Alaska4Ever
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From the title you can see I will need heat in the shop ALL winter. Plans are to keep in running until spring (Mid May) then shut down for the summer.
Specs:
Interior Alaska ( can reach -30 to -40 but average is probably 0)
45 x 50 x 14 Shop
300K outdoor wood/coal boiler with 1 1/4 Thermopex for the supply
60-80K wood/coal stove ( only used when I am in the shop)
3x 80K hydronic heaters w/ fans
R 40 in walls
R 60 in ceilings
R20 in back wall (connects to unheated space in the barn... this is actually a 50x88)
Heat loss shows 120K -150K needed depending on which calculator
Very Remote so little to no help from plumber/HVAC without considerable expense
Plans are to
1)Heat the shop this year for a place to retreat during the winter and actually be able to do things outside.
2)Put a well in the shop for running water both hot and cold
3) Pipe this to my house (80 feet)for supplemental heat (key word is supplemental so oil furnace does not run as much during the winter when the fire dies down. (NEXT YEAR I AM OUT OF TIME)
4) Plumb shop on one zone so when calls for heat all heaters work
5) Plumb house on second zone to run through some baseboard heaters I have
6) use 1 1/4 throughout the barn and then go to 1 inch when i leave to go to the house
7) Minimize pipes as much as possible-- I still have electrical conduit to install... water supply must be run near the ceiling to get over the garage doors
Question:
1) Is Plans #4 and #5 the best option or should I plan on zoning all the heaters
2) Best way to plumb this-- is it a manifold or just run the boiler loop through the heaters continuously and thermostat the fans
3) Can I mix this concept and loop through heater #1 just to save on total run of pipe thus assisting with total head on the pump
4) I assume if manifold is the option this will require another pump other than the boiler circulation pump
5) Also assume that when house gets hooked up this will require a pump for just the house
6) are the placement of heaters correct
Just need some help on this one. I can do the work but design of plumbing not my strong suit
Thanks -- attached a diagram to help visualize
Specs:
Interior Alaska ( can reach -30 to -40 but average is probably 0)
45 x 50 x 14 Shop
300K outdoor wood/coal boiler with 1 1/4 Thermopex for the supply
60-80K wood/coal stove ( only used when I am in the shop)
3x 80K hydronic heaters w/ fans
R 40 in walls
R 60 in ceilings
R20 in back wall (connects to unheated space in the barn... this is actually a 50x88)
Heat loss shows 120K -150K needed depending on which calculator
Very Remote so little to no help from plumber/HVAC without considerable expense
Plans are to
1)Heat the shop this year for a place to retreat during the winter and actually be able to do things outside.
2)Put a well in the shop for running water both hot and cold
3) Pipe this to my house (80 feet)for supplemental heat (key word is supplemental so oil furnace does not run as much during the winter when the fire dies down. (NEXT YEAR I AM OUT OF TIME)
4) Plumb shop on one zone so when calls for heat all heaters work
5) Plumb house on second zone to run through some baseboard heaters I have
6) use 1 1/4 throughout the barn and then go to 1 inch when i leave to go to the house
7) Minimize pipes as much as possible-- I still have electrical conduit to install... water supply must be run near the ceiling to get over the garage doors
Question:
1) Is Plans #4 and #5 the best option or should I plan on zoning all the heaters
2) Best way to plumb this-- is it a manifold or just run the boiler loop through the heaters continuously and thermostat the fans
3) Can I mix this concept and loop through heater #1 just to save on total run of pipe thus assisting with total head on the pump
4) I assume if manifold is the option this will require another pump other than the boiler circulation pump
5) Also assume that when house gets hooked up this will require a pump for just the house
6) are the placement of heaters correct
Just need some help on this one. I can do the work but design of plumbing not my strong suit
Thanks -- attached a diagram to help visualize
