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Mallen

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The CS rep from Irwin Hanson just tried to convince me that my Henry L Hanson Ace tap set was "made by Ace Hanson" and that I need to contact Ace hardware for warranty service. Am I crazy or are they vocalizing from their ******?
 
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What they are saying is BS. I looked up the Ace Hanson trademark, and it last belonged to Irwin before they let the trademark die and not Ace Hardware. (Although it may have been sold exclusively at Ace.)
 

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From http://progress-is-fine.blogspot.com/2014/01/vanished-tool-makers-henry-l-hanson.html

In 1975, the company moved to a modern facility in the same city. At some point, the company became a part of the Irwin tool empire (now a part of Newell Rubbermaid), where the name is still used as a brand. Unfortunately, according to comments I've read on various web forums, the taps and dies under this brand name are now made in China and are considered to be of very poor quality.
 

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^ that is disappointing. I filled in all the holes in my taps and dies a couple years ago with NOS US-made ACE from Ebay. there's still quite a bit of it out there in the marketplace.
 
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What they are saying is BS. I looked up the Ace Hanson trademark, and it last belonged to Irwin before they let the trademark die and not Ace Hardware. (Although it may have been sold exclusively at Ace.)
My understanding is that they were sold all over the place and had no relation whatsoever to ace hardware.
 
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I bought an "Ace Super Set" of Hanson of taps and dies from a True Value Hardware store in 1972. That was a designation of the set chosen by Hanson.

The "Customer Disservice Representative" was misleading you. But you don't want their current offshore junk anyway.
 
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Mallen

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I told them that the Hanson ACE taps were a brand of HL Hanson and that it had nothing to do with ACE hardware. They replied asking me what size taps I needed and verifying they had the correct address. Ill believe it when I see it, but it looks like they might just be sending me the taps
 
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From http://progress-is-fine.blogspot.com/2014/01/vanished-tool-makers-henry-l-hanson.html

In 1975, the company moved to a modern facility in the same city. At some point, the company became a part of the Irwin tool empire (now a part of Newell Rubbermaid), where the name is still used as a brand. Unfortunately, according to comments I've read on various web forums, the taps and dies under this brand name are now made in China and are considered to be of very poor quality.
Well, my experience is, they are not particularly good quality. But at least they are not like the cheap sets you find on eBay or at swap meets. Some of them actually will bend, which I guess in some ways is good when it gets stuck because it's so dull. The Irwin taps are at least hardened heat treated steel of some sort. They don't hold their edge well, and they don't work well and they wear out quickly, but at least they DO work. If you need to drill out a hole to the next large size and thread it, it will work unlike the ebay sets that are good for chasing threads but that's about it.
 

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I believe that Hanson Ace sets were made of carbon steel. They don't hold an edge as well as tool steel, but they aren't as brittle.

I'm still using my set that is about 50 years old. It has only seen occasional use, confined to repairs and "farm" work, but soldiers on. The 1/4-20 has been replaced, but that size is the most often broken one from any manufacturer.
 
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Well, everything was back ordered but it's been trickling in. I received the 10-32 tap a few weeks ago and yesterday I received the die chuck. They sent me the hex chuck instead of the round one though. I dont think it's worth making them send the right one. I'll call it good. I can fix mine easily enough. I just need to get a #10 filister head screw file that one little broken part from a scrap of steel.
 
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