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Having a new shed/workshop built... should I insulate?

mroneeyedboh

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Im having a 10x24 shed building built, it will also have 7' walls. Its going to be more of a workshop type deal. I dont know really what part of the year Id be in it more than the other, but Im wondering if it would be worth it to insulate it? Is there a cheap method that wont break the bank? Something that will still be effective but not costly?
 
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JimbosGarage

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I don't know what part of the country you are in but insulation is mostly inexpensive, I would do it if you can. It is worth it. You should be able to get what you need at the home depot or lowes.
 
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mroneeyedboh

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The thing is, its all adding up quickly... I know I know. Im going to have to do electrical, thats around 4-500 Id assume. Plus the gravel pad Im about to do for 650$. Then the insulation. Plus the board to cover the insulation.

I believe the rood is rafters, what kind of setup is needed for that?
 

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If you are going to work in the shed it makes sense. Keep it mind that insulation can keep heat in as well as keeping it out. Make some provision to vent the shed.
 
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mroneeyedboh

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There are gable vents for sure and soffit vents as far as I know. I live in MD. The shed will be shaded for about half of the day. When it gets delivered, I guess I'll post up hard specs etc.
 

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You'll know more once the shed has arrived, since from your description you are likely buying a pre-fab building. Not too sure what you mean by gravel pad, so I presume you will not be pouring a concrete slab for the shed to sit on, but that could be a source of unwanted moisture. Is this to be a workshop, or for storage of lawn equipment?
 

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Is there any reason you have to do it right away? If you find yourself saying "I need to get out in the shop and catch up on my projects but it is just to hot/cold out there" you have your answer.
 

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Is there any reason you have to do it right away? If you find yourself saying "I need to get out in the shop and catch up on my projects but it is just to hot/cold out there" you have your answer.

This!

Since you mentioned that the costs are adding up, why not wait to decide if you want/need any insulation until you have the shed on site and you are using it for awhile.

I think you are doing things in the right order, and getting the electric run to it, and all the lights, outlets and switches in place is something that can come before you insulate it.

You may find out that in certain types of weather (really hot and really cold for example) you won't want to be working out there whether you had insulation in it or not.

In the colder months, whether you insulate it or not you will need some form of heater to take the chill out. Again, you may find out that a small heater setup in there is good enough to take the chill out so you will feel comfortable and you may not need insulation.

Get the shed first and wait and see if you want/need the insulation. You may find that one day in the future, after you are in the shed and using it that you decide you want to insulate it because you're out there all the time and insulating it would make you more comfortable.

There is no rush. If you wait on the insulation you may find that your local big box store will have a sale on it, and you can save some bucks, and have another project to do in the shed!

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mroneeyedboh

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Makes sense Jim. Thanks. And many people use gravel pass under sheds w.o issues. Works well as drainage plus my soil drains well to begin with. The shed comes on 4x4s that are PT along with the joists and flooring.

It is a prefab from good old Amsih country.
 

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I agree with the order you're going with for sure, but insulation is not an optional thing for me. It's one of those things you won't regret doing, as long as it's done right.
 
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Makes sense Jim. Thanks. And many people use gravel pass under sheds w.o issues. Works well as drainage plus my soil drains well to begin with. The shed comes on 4x4s that are PT along with the joists and flooring.

It is a prefab from good old Amsih country.

My shed was built in Lancaster PA by the Amish at a place called Pequea. I went to their place to sit down with them and hash out all the details I wanted in the shed. They were very accommodating and in the end I got exactly what I wanted.

In order for the shed not to be labeled "Permanent", and thus cost a hell of a lot more in fees and raising my property taxes, I had to build the foundation for the shed out of pressure treated 6x6's for the outer frame and 3/4 inch crushed stone for the fill on the inside. According to the town zoning laws, it had to be made from this or they would not pass it when it was done in order to keep it as "Non-permanent".

Also, due to zoning laws in the area where I live, which is zoned Protected Conservation land, I could only make the pad for my shed the same size as the square footage of the shed due to restrictions on "Impervious surfaces" versus the total square footage of my yard. My shed is 10x16, so the pad could only be 10x16. If I wanted it any bigger I would have had to remove some of the existing "Impervious surfaces" on my property such as part of my driveway or my deck. And that was NOT going to happen.

Anyway, because my pad is filled with the rock, it drains very nicely, so I think you will be fine with what you are doing.

Here is a picture of my pad when I was done compacting the stone and a picture of the shed I just took today. You can see that the shed sits just about right at the edges of the 6x6's. My shed also has 5 pressure treated 4x4 runners, pressure treated 2x4's on 16 inch centers for the floor joists, and a pressure treated 5/8 inch plywood floor for reference.

My next shed project is to put gutters on it to keep the water from splashing up onto the siding and possibly rotting it out.
 

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What are you planning on doing with the walls? If you are planning on covering them with anything, I would just insulate first.

For the 3 or 400 dollars it will be done and over with as opposed to having to tear apart your workshop to insulate later.. just my 2 cents, but it seems like a big pain to have to go back later and do it.
 

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If you are going to use it as a workshop, then I would suggest insulating it now. Lowes nationally has insulation for 2x4 walls on 16 inch center for less than $10 per roll.

So for between 300-500 you should be able to get it done.

Insulating will let you keep it cool in the summer and warm in the winter with smaller units than if it wasn't insulated. If you don't do it now and decide you need it later, you'll have to unload all the stuff in there and then do the work.
 
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mroneeyedboh

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I believe the roof is a rafter style roof. How would I insulate that?

Also if I build a loft for storage ( weight would be on the tops of the walls ) would that be okay for storage?

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The Best thing we ever did was insulate select parts of our shop we use the pink stuff thensome plastic sheeting stapled that on and then we topped it all off with framed peg boards screw right to the wall

you can have you insulation, wall storage, and a finished look on the cheap.
Thats Also very user friendly and will keep you organized.

I wouldnt worry to much about the roof its seems to be over kill unless you plan on adding heat in the future...
 

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I think ultimately you will be happier if you insulate. If that's not in the budget at the moment, leave the walls open and go at it later. But in the long run I think you'll be glad you did it.
 

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Where do you live? This will really help in deciding if you need insulation. From what I'm reading, you are having a big shed delivered with open walls. You can always add the insulation later, it doesn't have to be done right away. Are you going to put up drywall or plywood for wall covering? Or are you having the shed builder do that? If they are doing it, then get the insulation installed prior to walls.

I would worry more about getting the electricity installed than the insulation. My one shed that I used as a small work place in the past has no insulation, it gets really cold here in Pa in the wintertime. I used my Heater Buddy to heat up my shed when I needed to work out there. On high, it heated my 10x16 shed pretty quickly. You could do something like that and get away with it for a while.

Good luck.
 

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I am in the insulation business, and trust me - go ahead and insulate NOW. It costs twice as much and is a pain in the a$$ to do it later. And most of the time a professional can do install it for the same price as it would cost you to go to HD or Lowes and buy the stuff. Plus u gotta goto the store, load it up, install it; if u figure in all that it costs you MORE than if u had it done. A reputable company will install it for you for about the same as the cost of the insulation alone, but check around and make sure, don't just go with one price. You will be MUCH better off doing it now especially if you are going to cover the walls. After you get it full of your stuff its a nightmare to try and insulate, so do it now. Theres also MBI, the large rolls of insulation if you are building a pole frame type building. And the best money spent EVER is on Radiant Barrier with the bubble in between it, that stuff is miraculous. I don't know how it does what it does, but it keeps the underside of my black metal roof cool to the touch on a hot summer day. Look at eBay for the single or double bubble radiant barrier, dont get just the foil type, u want the bubble type. Its the best insulation I have ever seen in my 20 years of insulating. Good Luck with your shop.
 

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... I had to build the foundation for the shed out of pressure treated 6x6's for the outer frame and 3/4 inch crushed stone for the fill on the inside.
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That is the best looking non-concrete foundation I have ever seen !

If you are paranoid about critters digging underneath you can peel back the sod around the perimeter and install galvanized wire fencing (heavier than chicken wire) and the roll back the sod.

Also, if you don't want to do gutters, make a planting bed with some small shrubs on the sides and gravel as "mulch" ! :lol:
 

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Thanks man! I like that gravel pad idea...

Before you start laying down that gravel pad, dig up all the sod and then add back sand until it is level with the top of the grass (about 3-4" above the bare sod). Compact the sand to that level. Lay the 6x6 on top of the sand and start filling with gravel.

I am not sure how much it will really help, but a heavy plastic vapor barrier under the sand is a good idea.
 

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Which Amish place did you get your shed from? How are you liking it so far?

Also, what made you choose 10x24 over 12x20? I have the same 240 sqft limitation.
 
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