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my heat pump/AC is in direct sun from 12 noon to 5 pm or later
I have been told to build a shield to keep the sun from directly shining on it
has anyone done this ?
could you post pictures of what you designed
my unit is close to my chimney. I thought about hinging a 2x4x12' to it. coming out 2' with another 2x4x12 (both on casters) using 2x4s on 6" centers at a 45* angle
what do you think?
 
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So are you going to tear all this down when heating season comes so you can take advantage of the solar heating at that point?

The best way to get maximum efficiency from any condensing unit is to have unobstructed air flow both around and above the unit. Building any sort of 12 ft high corral around the unit is likely to decrease the efficiency of the unit far more than any small benefit that might be achieved by blocking solar gain.

Heat transfer is not a simple subject. Ask 100 mechanical engineers which courses they breezed thru in college, and its doubtful any of them will list heat transfer as one of the easy ones. Yet there's an unlimited supply of people with no background in the subject who dream up all sorts of so called energy saving tricks, some of which wouldn't recover their cost of implementation in 40 years, and some of which will cost you money from day one.
 

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Metlmuncher, i think you flew off the handle a touch. Just saying.

It’s quite common for a/c units in the southwest to be shielded from the sun by way of awnings, shrubbery, or some type of shade maker.

I quote from online:

At the upper reaches of our atmosphere, the energy density of solar radiation is approximately 1,368 W/m2 (watts per square meter). At the Earth's surface, the energy density is reduced to approximately 1,000 W/m2 for a surface perpendicular to the Sun's rays at sea level on a clear day.

It does make sense to shade the condenser when possible. It most certainly will save money. I do remember reading about guys on hvac forums claiming a noticable increase in efficiency when shade was added to a western facing condenser which caught direct sunlight for some or all of the day.
 
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So are you going to tear all this down when heating season comes so you can take advantage of the solar heating at that point?
if you read what I posted , it would be on hinges and casters to fold up for the fall. besides, I only use the heat pump /ac for summer use at 99%. I use wood and coal for heat
 
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do you install heat pumps/ AC units for a living?
I have been ask by who in a previous ?
by 3 people that I know that has been in business for 10 -40 years
no intension of blocking the air!
what I asked about was recommended by the 3 people that I know that do this for a living. minimum3" from the unit and NO top
 
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metlmunchr
do you install heat pumps/ AC units for a living?

21 years in the business full time plus another 6 years part time during breaks from school. Primarily in commercial and institutional (schools, hospitals, university buildings, etc) rather than residential, but the principles are the same across the board.

I have been ask by who in a previous ?
by 3 people that I know that has been in business for 10 -40 years
no intension of blocking the air!
what I asked about was recommended by the 3 people that I know that do this for a living. minimum3" from the unit and NO top

This isn't an experience related issue. It is 100% related to knowledge of heat transfer principles, and that's not something that gets into the brain via hvac installation/maintenance experience. Experience says I'm standing here at this unit in the sun and its hot as hell, so some good shade would have to make this unit operate a lot more efficiently. Science says that's not the case.

If you google 'shading of air cooled condensers' you'll find this has been studied multiple times with the results always the same. Not worthwhile. Ambient air temperature, and not sun exposure, is the primary influence on efficiency. While the air in a shaded area may be cooler, the large quantity of air handled by the condenser fan quickly evacuates the cooler air which is then replaced by air from other non-shaded areas.

Most studies put the results in a range of 1% to 3%, but the most extensive work was done by a scientist with United Technologies, the owner of Carrier Corp, and another scientist from Kuwait. Their conclusion is that the actual gain is a max of 1%, and in most cases even less than that. If you're spending $100/month for cooling, a 1% saving might pay for one of your 2x4x12's in an entire summer.

These are studies done by groups actually looking for things that can be done to save energy, and not like many of the oil company funded "studies" that have the sole purpose of promoting petroleum products over alternative energy sources. If shading was in fact useful, then Carrier and all the other manufacturers would promote it since it would allow the unit to run under less load with the long term result being less in-warranty compressor failures.

Some of the myths about the benefits of shading come from statements by some government agency about 20 years ago where they made some wild guess that shading would reduce energy use by 10%, with no real data to back up the claim. Another source of misinformation was "This Old House" where someone on that show claimed that shading would reduce energy use by 50%. Once again, just a wild guess, and sorta irresponsible considering its a PBS show.

You can find all sorts of wild claims of savings due to shading on the internet. Some of these are "confirmation bias", which is a situation where a person builds some sort of shade for their unit and then goes on a continuous energy saving kick where the drapes are kept closed, no unnecessary lights are left on, the temperature setpoint is raised by a couple degrees, and so forth, and then all savings are attributed to the shading.

Others are just classic internet wackadoodles whose claims are so outlandish as to be immediately obvious. There's one guy from TX who posts replies to anything he can find that allows public replies. He claims he cools a 1700 sq ft house for $12 to $15 per month with an electric rate of 11 cents per kW-hr via unit shading and gravity attic ventilation. Unfortunately, he has plenty of company in the form of screwballs looking for some sort of internet fame.

If you want to save some real money, look for and correct any leaks in your ductwork. On the outdoor unit, you can save some money by giving the unit a thorough washdown yearly with a cleaner like Mean Green, Simple Green, or a similar solution, and water. A dirty condenser coil does affect efficiency. Avoid the use of acidic purpose made coil cleaning solutions as they're far too strong for any sort of regular use.
 
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I wouldn't spend the effort. The equipment is air cooled. Shading it will do absolutely nothing unless you manage to reduce the ambient air temperature of your entire yard.

Tommy
 
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I would say it depends on the design of the unit. If it's a totally encased condenser with louvers to let air flow then technically it's already in the shade. If it's got a bunch of condenser coil exposed to the sun then maybe if you keep the radiant heat off the coil you could improve efficiency on a hot day.
 

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If all this is true. Why wouldn't you just move the heat pump to a different side of the house?

I live in Florida and have a house facing the same way no issues.
 

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It's seems logical 100 degree day sun beating down on the HP unit shading it would help. It's seems. I'm with Metlmunchr here, no real data to show it helps. The unit needs air flow, and you can't put a roof over it as that causes the heat to dump back down on the unit if it exhausts up. Here is another explaination on the subject. https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/will-shading-your-air-conditioner-save-you-money
 

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My units sit in direct 110º sun from 12-6 during the summer. Never lost efficiency. AZ could be the best heat torture test of any make. So far, we Phoenicians live in climate controlled comfort with no issues. I would not worry about it in your neck of the woods. I should also add that alot of homes here have their heat pumps mounted on the roof. Full on wrath of the summer's blazing sun.
 
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