobster buoy if you can find one, or anything with the general shape of a straight handled hacksaw handle, but bigger.

Something like this, which I just grabbed from internet pics as a quick model, but jury-rig fastened together...



I already mentioned the Hammer Time! Museum up in Haines, Alaska, but here is a photo of their roof for some inspiration, perhaps, and the junkman kind of theme.

 

[tom coffey]

****, I just hauled an old metal bed headboard to the scrapyard!
That proves one should never haul anything to the scrapyard. You might need it!

 

[Ricky Joe]

An old and good one.

 

[cretedog]

Gift from an old friend.

 

[RTM]

Gift from an old friend.

Nice necker knob on the front there.

 

[d42jeep]

A couple of mini hacksaws. The top one is from Milford and the lower one is unmarked.
-Don

 

[slowtwitch73]

Bet that lower one is for bone..

 

[JohntheKDguy]

Here's a hacksaw I brought home from work when I was doing employee tool sales for my coworkers.
This is a KD 99. It appears in the oldest KD catalog I have been able to find, 1942 and continued all the way until 1983. The handle was changed about 1970 to a black rubber type.
It was called a covertable frame hacksaw because of the of the "quick change feature" (the lever). It was able to use 3 inch, 8 inch, 10 inch and 12 blades.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It appears in the oldest KD catalog I have been able to find, 1942

That's not the hacksaw that appears in the 1942 catalog.



Same model number, but different adjusting mechanism.

What you have there is the new and improved version of ye olde No. 99, patented by Harry Kulp in 1950. The patent number (2,531,135) should be stamped with the branding on the dynamic piece, either on the side you're showing or the flip side. Mine is, anyway. If there's no patent number, it's likely fairly modern and they didn't bother displaying the patent number after it expired. I have never seen one with such a shiny finish, which might also be indicative of later production. I posted photos of mine along with a catalog excerpt and the patent diagram in a post upthread linked here.

Their first No. 99 was patented (1,382,448) in 1921 by G.H. Wilkins of Greenfield, Mass. As I said in the K-D thread, I have not been able to determine if they licensed it or bought him out, but they used his design through 1947. It appears in the 1934 and the 1942 catalogs, but is replaced by the new design in the 1948 catalog. Kulp applied for the patent in 1946, so they were making it before it was granted. You can read more about the first hacksaw and see patent diagrams in the K-D thread, post #3. @tombell572 has one of the early models as well. His is posted upthread here. See #126.

Here are both K-D frames, early and later.

 

[JohntheKDguy]

That's not the hacksaw that appears in the 1942 catalog.



Same model number, but different adjusting mechanism.

What you have there is the new and improved version of ye olde No. 99, patented by Harry Kulp in 1950. The patent number (2,531,135) should be stamped with the branding on the dynamic piece, either on the side you're showing or the flip side. Mine is, anyway. If there's no patent number, it's likely fairly modern and they didn't bother displaying the patent number after it expired. I have never seen one with such a shiny finish, which might also be indicative of later production. I posted photos of mine along with a catalog excerpt and the patent diagram in a post upthread linked here.

Their first No. 99 was patented (1,382,448) in 1921 by G.H. Wilkins of Greenfield, Mass. As I said in the K-D thread, I have not been able to determine if they licensed it or bought him out, but they used his design through 1947. It appears in the 1934 and the 1942 catalogs, but is replaced by the new design in the 1948 catalog. Kulp applied for the patent in 1946, so they were making it before it was granted. You can read more about the first hacksaw and see patent diagrams in the K-D thread, post #3. @tombell572 has one of the early models as well. His is posted upthread here. See #126.

Here are both K-D frames, early and later.

It's interesting that you would point that out. I didn't notice that when I was looking at the 42 catalog, and I only have the one version. However I was referring to the part number and description which are the same. Even if i had known the other details, it wouldn't have changed my post.