jeffmoss26
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Spotted this hammer at my buddy's shop over the weekend-
Hammer time!
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Thanks for the advice.You shouldn't cut the top of the handle off flush with the hammer head. Leaving 1/8-1/4 inch above the head strengthens the connection. The "excess" handle material forms a wedge/mushroom that aids in holding the head in place. This is a little trick I learned about half way into my collection. Also, that's a nice collection you have
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Mine are mostly in an old Kennedy 8 drawer roller, I have a double set of BP's on a wood peg rack in my work room, and I have some handy near my vise on wire loops on the handle of one of the craftsman rollers; the wire is insulate 12 Ga. electrical. I think there are pics in this thread, (I know I've posted pics of them somewhere...)
balane
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I can't find much out about this hammer. I assume the original handle broke and it was replaced with the current one, does that sound right? Is it old? I've had some Bell System marked tools in the past, mostly pliers, but I've never heard of this handle manufacturer before.... but that doesn't mean much because I don't buy a lot of hammers.
The overall weight is 1 Lb. 15 Oz. It's a little over 12" long. The wood handle decal says it's an Indian Fire IF104-13 in Indian Hickory and manufactured by Sequatchie Handle Works, Inc. in Sequatchie TN. The hammer head is stamped only BELL SYSTEM
Thanks.
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The overall weight is 1 Lb. 15 Oz. It's a little over 12" long. The wood handle decal says it's an Indian Fire IF104-13 in Indian Hickory and manufactured by Sequatchie Handle Works, Inc. in Sequatchie TN. The hammer head is stamped only BELL SYSTEM
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oldldh
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My Wife ordered the Tekton ball peins for my Father's Day present...
They aren't here, yet...
When they get here, I'll post new photos...
Outlaw---After searching "Tekton" on this thread, there were no mentions...
Well, there will be now...I know they're Chinese (I hope they're from Taiwan...), but they'll do for an old B@#tard like me...
8/12/16/24/32 and a 48 oz hammer for about $ 8.50 each/delivered---ain't too shabby...
The Dead blows will come next month...16/24/32/48 and 64 oz for $ 12.50 delivered will do...
They aren't here, yet...
When they get here, I'll post new photos...
Outlaw---After searching "Tekton" on this thread, there were no mentions...
Well, there will be now...I know they're Chinese (I hope they're from Taiwan...), but they'll do for an old B@#tard like me...
8/12/16/24/32 and a 48 oz hammer for about $ 8.50 each/delivered---ain't too shabby...
The Dead blows will come next month...16/24/32/48 and 64 oz for $ 12.50 delivered will do...
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altersaddle
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I'm trying to figure out what I have here. It's a cross peen hammer, on the handle upside down, and it's cast steel. I'm trying to figure out who made it.
All I can tell is that the maker had at least one son.
On the left: ???? & SON ???HAM
On the right: SOLID CAST STEEL 4
Birmingham? Cheatham? Hamham?
All I can tell is that the maker had at least one son.
On the left: ???? & SON ???HAM
On the right: SOLID CAST STEEL 4
Birmingham? Cheatham? Hamham?
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Originally Posted by Youngguns View Post
You shouldn't cut the top of the handle off flush with the hammer head. Leaving 1/8-1/4 inch above the head strengthens the connection. The "excess" handle material forms a wedge/mushroom that aids in holding the head in place. This is a little trick I learned about half way into my collection. Also, that's a nice collection you have
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Originally Posted by Youngguns View Post
You shouldn't cut the top of the handle off flush with the hammer head. Leaving 1/8-1/4 inch above the head strengthens the connection. The "excess" handle material forms a wedge/mushroom that aids in holding the head in place. This is a little trick I learned about half way into my collection. Also, that's a nice collection you have
Is this good ?
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d.mcfarland
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I would think it would be forged, not cast.
altersaddle
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I'm just going on what was stamped on the cheek.
Apparenrly, "solid cast steel" is a term for crucible steel in England. The steel ingot is cast, but is then forged into shapes.
It's definitely not cast iron. I'm pretty sure now that it's from the UK, but that doesn't really narrow down the origin - there were plenty of tool makers whose trade names ended in & SON and were located in somewhere ending in HAM.
d.mcfarland
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Ok I see what you're saying. No idea what the English manufacturers would be though.
woody 73
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I'm trying to figure out what I have here. It's a cross peen hammer, on the handle upside down, and it's cast steel. I'm trying to figure out who made it.
All I can tell is that the maker had at least one son.
On the left: ???? & SON ???HAM
On the right: SOLID CAST STEEL 4
Birmingham? Cheatham? Hamham?
I too am stumped...
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altersaddle
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woody_73, that's a very interesting example. Yours has the same "SOLID CAST STEEL" stamp, I'm guessing a #2 is a lighter hammer.
I was not able to find anything about that monogram / trade mark / maker's mark after much googling. Even tried to use their image search.
I did learn that a cross peen, or cross pein hammer is also known as a pin hammer or warrington pattern hammer.
I was not able to find anything about that monogram / trade mark / maker's mark after much googling. Even tried to use their image search.
I did learn that a cross peen, or cross pein hammer is also known as a pin hammer or warrington pattern hammer.
jakemac
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OK, I'll join in with a mystery hammer.
I picked this up at an estate sale. At first I thought it might be a body hammer, but now I'm wondering if it might be a cobbler's hammer. I was originally going to strip and paint it, but when I put it on the wire wheel to clean off the rust before stripping it, I found a maker's stamp hiding under the rust.
The stamp says :
U.H. TRULL
MERRIMAC
MASS
Google has no info on this toolmaker that I can find. So, I thought that I'd consult the masters. For now, I'll leave it alone. Does anyone know what it is ?
I picked this up at an estate sale. At first I thought it might be a body hammer, but now I'm wondering if it might be a cobbler's hammer. I was originally going to strip and paint it, but when I put it on the wire wheel to clean off the rust before stripping it, I found a maker's stamp hiding under the rust.
The stamp says :
U.H. TRULL
MERRIMAC
MASS
Google has no info on this toolmaker that I can find. So, I thought that I'd consult the masters. For now, I'll leave it alone. Does anyone know what it is ?
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Burgerkong
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Just got a few OSCA ball peens, have been dressing them by hand so not really perfect but I got the peen portion close to a mirror finish. For something Italian they're finished pretty roughly. Handle finish is non existent - wonder if I should strip and reshape the handle then char and oil it.
Maybe I'll go back with the sanding disc on the hammer face to get all the marks out. Or go to a more aggressive polishing compound.
Maybe I'll go back with the sanding disc on the hammer face to get all the marks out. Or go to a more aggressive polishing compound.
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Beaumont67
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Auto Body Hammers (left 2 right) with original handles:
a) Snap-On BF604 USA...bought it new 40 years ago (with summer job money), off the truck ($55).
- my favorite tool, and face still free of dents, impressive forged durability
b) Snap-On BF606 USA...$55 off e-bay / used very little, near mint
c) Snap-On BF611 USA...$25 off e-bay / used very little, near mint
d) Proto 1426 USA...for installing door skins / paid $34 new for it, 25 years ago
PS - and the old lead file board, is pretty cool...$3 garage sale purchase, with brand new file.
a) Snap-On BF604 USA...bought it new 40 years ago (with summer job money), off the truck ($55).
- my favorite tool, and face still free of dents, impressive forged durability
b) Snap-On BF606 USA...$55 off e-bay / used very little, near mint
c) Snap-On BF611 USA...$25 off e-bay / used very little, near mint
d) Proto 1426 USA...for installing door skins / paid $34 new for it, 25 years ago
PS - and the old lead file board, is pretty cool...$3 garage sale purchase, with brand new file.
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I just bought one that looks an awful lot like that brass one... may post a picture later.Guess I never posted pictures of these 2 I got sometime last month.
The metal one is probably shop made, it's steel and says FIRESTONE on the shaft.
As of today, it has a handle!
Finky198
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Got them all together today
16oz 48oz HF deadblows
Estwing 3lb drilling hammer
Estwing 24oz rubber tipped hammer with oiled handle
Estwing 16oz ball pein hammer with oiled handle
Snappy 16oz and 40oz ball pein deadblows
Snappy 24oz bronze tip hammer
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HF 32oz deadblow
Craftsman 4oz 8oz ball peins
Estwing Rubber mallet
16oz 48oz HF deadblows
Estwing 3lb drilling hammer
Estwing 24oz rubber tipped hammer with oiled handle
Estwing 16oz ball pein hammer with oiled handle
Snappy 16oz and 40oz ball pein deadblows
Snappy 24oz bronze tip hammer
Added a
HF 32oz deadblow
Craftsman 4oz 8oz ball peins
Estwing Rubber mallet
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Jarhead0408
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Those HF's remind me a lot of the old Stanley Compocast hammers. They still make them, but those look like the old ones.
Finky198
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bought them one time have had no issues in 4yrs I just clean them with a scrub brush and some degreaser once in a while same as the snap on ones
I needed a cheap claw hammer. Picked this up for 3 bux! It has great reviews
Here's my hammer drawer as of lately. I sold my snap on 32oz dead blow ball peen and snagged a estwing 3lb which I like a lot more for a bfh
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Here's my hammer drawer as of lately. I sold my snap on 32oz dead blow ball peen and snagged a estwing 3lb which I like a lot more for a bfh
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GINIK
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PWRstroke_smoke
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An old cross pein hammer from TOR.
12 oz.
Cleaned up on a wire brush wheel.
Before and after pictures.
Love those old ball/cross peens Grinik!
PWRstroke_smoke
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No that hammer was custom made for me by a very talented blacksmith on the east coast. Its my main smithing hammer too.
GINIK
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oldldh
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timdp
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Just finished reading the whole thread and was thinking "Man, some of you guys have a lot of hammers.", then started thinking about how many hammers I have. Hmmm, something about the pot calling the kettle black comes to mind...
No idea where to start so let's start with some classics. Early Chinese body tool set from late '70's to early '80s. I do have the missing piece. Think they are collectable yet?
I made custom lost wax cast gold jewelry for a living from 1978 to 1995 and these are my hammers. The three on the left are fully polished for making finished polished surfaces. The hammers used the most are the chasing hammer with the fat **** for hammering on hand made stone setting tools, a light brass and nylon headed hammer and a rawhide mallet.
<a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/timdps/media/Garage/DSCN6614_zpsu6oqaybq.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Garage/DSCN6614_zpsu6oqaybq.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSCN6614_zpsu6oqaybq.jpg"/></a>
Then what seems to be everyone's favorites here, the sledges and ball peins.
Big one on top is a 13 pound fence post sledge. Was purchased for setting posts for barbed wire obstacles for WWII reenacting. Largest ball pein and the red handled one are Plumbs. Smaller sledge and green headed ball pein are HF. Cross pein head is a Stanley. No name on the larger sledge but there are markings (pics below).
<a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/timdps/media/Garage/DSCN6615_zpsivso2hoy.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Garage/DSCN6615_zpsivso2hoy.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSCN6615_zpsivso2hoy.jpg"/></a>
Claws and soft heads. No ID on the long handled 20 oz. on the right, but its my go to hammer with nice balance. The all metal brass/nylon hammer in the middle should be recognizable to anyone who has ever taken a machine shop class. I made it in the early '70s. The balance is bad, but its a useful hammer so it gets used.
Last but not least we have the reenacting hammers (and axes). At the top is a modern Russian military style axe. I quite like using it. Below it with the yellow handle is a modern Russian military hatchet that I bought hoping to use the handle on the 1916 dated WWI Russian military hatchet, but to no avail. The eye in the 1916 hatchet is huge - nearly 1 1/4' by 2" (eye pic below) and I have been having no luck finding a handle for it. Handle should be styled similar to the Russian axe and around 16" to 18" long. Any help appreciated... Missing from this photo is the Austrian WWII era mountain climbing piton hammer that I could not find tonight.
On the left we have the gunner's tool kit for the Russian DSHK heavy machine gun (equivalent to the US .50 M2HB) with its large wooden mallet and smaller engineer's (?) hammer. Any Russian mechanic worth his salt will have a large selection of hammers with which to work on things. Once watched one install a vehicle water pump by hammering on the end of the water pump drive shaft...
I know there are a few more hammers here and there, but putting hands on them in a halfway organized garage was not happening tonight.
No idea where to start so let's start with some classics. Early Chinese body tool set from late '70's to early '80s. I do have the missing piece. Think they are collectable yet?
I made custom lost wax cast gold jewelry for a living from 1978 to 1995 and these are my hammers. The three on the left are fully polished for making finished polished surfaces. The hammers used the most are the chasing hammer with the fat **** for hammering on hand made stone setting tools, a light brass and nylon headed hammer and a rawhide mallet.
<a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/timdps/media/Garage/DSCN6614_zpsu6oqaybq.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Garage/DSCN6614_zpsu6oqaybq.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSCN6614_zpsu6oqaybq.jpg"/></a>
Then what seems to be everyone's favorites here, the sledges and ball peins.
Big one on top is a 13 pound fence post sledge. Was purchased for setting posts for barbed wire obstacles for WWII reenacting. Largest ball pein and the red handled one are Plumbs. Smaller sledge and green headed ball pein are HF. Cross pein head is a Stanley. No name on the larger sledge but there are markings (pics below).
<a href="http://s16.photobucket.com/user/timdps/media/Garage/DSCN6615_zpsivso2hoy.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/timdps/Garage/DSCN6615_zpsivso2hoy.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo DSCN6615_zpsivso2hoy.jpg"/></a>
Claws and soft heads. No ID on the long handled 20 oz. on the right, but its my go to hammer with nice balance. The all metal brass/nylon hammer in the middle should be recognizable to anyone who has ever taken a machine shop class. I made it in the early '70s. The balance is bad, but its a useful hammer so it gets used.
Last but not least we have the reenacting hammers (and axes). At the top is a modern Russian military style axe. I quite like using it. Below it with the yellow handle is a modern Russian military hatchet that I bought hoping to use the handle on the 1916 dated WWI Russian military hatchet, but to no avail. The eye in the 1916 hatchet is huge - nearly 1 1/4' by 2" (eye pic below) and I have been having no luck finding a handle for it. Handle should be styled similar to the Russian axe and around 16" to 18" long. Any help appreciated... Missing from this photo is the Austrian WWII era mountain climbing piton hammer that I could not find tonight.
On the left we have the gunner's tool kit for the Russian DSHK heavy machine gun (equivalent to the US .50 M2HB) with its large wooden mallet and smaller engineer's (?) hammer. Any Russian mechanic worth his salt will have a large selection of hammers with which to work on things. Once watched one install a vehicle water pump by hammering on the end of the water pump drive shaft...
I know there are a few more hammers here and there, but putting hands on them in a halfway organized garage was not happening tonight.
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