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Hard-Wired GFCI for Sewer Lift Pump?

pancho400cid

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I have a sewer lift pump behind my house to pump the effluent out to the city sewer line out at the street. We recently had drain issues and I had Roto-Rooter come out (on a Sunday AM) to clear the line. To make a long story short, at least part of the issue was that the lift pump had come partially un-plugged so the pump wasn't running. There is a GFCI receptacle and regular 120 VAC plug for the pump motor. I don't know the motor rating, but I know the float switch that controls it is rated at 13 amps so the motor draws less than that. I noticed the plug wasn't fully inserted and as soon as I plugged it in fully the pump ran and the drain cleared. I want to avoid that in the future so I'm thinking of hard-wiring it.

Q1 - Is GFCI required? There is a "practical" and a "code" aspect to the question. I'll follow the code if there is a suspicion that GFCI is a requirement.

Q2 - Any reason the blank-face GFCI linked below (or equivalent) wouldn't work?

Blank-Face GFCI

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The GFCI is required. You could use a GFCI breaker, but you still need a disconnect. How about the GFCI you linked and a 120V twist-lock plug?

 

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I'd be looking at a 120v air conditioner disconnect so you can easily hardwire while still providing the ability to disconnect.
 
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pancho400cid

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Holy scope creep!

Well.... I realize the GFCI I was looking at does not really have on/off function beyond "TEST/RESET". I'm not sure it's "outdoor" rated either.

So... no issue using a GFCI breaker downstream of the regular breaker?

Can you mount a breaker in the duplex box that's there, or is a different box needed?

Would the GFCI breaker go upstream or downstream from an AC disconnect if added?

Appreciate the input guys!

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One comment - I " hear ya" on the "no GFCI" comments, but the GFCI has never tripped or caused a problem (yet). The plug worked its way out of the receptacle.

A GFCI breaker will go in the panel.
Oh... right. 🤕

Maybe you need to hire someone
Maybe....

The panel is a GE PowerMark Gold - maybe 10 years old. The pump is on a dedicated 20 Amp non-GFCI breaker. I assume GFCI breakers are available but haven't checked yet.

So if the breaker gets swapped to GFCI, I could add either a hard-wired switch or disconnect, or just put a twist-loc receptacle and plug out by the motor - right?
 

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One comment - I " hear ya" on the "no GFCI" comments, but the GFCI has never tripped or caused a problem (yet). The plug worked its way out of the receptacle.


Oh... right. 🤕


Maybe....

The panel is a GE PowerMark Gold - maybe 10 years old. The pump is on a dedicated 20 Amp non-GFCI breaker. I assume GFCI breakers are available but haven't checked yet.

So if the breaker gets swapped to GFCI, I could add either a hard-wired switch or disconnect, or just put a twist-loc receptacle and plug out by the motor - right?
GFCI breakers are available, but there is no way I would install a GFCI of any kind on my own pump if I had one. I went with a coco filter for my septic just to avoid having a pump at all. If having a pump was the only option, the GFCI would have been gone before the inspector was 10 minutes down the road.
 
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