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Mr.Nutcase

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Today is the first time I have gone to Harbor freight store, it smells funny...
I bought a dial indicator base, I plan on buying a better dial indicator.....
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You'll have to make a big jump to get a better dial indicator. Like Starrett or equivalent because tools sold at auto supply stores, Sears, etc. will most likely be from the same Chinese source.
 
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You'll have to make a big jump to get a better dial indicator. Like Starrett or equivalent because tools sold at auto supply stores, Sears, etc. will most likely be from the same Chinese source.

On the dial indicator, yes... i will upgrade to brands like Starrett, Brown & Sharpe
 

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Yeah, harbor freight does have a certain "funk" to it...I figure it's a combination of sweatshop stink and rat piss from the ships' hulls.
 

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My kids and I say that that smell is the smell of China. At least Chinese goods :)

You can find some good tools there and some bad ones. I agree with the earlier comment that many of the other brands...lower to medium such as sears, etc. likely come from the same source.
 

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LMAO... speaking of funk, has anyone bought the red rags there? I'm always tempted to send them through the wash first before I use them lol..
 

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My kids and I say that that smell is the smell of China. At least Chinese goods :)

You can find some good tools there and some bad ones. I agree with the earlier comment that many of the other brands...lower to medium such as sears, etc. likely come from the same source.

WalMart warehouses have that same funky smell.

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funny thing is, we have ordered stone, furniture, bathroom accessories, and millwork from China before. Same smell. It really is the smell of "made in China". But I've also been there, and China doesn't smell like that. Weird.
 

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If you're planning on getting a ~$150 indicator, might as well get a good base too. I spent almost as much on a base as the indicator was, but I kind of "need" it to be good quality. I guess a cheaper one would work for just random jobs and whatnot.

Now, I was talking test indicators, not just regular 1" travel dials. If you're looking at those kind, a regular Starrett or Mitutoyo would do you well. As far as test indicators, I would say Interapid is by far the best.

I think a MAC truck has more of the "Taiwan" smell :D
 

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That smell........cosmoline.......I remember when I bought an SKS in the crate, same smell.

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It's the rubber products in particular. Whatever softening chemical they use in it, probably. I have to keep their wheel chocks in my shed. (Still, they were cheap wheel chocks.)
 
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The red rags went through the wash OK.

A little on the thin side, but they get the job done :)
 

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rice boxes smell ' funny'

That is not very nice (it is especially interesting to note how political sarcasm got me modited a few days back but this type of statement bothers our mods nought).
 
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That is not very nice (it is especially interesting to note how political sarcasm got me modited a few days back but this type of statement bothers our mods nought).

Ya.. Pretty racist. Sad :(

Are you two ladies SERIOUS??? REALLY?

Maybe one of those guys who "offended" you just happens to be the president of "The Non-Partisan Anti-Chinese League"

Quick, who can name the movie?:lol_hitti
 

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Well Jeff,

To keep this on topic, I am of the school of thought that some bargains are to be found at HF, but man lemons lurk there (and definitely stay away from the consumables).

I have kin in Union County GA. FTR: This is the neck of the woods where Eric Robert Rudolph hid out (seen by many there as a hero). Racist comments do not raise eyebrows: "the only ***'s who live in this town live in the cemetery" was one neat thing I heard at age 10 while having breakfast at my cousins. Not to suggest you are a racist RNHB (like some of my kin) just because you are from GA.

I only commented because super-mod JO edited a very mild political comment (and a response at that) a few days back. I said "yeah, Bush had things well in hand" in response to a pointed comment about Obama. Apparently that was too much for GJ. Don't get me wrong, I think racist comments should be allowed here at GJ, I am just mad that my political sarcasm gets deleted.

Hypothetical; if you were at my family barbecue, with my asian family members in attendance, would you call them 'rice' to their faces? Or would you maintain a facade out of shame. See, in North GA, progressives are quiet when they are afraid a RNHB will beat them, RNHB are are quiet when they are ashamed. Imagine being married to an asian woman and creating a little girl with her. now imagine her cruising GJ reading about smelly rice boxes.
 
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Well Jeff,

I have kin in Union County GA. FTR: This is the neck of the woods where Eric Robert Rudolph hid out (seen by many there as a hero). Racist comments do not raise eyebrows: "the only ***'s who live in this town live in the cemetery" was one neat thing I heard at age 10 while having breakfast at my cousins. Not to suggest you are a racist RNHB (like some of my kin) just because you are from GA.

I only commented because super-mod JO edited a very mild political comment (and a response at that) a few days back. I said "yeah, Bush had things well in hand" in response to a pointed comment about Obama. Apparently that was too much for GJ. Don't get me wrong, I think racist comments should be allowed here at GJ, I am just mad that my political sarcasm gets deleted.

Hypothetical; if you were at my family barbecue, with my asian family members in attendance, would you call them 'rice' to their faces? Or would you maintain a facade out of shame. See, in North GA, progressives are quiet when they are afraid a RNHB will beat them, RNHB are are quiet when they are ashamed. Imagine being married to an asian woman and creating a little girl with her. now imagine her cruising GJ reading about smelly rice boxes.

Well, I don't think that the overall sarcasm towards Chinese goods qualifies as racist or political. I mean come on. Really. Nobody said anything about Asian people. The comments were directed towards offshore cheap Chinese labor and products. To accuse someone of being a racist for making the "rice comment" about imported Chinese goods is absurd.

Oh, and since it's expected and the standard canned response to these types of accusations, I'll just go ahead and say it. "Hell, I've got FRIENDS who are Asian!" :lol_hitti

It's true though. I do.:bounce:
 

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I didn't really say any thing about you. But, since you comment, do you call your Asian friends rice-heads? If you do, would you call them rice-heads in front of their parents or grandparents? If no to the 2nd question; then why? Because you know it is disrespectful. I'd wager to say you don't make comments about 'smelly rice boxes' to your asian friend's family members because it would not be nice, and you are a nice guy (you didn't flame me too bad for my lecture).

The political discourse was stifled in another thread. "Spidergearsman" made the smelly box comment in this thread. I see his comment as a Beevis & Butthead snickery sort of comment about...(if you have to ask) which threw in 'rice' because of the nature of this thread. Uh, you said 'box'. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
 
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I didn't really say any thing about you. But, since you comment, do you call your Asian friends rice-heads? If you do, would you call them rice-heads in front of their parents or grandparents? If no to the 2nd question; then why? Because you know it is disrespectful. I'd wager to say you don't make comments about 'smelly rice boxes' to your asian friend's family members because it would not be nice, and you are a nice guy (you didn't flame me too bad for my lecture).

The political discourse was stifled in another thread. "Spidergearsman" made the smelly box comment in this thread. I see his comment as a Beevis & Butthead snickery sort of comment about...(if you have to ask) which threw in 'rice' because of the nature of this thread. Uh, you said 'box'. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
One of my dearest friends in this world is a "full-blooded" Puerto-Rican. The constant comments from me about goat husbandry and my perceived notions about his affinity for hubcaps is ongoing. Don't worry though. He gives at least as good as he gets with comments of his own concerning alleged tooth-count deficiencies, intra-family dating and so forth.

His wife of over 30 years is an absolutely delightful human being who also happens to be Korean. He met her over there in the late 1970's when he was in the army. While I've never used a "rice comment" around her, my often and openly spoken nickname for her is "Su-Lee" (ever watch MASH?).

One time, when he was explaining to someone that his wife was having difficulty in a particular endeavor due to English being a second language for her, I butted in and said; "so, are you trying to say that English is not a second language for you?" He got a kick out of that and responded with his own salvo of pointed insults.

All is good.:thumbup:

IMHO, sensitivity is WAAAAY overrated.
 
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Jack, are you referring to the little orange ones? I've never noticed any smell emanating from them...:headscrat
No, I'm talking about the black one. It works well, but it does have a smell to it.

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That is not very nice (it is especially interesting to note how political sarcasm got me modited a few days back but this type of statement bothers our mods nought).
I had no idea what SpiderGearsMan meant by that. If I thought it would be commonly understood as a racist remark, or if someone PM'd me about that, I might remove it. I still will, if it offends someone. But it seems so out of step with currently used language to me that I'm honestly not 100% clear on what it means.

I don't remember who was on what side in the Bush/Obama ruining the economy remarks in the other thread. I do know the issue didn't have anything to do with the subject of the thread, so I deleted it before there was a lot of time-wasting back and forth. If you feel strongly about Bush or Obama, I'd encourage you to get involved in the political process. But it doesn't have anything to do with garages, so it doesn't make sense for that involvement to take place here.

Sarcasm, by definition, is supposed to involve 'wit' used in a way that is 'caustic.' As I said, I don't remember who said what about Bush or Obama, but neither statement fit the definition of sarcasm. They were just complaints.
 
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To keep this on topic, I am of the school of thought that some bargains are to be found at HF, but man lemons lurk there (and definitely stay away from the consumables).


Well I don't buy hardly any consumables at harbor freight, the only consumables I have bought besides nitrile gloves are the 3 inch and 4.5 inch cut off wheels. And frankly, they are GREAT. I'm so impressed with them I'm probably going to get all my grinding consumables from HF from now on and stop getting the dewalts from theisen's. Or at least give them all a try.

BTW I kind of like the smell of harbor freight. I tend to like most industrial smells: rubber, grinding, welding, oil (not gear oil), sawdust, etc., although not solvent.

P.S. lubricating oil that starts burning from the heat of machining and the milky-white coolant used on CNC machines and big bandsaws are probably my two favorites. How's that for goofy.
 
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Maybe this will help the cardboard / paper issue.

I have been in the car business for over 32 years and most of the dealers I have worked for, usually had an import line of some sort. Experience has shown me that, their packaging was of lessor quality and just plain flemsy. I learned some years ago why that was the case.

In the early 90's, our city started offering recycling bins for cardboard. The proceeds went to the local Easter Seal center. The only stipulation to what could be put in them, was cardboard from a source in southeast Asia.(imported cardboard)

After a couple of questions, I found out why. You see, as a rule, wood and related wood products are not used for their paper related products. They use quicker, renewable resources for this consumable. That is the reason for using rice and its byproducts for packaging and writing on.

Some other uses:
You can make flour, pudding, bread, cakes, and even candy from the kernels. Rice straw can be made into fuel or as thatch for the roofs of houses and sheds. It can also be twisted into rope, made into sandals, mats, rugs, blankets, brooms, raincoats, and even boots! Sometimes the stalks are pressed for the oil that is in them. It is also used for wine, milk, and noodles.

The hulls can be used in industry for polishing, as fertilizer, or for making paper and wallboard. People are still trying to find new uses for rice. The Japanese are trying to turn rice hulls into cosmetics and photographic film.

Now that the wet cardboard has been explained, how about the cosmoline. Since it is basically a petroleum product, it was/is used to package firearms, long time storage of machine parts, tools, cars and trucks. A salt water ride from anywhere is hard on finishes. Painted or bare metal. Back in the day, (before the U.S imposed rust through standards on car makers) a bath of cosmoline remover was given to all of the import vehicles. It sucked.

Since Jack covered the rubber related products, that should pretty well round out the aromatic inside of an import store.

Now you know the rest of the story and why the "rice box" was an accurate description. Sheesh :lol_hitti
 
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