Doom_Saloon
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Hello all. I'm new to group and looking for suggestions for heating my garage saloon.
Concrete block walls with poured cement floor. Area rugs on floor. Located Mid Hudson Valley, NY.
Total space is 34'x21' with 8 1/2' ceilings (714 sq ft), but the Saloon proper only takes up half the space (17'x21' @357 sq ft).. so I'm really just needing to heat up that space. There's a wall dividing half the 21' width, and I could easily hang a large tapestry to curtain off the rest.
Also, when I say heat, I mean warm up to tolerable in winter. I expect to wear sweatshirt and cap.
There's a big ol woodstove out there that cranks up, but it takes a few hours to really get it comfortable (still need sweatshirt in winter) and I've got some medical issues/ injuries that make splitting/ stacking wood difficult. For gatherings, the wood stove is in play, as friends can help out.
So, I'm looking for a additional, though primary, heat source for daily, quick use when I just want to go out there, hang and listen to an album or tinker...
* I can definitely turn on, let warm up 15 minutes or so...
With the woodstove going and a heater, the Saloon would be downright cozy! The heater would be diagonal across room from woodstove.
Its already got 240V ( double pole 40w) and a Leviton 30A 125/250V welding outlet. Seems like there's room in the box to reconfigure for a double pole 60A breaker if needed? ( If I needed a 10k watt unit, but without insulation, I'd be paying more for the heater and just ******* away more heat?)
So looking at the online calculators, recommendation for half the garage (357 sq ft):
16,000 BTUs and 4, 700 watt electric heater In "poorly insulated" space.
As for easiest hardwired, ceiling or wall mount options with the existing 40A breaker, I'm looking specifically at these:
Tempware 5000w, 30A; 17k BTU
$109
Comfort Zone - same basic specs $82 deal
because there's no insulation,I could go up to a 7500w unit, as price isn't too much more; and seems the 40A breaker still good.
tempware 7500w @ $188
comfort zone 7500w @ $183
or...
plug in portable that I could direct to specific area and wont lose as much heat to ceiling as fast as the ceiling/ wall mount unit:
Dura Heat 5000w, 16,400 BTW
$140.
*only has 6' cord, and based on where box is (opposite furthest corner of garage, opposite saloon) not really optimal, unless the outlet could be moved a little further down the wall toward saloon area? Or could a longer cord be added by my electrician?
*Edit: just found the Heat Wagon P600 portable unit.
20,500BTU, 6000 watt with a 10' cord. Pricey at $663, but looks good? Anyone familiar with this unit? Or any of the above units?
The ceilings are bare plywood, so I was thinking, downline, if money allows, the Smart shield rolls of insulation could be somewhat effective (and relatively inexpensive).
Studding, insulating, sheetrocking the walls aren't really an option financially. Way too big of a project with many other home projects still to tackle.
There's an attic up top, slanted roof 5' at peak...also uninsulated.
Another problem... there's stairs to the attic...a big open area where all the heat is going to go...I could hook up a tarp to somehat cover
I know a bit long-winded post, but wanted to give full info.
and i know insulation would be best, most effective fix, but no can do...
So....best quick, relatively easy and inexpensive heater to get my space warm enough to hang ...?
I appreciate any and all feedback. TIA
*btw, that's my dad in pic after we put up the divider wall, and my cuz who helped hang the metal
Last pic: red mark is possible spot for ceiling mount; orange ideal spot for portable unit.
Concrete block walls with poured cement floor. Area rugs on floor. Located Mid Hudson Valley, NY.
Total space is 34'x21' with 8 1/2' ceilings (714 sq ft), but the Saloon proper only takes up half the space (17'x21' @357 sq ft).. so I'm really just needing to heat up that space. There's a wall dividing half the 21' width, and I could easily hang a large tapestry to curtain off the rest.
Also, when I say heat, I mean warm up to tolerable in winter. I expect to wear sweatshirt and cap.
There's a big ol woodstove out there that cranks up, but it takes a few hours to really get it comfortable (still need sweatshirt in winter) and I've got some medical issues/ injuries that make splitting/ stacking wood difficult. For gatherings, the wood stove is in play, as friends can help out.
So, I'm looking for a additional, though primary, heat source for daily, quick use when I just want to go out there, hang and listen to an album or tinker...
* I can definitely turn on, let warm up 15 minutes or so...
With the woodstove going and a heater, the Saloon would be downright cozy! The heater would be diagonal across room from woodstove.
Its already got 240V ( double pole 40w) and a Leviton 30A 125/250V welding outlet. Seems like there's room in the box to reconfigure for a double pole 60A breaker if needed? ( If I needed a 10k watt unit, but without insulation, I'd be paying more for the heater and just ******* away more heat?)
So looking at the online calculators, recommendation for half the garage (357 sq ft):
16,000 BTUs and 4, 700 watt electric heater In "poorly insulated" space.
As for easiest hardwired, ceiling or wall mount options with the existing 40A breaker, I'm looking specifically at these:
Tempware 5000w, 30A; 17k BTU
$109
Comfort Zone - same basic specs $82 deal
because there's no insulation,I could go up to a 7500w unit, as price isn't too much more; and seems the 40A breaker still good.
tempware 7500w @ $188
comfort zone 7500w @ $183
or...
plug in portable that I could direct to specific area and wont lose as much heat to ceiling as fast as the ceiling/ wall mount unit:
Dura Heat 5000w, 16,400 BTW
$140.
*only has 6' cord, and based on where box is (opposite furthest corner of garage, opposite saloon) not really optimal, unless the outlet could be moved a little further down the wall toward saloon area? Or could a longer cord be added by my electrician?
*Edit: just found the Heat Wagon P600 portable unit.
20,500BTU, 6000 watt with a 10' cord. Pricey at $663, but looks good? Anyone familiar with this unit? Or any of the above units?
The ceilings are bare plywood, so I was thinking, downline, if money allows, the Smart shield rolls of insulation could be somewhat effective (and relatively inexpensive).
Studding, insulating, sheetrocking the walls aren't really an option financially. Way too big of a project with many other home projects still to tackle.
There's an attic up top, slanted roof 5' at peak...also uninsulated.
Another problem... there's stairs to the attic...a big open area where all the heat is going to go...I could hook up a tarp to somehat cover
I know a bit long-winded post, but wanted to give full info.
and i know insulation would be best, most effective fix, but no can do...
So....best quick, relatively easy and inexpensive heater to get my space warm enough to hang ...?
I appreciate any and all feedback. TIA
*btw, that's my dad in pic after we put up the divider wall, and my cuz who helped hang the metal
Last pic: red mark is possible spot for ceiling mount; orange ideal spot for portable unit.
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