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AJHD

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Huh. Considering HD doesn't sell a decent screwdriver at all... not shocked I skipped that section.

HD sells a lot of Dewalt tools... power tools, bits, pliers, screwdrivers, tape measures, storage and organization, etc...
 

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There aren't even 10 different Phillips sizes. :)

ISO 8764-1 only lists sizes PH0 to PH4 though PH00 also exists.
Well, if adding stubby grips 10 could be reached.
 

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HD sells a lot of Dewalt tools... power tools, bits, pliers, screwdrivers, tape measures, storage and organization, etc...

Oh, I believe it. I don't go to Home Depot much, except when I order Milwaukee power tools online for pickup at the locker or counter. More of a Lowes or Ace kind of person. I've expected all the major brands to have power tool accessories (like bits, etc.), and that most brands, if not all, branch out into things like tape measures. But expanding into hand tools seems like a risky move. Milwaukee, for example, hasn’t done particularly well in that category, aside from a few products.
 

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But expanding into hand tools seems like a risky move. Milwaukee, for example, hasn’t done particularly well in that category, aside from a few products.

I haven't seen any numbers or looked into it their success or failure, but Milwaukee seems all in when it comes to hand tools. They keep releasing more and HD essentially ditched Klein to stock more Milwaukee hand tools.

My complaint with Milwaukee hand tools has always been and continues to be they're mostly overpriced.
 
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My complaint with Milwaukee hand tools has always been and continues to be they're mostly overpriced.

Yup. Inconsistent is a good term too to apply to them.

The wire strippers and USA made pliers seem okay. Screwdrivers okay. The nut drivers somebody decided a hexagon was too basic to copy and decided to mess up a simple tool by trying to have it do square, hex, 12 point and spline, the electrical multimeter turns into a pile of goo, rotosplit is horrible, and like Klein but to a worse degree anything test or electrical is questionable at best.
 

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Do you have a story? This sounds like it'll be good.

I purchased the high-visibility Milwaukee multimeter model (white on black display) and used it a few times, storing it in a climate-controlled space. It was never exposed to chemicals, oils, solvents, etc.

When I returned, likely about a year or a year and a half later, I discovered that the entire rubber grip had turned into a soft, gooey mess. The only thing I’ve encountered that comes close to this was the trim on 8th generation Honda Civics, which, after a decade in the Arizona sun, would maintain its shape until you lightly touched it. That touch would cause it to melt into a sticky goo that was nearly impossible to remove from your fingers.

I'm familiar with plastics degrading (off-gassing, plasticizers leaching out, etc.) in Arizona, but usually this happens after years of exposure in non-climate controlled garages or other spaces. I called Milwaukee about the issue, and it turns out it was a known problem. They offered a replacement, but after looking at reviews, I realized I wasn't the only one experiencing this issue.
 

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Huh. Interesting. COO China I assume?
I thought they were USA but that's been a long time ago so I can't say for sure. I just remember the quality was pretty good. They were at a hardware store. They carried really nice Enderes screwdrivers too.
 
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I purchased the high-visibility Milwaukee multimeter model (white on black display) and used it a few times, storing it in a climate-controlled space. It was never exposed to chemicals, oils, solvents, etc.

When I returned, likely about a year or a year and a half later, I discovered that the entire rubber grip had turned into a soft, gooey mess. The only thing I’ve encountered that comes close to this was the trim on 8th generation Honda Civics, which, after a decade in the Arizona sun, would maintain its shape until you lightly touched it. That touch would cause it to melt into a sticky goo that was nearly impossible to remove from your fingers.

I'm familiar with plastics degrading (off-gassing, plasticizers leaching out, etc.) in Arizona, but usually this happens after years of exposure in non-climate controlled garages or other spaces. I called Milwaukee about the issue, and it turns out it was a known problem. They offered a replacement, but after looking at reviews, I realized I wasn't the only one experiencing this issue.

I was hoping it would be more of an electrical meltdown. :D

BTW, nice avatar. It's strange, but I love it.
 

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I purchased the high-visibility Milwaukee multimeter model (white on black display) and used it a few times, storing it in a climate-controlled space. It was never exposed to chemicals, oils, solvents, etc.

When I returned, likely about a year or a year and a half later, I discovered that the entire rubber grip had turned into a soft, gooey mess. The only thing I’ve encountered that comes close to this was the trim on 8th generation Honda Civics, which, after a decade in the Arizona sun, would maintain its shape until you lightly touched it. That touch would cause it to melt into a sticky goo that was nearly impossible to remove from your fingers.

I'm familiar with plastics degrading (off-gassing, plasticizers leaching out, etc.) in Arizona, but usually this happens after years of exposure in non-climate controlled garages or other spaces. I called Milwaukee about the issue, and it turns out it was a known problem. They offered a replacement, but after looking at reviews, I realized I wasn't the only one experiencing this issue.
Decomposing plastics and screwdrivers seem to go hand-in-hand. The acetate handles with the white crust, puke smell and eventual crumbling away to the sticky goo deterioration of soft touch plastics. It's not just screwdrivers, it's everywhere and, to me, it's infuriating. Shoes that fall apart. Coated fabrics that delaminate and stink. Automotive dashboards that melt. Plastics on all sorts of things that fall apart over time. I suppose it's just a form of automatic obsolescence but it's incredibly wasteful in so many ways.
 

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Maybe it belonged to someone named Phillip?

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The “Phillips” in the name, may be to distinguish this set from a possibly similar Pozidriv set, made for some other market, or maybe just as a standard naming scheme.
Admittedly, I can’t find a similar Dewalt branded Pozi set, so it may just be a sloppy name.

There aren't even 10 different Phillips sizes. :)

ISO 8764-1 only lists sizes PH0 to PH4 though PH00 also exists.
Well, if adding stubby grips 10 could be reached.
There are 00 and 000 Philips screwdrivers made by a number of brands, even if there is no official standard for the sizes.
 
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