Halo can light trim questions.

[Voi]

My 18' x 17' living room has 10' sidewalls and a 4/12 pitch bottom chord scissor truss.

It has six Halo H71ct can fixtures that put the lamps at 11'6" off the ground. The trims are an adjustable gimbal that take BR30 or Par30 lamps.

This is not enough light in the evenings, even when swapping out for the highest lumen Par 30's that we can find.

I have moved a few non-adjustable trims that can accept Par38 bulbs into this area and experimented with different lumen intensities, K ratings, etc.

I would like to find a Par38, recessed trim with adjustable gimbal. I would prefer to use bulbs versus the all-in-one LED trims. I'm just not finding the beam angles and lumen intensity I prefer with the angle adjustable, all-in-one trims.

The first one I've found is the Halo 76P.

https://www.cooperlighting.com/global/brands/halo/76-adjustable-gimbal-30-tilt/76p.html

My questions are:

1) Are these compatible with our H71ct cans?

2) In the specs sheet it says 30 degree tilt. Does this mean up to 30 degrees tilt? I have found other Par30 trims that indicate up to when describing adjustability so I was surprised to not see that with this product.

3) How does that differ from the 3 degrees tilt for screw based lamp?

I'm open to suggestions for other products as well.

I'm not against the all-in-one types but would prefer a 25 degree beam and around 1200 lumens. 3000K or the ability to be adjusted to 3000K.

Thanks in advance.

 

[cybrdyke]

My 18' x 17' living room has 10' sidewalls and a 4/12 pitch bottom chord scissor truss.

It has six Halo H71ct can fixtures that put the lamps at 11'6" off the ground. The trims are an adjustable gimbal that take BR30 or Par30 lamps.

This is not enough light in the evenings, even when swapping out for the highest lumen Par 30's that we can find.

I have moved a few non-adjustable trims that can accept Par38 bulbs into this area and experimented with different lumen intensities, K ratings, etc.

I would like to find a Par38, recessed trim with adjustable gimbal. I would prefer to use bulbs versus the all-in-one LED trims. I'm just not finding the beam angles and lumen intensity I prefer with the angle adjustable, all-in-one trims.

The first one I've found is the Halo 76P.

https://www.cooperlighting.com/global/brands/halo/76-adjustable-gimbal-30-tilt/76p.html

My questions are:

1) Are these compatible with our H71ct cans? Yes it does.

2) In the specs sheet it says 30 degree tilt. Does this mean up to 30 degrees tilt? I have found other Par30 trims that indicate up to when describing adjustability so I was surprised to not see that with this product. 30 degrees is the max tilt

3) How does that differ from the 3 degrees tilt for screw based lamp?

I'm open to suggestions for other products as well.

I'm not against the all-in-one types but would prefer a 25 degree beam and around 1200 lumens. 3000K or the ability to be adjusted to 3000K.

Thanks in advance.

Here's one option:
https://www.envisionledlighting.com/led-dl-adj-5-6-16-5w-ww-663.php

Incidentally, Sengled makes a PAR30 long neck that's 3000 lumens in 3000K with a 25 degree beam. https://www.lightbulbs.com/catalog/product_pdfs/sengled/Sengled%2019196%20Specs.pdf

It should be easy to find a PAR38 that's over 1200 lumens in 3000K with a tight beam. I'm curious why you want the tight beam. Normal for that application would be 40 degrees.

 

[Voi]

Here's one option:
https://www.envisionledlighting.com/led-dl-adj-5-6-16-5w-ww-663.php

Incidentally, Sengled makes a PAR30 long neck that's 3000 lumens in 3000K with a 25 degree beam. https://www.lightbulbs.com/catalog/product_pdfs/sengled/Sengled%2019196%20Specs.pdf

It should be easy to find a PAR38 that's over 1200 lumens in 3000K with a tight beam. I'm curious why you want the tight beam. Normal for that application would be 40 degrees.

Thank you so much. I'm not sure why the wife and I didn't find those as we've both been on the lightbulbs.com sight. I've been on vertigo drugs recently which have left me unable to spend long periods of time looking at any screen so I must have just missed that option.

As far as the beam angle, I found one site the recommended beams below 25 degrees for ceilings above a certain amount. I don't recall what site it was nor their exact threshold for going from 25 to 40 degree but we were above it.

I also figured out that with our can spacing and our ceiling height we'd get some overlap on the floor with 25 degree beams.

Likewise, my wife found some Par38 lamps in 25 and 40 degree beams and we liked the narrower beam in the living room better (but in the kitchen which has 9' ceilings - there we liked 40 degree beams better).

However, we only tested the bulbs with fixed trims so they were shining at the approximate 18 degree slope of the ceiling. With hindsight I should have left them dangle straight down to compare the beams.

I can order lamps in both 25 and 40 and try them.

Since I'm probably going to replace all of the trims in the living room regardless, is there any advantage of using Par38 instead of Par30 bulbs?

Also, I see that most of the LED all-in-one trims have wider beam angles. Even the one you linked to has a 60 degree beam angle. I found one last night with an 80 degree beam angle. Do you think these should be ruled out for 11.5' ceiling height?