Tarheelgarage
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I'll check tomorrow when I go in....
Harbor Freight Autel DS708!?!?
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I'll check tomorrow when I go in....
articsilber323
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Tarheelgarage
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OK, just checked the serial number of the one here at work and there is a Q in the sixth location.
HTH
HTH
articsilber323
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great! thanks so much for checking!
Jarhead0408
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Here's a bump for you:
I have no idea if this has Q in the serial number or not, but its got a pretty nice price tag!
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/tls/4740879627.html
I have no idea if this has Q in the serial number or not, but its got a pretty nice price tag!
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/tls/4740879627.html
atikovi
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They don't charge sales tax? That would ad another $50 for me. I see used ones on Ebay ending around $650. Debating which way to go.
dnschmidt
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I had a discussion with an Autel Rep in the Autel booth at AAPEX. He swears on a stack of bibles that these are not supported by Autel USA. And that in fact they are no longer available from Harbor Freight.
Has anybody received one of these from Harbor Freight in the last two weeks? According to him this has been stopped. What’s the real deal? He did confirm that the “Q” in the serial number identifies it as a North American unit.
Has anybody received one of these from Harbor Freight in the last two weeks? According to him this has been stopped. What’s the real deal? He did confirm that the “Q” in the serial number identifies it as a North American unit.
twostooge7
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I just ordered the ds708 from harbor freight and registered today and did most recent update with no issues
alteredpilot
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anyone here make a purchase more recently? curious about the support issue. the 20% off coupon is back and my genisys took a ****.
737mechanic
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Here is a link from Autel saying they will discontinue the DS708 in 2016 but still provide updates until 2020.
DS708 discontinue notice from Autel
On the other hand if you did buy one from Harbor Freight and had any problems with it wouldn't they refund your money?
DS708 discontinue notice from Autel
On the other hand if you did buy one from Harbor Freight and had any problems with it wouldn't they refund your money?
jeepnatv4life
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anyone having issues?? I have a coupon for 25% on July 4th and Im in the market to get a scanner with actuating controls
dnschmidt
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Buy the damn thing. It's the best deal on Earth for a bidirectional scanner. The HF units do have the Q in the serial number and update flawlessly. JUST DO IT!!!
jeepnatv4life
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dnschmidt
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Yes, I am.
when I downloaded the user manual, I could not find the bi-directional section in it. how long does it take to boot up every time you hook up to a vehicle? Once you disconnect from the car, it shuts off, right? there is no internal battery? can it log the data as you are driving and then later analyze either on the scanner or on the computer? am I asking too much of a $1000 scanner? may be but even some $100 scanner can do the stuff which I just listed
NewShockerGuy
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That makes it freaking tempting man!!! Now I am wondering if I just wated 200 for the MD802!!
Damn really that seems to be a great deal for 800...!
-Nigel
kythri
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Yes, actually, in many cases, it would be.
There's a big difference between a retailer importing quantities for resale and an individual importing a car for personal use.
There's legal precedence (under copyright law, of all places) that companies have been able to prohibit import (or apply punitive damages to importers of) of "grey market" goods - i.e. buying direct from a factory that's violating agreements with the product creator/owner, or buying from foreign distribution channels where the product is sold far cheaper.
https://www.fenwick.com/FenwickDocuments/Zimmerman_CRI_article_Oct2011.pdf
This details a couple cases, but basically, it boils down to quantity foreign purchases intended for domestic retail do not have Right of First Sale protection under US copyright law, and since the products in question have copyrightable elements upon them, their import and sale is a violation.
It's an awesome extension and abuse of copyright, but that's how it currently is.
If HF wasn't an authorized dealer, and was importing these from China, Autel could have shut this down long ago, EASILY.
HF may still be an "unauthorized" dealer, but if they are, they're likely getting their products from a domestic source, rather than factory-direct, and that domestic source does appear to be selling them domestic market product as evidenced here, otherwise, again, Autel could have gone after HF to find their supplier, and shut THEM down.
Really, the only thing Autel could do is stop selling their product to whoever is supplying HF, but, I imagine with quite a few folks whose products are being sold through mass-market channels (i.e. Amazon, eBay, etc.) and claim that those are not authorized channels and therefore not officially supported, they turn a blind eye to this, because it makes them a ton of money. They pay lip-service to the authorized dealers who complain, so as not to lose those channels, but they don't actually do anything about it.
I remember the kerfuffle over the Power Probe and Amazon - Power Probe Inc. swears up and down that Amazon isn't authorized to sell these, but, magically, Amazon's supplier still manages to get them to Amazon.
dnschmidt
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Ask yourself a simple question. Who would you rather piss off some authorized dealers who sell ten of these a year or Harbor Freight who sells ten of these an hour and also sells all of your other code readers and scanners (rebranded of course but made by Autel) at every one of their stores. Probably at least 100,000 of those a year.
These are legit units and have the Q. What else matters.
These are legit units and have the Q. What else matters.
JonnyMac
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So here is how Autel operate globally.
I was researching our autel purchase and the official retailer of them wanted from memory around $3000. However a google search revealed that autel.com.au was selling them for considerably less. Strange I thought so I emailrd autel directly and asked (mainly to ensure they werent fake) if they knew of this website. They reponded and said yes they were genuine units and were aware of the site.
The summary is that autel will sell anyone there products regardless of whether they have an authorized status or not.
I was researching our autel purchase and the official retailer of them wanted from memory around $3000. However a google search revealed that autel.com.au was selling them for considerably less. Strange I thought so I emailrd autel directly and asked (mainly to ensure they werent fake) if they knew of this website. They reponded and said yes they were genuine units and were aware of the site.
The summary is that autel will sell anyone there products regardless of whether they have an authorized status or not.
atikovi
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My tool distributor has a promo for $840 with a free AULAL519 bonus thrown in. If the 708 wasn't going away soon it might be a good deal but I can imagine some deeper discounts next year on a discontinued tool.
They also have the MS908 for $1,825 with a free MAXICHECKPRO but that's a bit much for me.
They also have the MS908 for $1,825 with a free MAXICHECKPRO but that's a bit much for me.
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HF is advertising the Autel MaxiDAS for 1099.00.
Now that this thread is a little older has any of the original owners of the 708 from HF had any issues getting updates?
Now that this thread is a little older has any of the original owners of the 708 from HF had any issues getting updates?
Laracar
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Price goes cheaper here (http://www.autelscanner.com/products/Autel-MaxiDAS-DS708_746.html)
$907 plus free shipping
$907 plus free shipping
atikovi
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$600 Black Friday special from a wholesale distributor. Think I'll grab one.
Brownsfan
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Which one ?
atikovi
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Isn.
atikovi
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Just tried this on a 2013 Chevy Cruze and it seems to diagnose all the modules and perform various activations. Was about to buy a GM MDI plus a laptop to use it with thinking that was the only platform that would work. Beginning to really like this tool.
lbhsbz
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Autel is not supporting to tool with updates since it's not sourced through the proper channels...just like buying one out of China on EBay, last I heard
atikovi
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Updates for what. Unless you plan on using it on 2016 or 2017 models what do you need updates for?
lbhsbz
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To fix holes in the software. Without support, that tool will not be a good investment.
atikovi
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The "software" is built in the tool, no hole to fix. If there are any problems, you would find out pretty soon and get it fixed under warranty.
Diagnostic Consultant
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The DS708 has been stopped from production last November 2016. Autel has replaced this with the New Maxisys MS906. It has exactly the same diagnostic capability its just on a faster / modern operating system and interface. Its really good for troubleshooting and fault find/ clearing codes. But its limited on Coding.
If you want to learn on what the differences are in the new Maxisys series.. go to www.Auteltech.co.za . I will explain the differences so you can make an educated decision