xtremek
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I'm curious what the first thing you're going to print is. I've got one in the shop that I'm dying to use, but too many urgent things are crowding it out.
Above 1200 Sq/FT Harley Jim's place
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harley jim
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Kay, I was going to pic your brain on a design program. I learned Draftsight from Dassault systems but they have discontinued it so I have to find a new one.
Riv, I'm trying to get them done, I think someone is sneaking items on my list when I'm not looking. Had a great holiday, I hope you did also.
Im loving those logs you are cutting, some of them are beautiful!
Kirk, I'm not sure what I'm going to start with but after I get the hang of it I know I want to print a blower and zoomie headers for my Gasser pedal car!
Riv, I'm trying to get them done, I think someone is sneaking items on my list when I'm not looking. Had a great holiday, I hope you did also.
Im loving those logs you are cutting, some of them are beautiful!
Kirk, I'm not sure what I'm going to start with but after I get the hang of it I know I want to print a blower and zoomie headers for my Gasser pedal car!
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harley jim
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we used the porch again yesterday for supper, it started snowing, with 15 windows and the door it was kind of cool to see all of the view, now all of the work seems worth it.I'm going to start on the steps today.
kaymccampbell
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I use FreeCAD on Ubuntu. It works well enough. It's about as intuitive as any other CAD software. There's a LOT of web support for it out there. I've never not been able to get a tip for some sticking point. My only problem with any software or activity is that I do a lot of varied stuff, so I don't get the familiarity of grinding it every day forever.
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harley jim
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That's my problem, I started learning a new program when I lost Draftsite, but the laser uses a program, the plas, has a different one, the printer will require 3-D. It would be nice to be proficient with one program. Thanks for that info.
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harley jim
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I got started on the steps today, I just couldn't get motivated so I cut a board and sat in the rocker and watched the board lay on the floor. One at a time I finally got to this point.
There was a lot of chiseling of concrete and I had to cut some steel out of the way also.
Maybe tomorrow, I got the call from the slaughter house this afternoon, I go pick up my cow tomorrow!
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harley jim
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Thanks Tony, this one should be easy to pick up, it's in little pieces now!
I feel gypped somehow I never tried to tip a cow!
I feel gypped somehow I never tried to tip a cow!
xtremek
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Barbeque at Jim and Pat's for New Years Day. If you come, you have to bring a hammer, saw, or a ladder, a salad or desert, and enough beverages for 3 people.
Boostingaz
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I'd be there for that! I'll bring a sledge and a box of donuts (you don't want me baking).
A ladder, we are building steps on the ground, you must be like my painters old helper......height challenged haha. We always used to ask him if he brought his extension ladder so he can start working on the baseboards.
kaymccampbell
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When I bought my cow, the old Polish butcher wanted to know if I wanted to watch. They had a theatre-like waiting room with a row of picture windows overlooking the abattoir and butchery. It was an amazing process for a girl who had only ever butchered chickens.
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harley jim
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I'll be here cooking
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harley jim
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Kay it is a different experience if you have never been there before, I grew up doing this and never thought anything about it, imagine my surprise when I went to school on Monday morning and someone asked what I had done over the weekend and I told them, talk about culture shock, I think half my friends fainted!
This one was kinda open air, we backed the stock trailer back to the gantry, he waited until the cow was positioned correctly and popped it, hooked a shackle to it's back leg and up the gantry it went. This guy is up in greasy creek on top of a mountain in the Cherokee national forest. That's all he, his wife and son do for a living. He has two coolers next to the butcher shop, one for domestic animals and one for wild game.
This one was kinda open air, we backed the stock trailer back to the gantry, he waited until the cow was positioned correctly and popped it, hooked a shackle to it's back leg and up the gantry it went. This guy is up in greasy creek on top of a mountain in the Cherokee national forest. That's all he, his wife and son do for a living. He has two coolers next to the butcher shop, one for domestic animals and one for wild game.
xtremek
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It's fun to watch someone who is good, butcher an animal. Their hands move so fast. An old neighbor was a professional butcher for Farmer Jack grocery stores. Did a steer for us once, in our pasture.
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harley jim
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It is, it's almost mesmerizing watching them turn and twist in an effortless manner, My Aunt and cousin were life long butchers for Kroger, I always wanted to do that.
Bob Heine
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Jim, sadly, I wasn't present at Tuffy's event but my grandfather worked in the meat processing industry his whole working life. Grandpa taught failed gold miners how to care for and butcher livestock in northern Alberta and the Yukon in the early 20th Century and owned a Wisconsin butcher shop in the Depression. He retired from a position at Stahl-Meyer in the late '50s. Watching him do the carving at holiday dinners was an amazing experience for me. I was the holder of the chicken when he slit their throat over the blood barrel (no headless chickens running around for him).
Grandpa was a frugal guy. He'd buy a new knife, like this Russell Cutlery & Supply one and sharpen it every day until the blade was gone and then put it in his fishing tackle box for filleting fish.
Grandpa was a frugal guy. He'd buy a new knife, like this Russell Cutlery & Supply one and sharpen it every day until the blade was gone and then put it in his fishing tackle box for filleting fish.
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harley jim
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Bob that's very cool, I dont know why I find it so fascinating but I do,
An inverted plastic traffic cone with about four inches cut off of the small end works great to drop a chicken into then they cant move while you do the deed, I dont like all of that flopping around either.
I picked up my beef today, the Hereford weighed 643 lbs and we got 340 lbs back, since the cow was given to us it came to 91 cents per pound. I am so glad that I have the neighbors I have.
Kay this is the gantry he uses to lift them out of the trailer.
I talked to him for a bit and was asking him about bones and tallow, he said he would give me all I wanted for free. I can see some bone broth in my future, pat has a cast iron kettle so this summer I may render some tallow, it's really good to season cast iron and Blackstone griddles.
Maybe tomorrow I can get back to my steps!
An inverted plastic traffic cone with about four inches cut off of the small end works great to drop a chicken into then they cant move while you do the deed, I dont like all of that flopping around either.
I picked up my beef today, the Hereford weighed 643 lbs and we got 340 lbs back, since the cow was given to us it came to 91 cents per pound. I am so glad that I have the neighbors I have.
Kay this is the gantry he uses to lift them out of the trailer.
I talked to him for a bit and was asking him about bones and tallow, he said he would give me all I wanted for free. I can see some bone broth in my future, pat has a cast iron kettle so this summer I may render some tallow, it's really good to season cast iron and Blackstone griddles.
Maybe tomorrow I can get back to my steps!
kaymccampbell
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That is definitely outdoors. The butcher that did my cow had a gantry crane. The farmer backed the trailer into the bay. The daughter did something with a Hilti gun like tool and the cow dropped. She hooked it to the chain on the crane, lifted it, and walked it out of the dock area, through elephant doors, into the refrigerated butchery. All under power. Everything they did was done with power. It was very interesting.
Boostingaz
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We take the bones and my wife makes broth. It is very good for any digestive issues and just a cleanse in general. We will occasionally do a broth cleanse and I will drink nothing but hot broth for a few days. Really resets the gut.
Mmmmmm meat.
Mmmmmm meat.
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harley jim
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Got a little more done today, I mixed and poured sand mix in the holes on either side of the old steps, after that set I started making the risers, they are a real pita! The floor slopes in two directions and the steps lean heavy to the left and tilt forward a bit. I attached 2x4s to the floor then trimmed a curve into the 2x6 then picked a spot and struck a straight line. Maybe it will work, lol. It looks really piecemeal but it's all glued and screwed into one piece. Josh called about 6:00 and asked us over for supper, we had the bear that Pat and Hayley canned earlier this year, it was fantastic, he roasted it in gravy and served it over rice. I will have that again.
I'm going to try to get the wood on the steps finished tomorrow!
drivesitfar
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That’s a great solution to fix/repair an unsafe and neglected access.
Bob Heine
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Jim, my job as amateur Monday Morning Quarterback forces a stupid suggestion. Because the main part of the room is off to the right in you picture, I would be tempted to come at the stairs from the side. Probably takes up too much room but I was thinking of something like this:
Jim, I like the way you have it setup now, you walk straight out of the house and down the steps and the same way when entering the house, just a straight shot up, there's no turning a corner to go up or down the steps.Jim, my job as amateur Monday Morning Quarterback forces a stupid suggestion. Because the main part of the room is off to the right in you picture, I would be tempted to come at the stairs from the side. Probably takes up too much room but I was thinking of something like this:
Are you going to put a door on the empty space to the left? it would make a great cubby space to store ****! um I mean stuff.
Michigan Mike
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I don't think I would put a door there I would make a panel face and attache it to a rolling bin.
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harley jim
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Thanks, Drives
Bob, we talked about doing that very thing at first, then scope creep set in!
Pat asked if we might put some lower cabinets on the wall, so we decided on 10' of cabinets, that will basically run from window to window, then she wanted to know if we could possibly put a broom closet between the window and the steps, she dose need the storage space, and she never asks for anything so that changed the corner step!
Tony and Mike,
That will be a storage hole,
The obstacle that's in the way here is the ptack, if I can make a rolling cart that will clear the ptack that's the plan. It may not happen right now as I'm running short on time, I'm having my knee reworked on the 20th and I have to get a couple of things wrapped up before then.
I really value the input people have for my projects, I was a big advocate of brainstorming when I worked at the fab shop and it paid off regularly so thank you.
I had a bunch of running to do today that I didnt know I had to do so not a lot of progress. I did get some of the skin on the frame. It got dark and I think I have some rips that may finish the top course down in the car port so tomorrow is another day!
Bob, we talked about doing that very thing at first, then scope creep set in!
Pat asked if we might put some lower cabinets on the wall, so we decided on 10' of cabinets, that will basically run from window to window, then she wanted to know if we could possibly put a broom closet between the window and the steps, she dose need the storage space, and she never asks for anything so that changed the corner step!
Tony and Mike,
That will be a storage hole,
The obstacle that's in the way here is the ptack, if I can make a rolling cart that will clear the ptack that's the plan. It may not happen right now as I'm running short on time, I'm having my knee reworked on the 20th and I have to get a couple of things wrapped up before then.
I really value the input people have for my projects, I was a big advocate of brainstorming when I worked at the fab shop and it paid off regularly so thank you.
I had a bunch of running to do today that I didnt know I had to do so not a lot of progress. I did get some of the skin on the frame. It got dark and I think I have some rips that may finish the top course down in the car port so tomorrow is another day!
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kaymccampbell
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If you want a drawer solution for the storage hole, I'd hold the door on with 4 magnets, then build a low cart that would clear the bottom of the PTAC. That way you'd get the full depth of the cave.
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harley jim
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HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE
Pat and I are cleaning greens,
I made a cheese cake, and a pitcher of real long island iced tea, the rest of the meal has been prepped and is just waiting for tomorrow.
Its going to be a good year.
I hope the best for all of you!
Pat and I are cleaning greens,
I made a cheese cake, and a pitcher of real long island iced tea, the rest of the meal has been prepped and is just waiting for tomorrow.
Its going to be a good year.
I hope the best for all of you!
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harley jim
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Thanks Tony, Happy new year to you buddy
sublime68charger
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Happy New Year HJ and hope you get them steps done next year!@
xtremek
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Merry New Year.
RoninB4
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Happy New Year neighbor.
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harley jim
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You too neighbor!
Michael B.
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Happy New Year Jim and Pat!
Kevkx125
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Thanks for stopping by Jim, Hope you and pat have a great new year!!!
racer-john
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A very HAPPY NEWYEAR to you and all.HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE
Pat and I are cleaning greens,
I made a cheese cake, and a pitcher of real long island iced tea, the rest of the meal has been prepped and is just waiting for tomorrow.
Its going to be a good year.
I hope the best for all of you!
drivesitfar
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You sure know how to cook (and post) sone tasty stuff. I love good food and especially with a ton of oil and butter and salt but desserts might be my favorite part of the meal. That cheesecake looks great and wondering how many you made to get it to look like that one and was it tasty?
Here’s to another good year above dirt.
Here’s to another good year above dirt.
Jayman17
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All the best you in the New Year Jim!
Jay
Jay
Happy New Year to you & Pat!
On the topic of software to use with the printer and laser, unfortunately there is no "1 program to rule them all"....yet
First you'll need a CAD software to help design the components you're wanting to build. Lots of options out there, but the most well documented and popular one that has a free(and legal) hobbyist(non-commercial) license is Fusion360. At this point I'd probably suggest at least considering that one for the designing side of things, but other options exist. The biggest risk I see at this point with it is the "conversion" or "export" tool to convert to the file type needed for 3d printing (.stl file) is a web only function(not native on the computer) which means if they decide to "monetize" and try and get revenue from some of these hobbyists they could charge to enable that functionality.
Now if that happens there will be a huge outcry from the maker community(that will likely fall on deaf ears) and others will come up with software to convert the native Fusio360 types to .stl but could be an issue. Also if you do learn Fusion360, the process to switch to another design software will be simpler as they generally all work comparably, just have to learn what the buttons look like and any sequence differences another package may have
Once you get the items designed, you'll have to take them to a different software to prepare them for either the printer or the laser
Printing-A "slicer" is required to convert the .stl file into the "layers" that the printer puts down. These are all free and pretty straight forward, (2) most popular ones seem to be Cura and Prusa Slicer and both work with Ender machines. There are other options out there as well and most of the code for the foundations of the slicer programs is open source so making variations of it isn't too complicated
Laser-Couple options here as well, the ones I'm somewhat familiar with are Lightburn and LaserGRBL, I've only used Lightburn. A good laser software can take images, vector drawings, 2D drawings from your CAD software and then allow you to manipulate them and set different laser settings(speed, power etc) for each of the various lines to give you what you're wanting be it's an area etched or a light cut thru. This software can be a bit more dependent on the manufacturer and the controls used on the machine, so consult the mfg documentation etc to verify what works. Lightburn had a free 30 day trial when I did it and it's pretty reasonably priced as well(less than $100 to buy with 1 year of support). For designing of more complicated/artistic items a lot of people will use a 2D drawing program like CorelDraw, Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape to design the image/file then import to their laser program to assign the various layers/settings etc.
On the topic of software to use with the printer and laser, unfortunately there is no "1 program to rule them all"....yet
First you'll need a CAD software to help design the components you're wanting to build. Lots of options out there, but the most well documented and popular one that has a free(and legal) hobbyist(non-commercial) license is Fusion360. At this point I'd probably suggest at least considering that one for the designing side of things, but other options exist. The biggest risk I see at this point with it is the "conversion" or "export" tool to convert to the file type needed for 3d printing (.stl file) is a web only function(not native on the computer) which means if they decide to "monetize" and try and get revenue from some of these hobbyists they could charge to enable that functionality.
Now if that happens there will be a huge outcry from the maker community(that will likely fall on deaf ears) and others will come up with software to convert the native Fusio360 types to .stl but could be an issue. Also if you do learn Fusion360, the process to switch to another design software will be simpler as they generally all work comparably, just have to learn what the buttons look like and any sequence differences another package may have
Once you get the items designed, you'll have to take them to a different software to prepare them for either the printer or the laser
Printing-A "slicer" is required to convert the .stl file into the "layers" that the printer puts down. These are all free and pretty straight forward, (2) most popular ones seem to be Cura and Prusa Slicer and both work with Ender machines. There are other options out there as well and most of the code for the foundations of the slicer programs is open source so making variations of it isn't too complicated
Laser-Couple options here as well, the ones I'm somewhat familiar with are Lightburn and LaserGRBL, I've only used Lightburn. A good laser software can take images, vector drawings, 2D drawings from your CAD software and then allow you to manipulate them and set different laser settings(speed, power etc) for each of the various lines to give you what you're wanting be it's an area etched or a light cut thru. This software can be a bit more dependent on the manufacturer and the controls used on the machine, so consult the mfg documentation etc to verify what works. Lightburn had a free 30 day trial when I did it and it's pretty reasonably priced as well(less than $100 to buy with 1 year of support). For designing of more complicated/artistic items a lot of people will use a 2D drawing program like CorelDraw, Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape to design the image/file then import to their laser program to assign the various layers/settings etc.