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Kaelor

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Here some pictures of my floor jack.

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The pin that doesn't want to come out by any means.





 

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When you say the pin doesn't come out? You do mean In? If you can't retract the handle pins from the top, you need to tap on the Inside pin, Not the outer bushing till it clears the frame. It looks like you have been using a sledge, More importantly hitting the wrong area.
 
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Kaelor

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When you say the pin doesn't come out? You do mean In? If you can't retract the handle pins from the top, you need to tap on the Inside pin, Not the outer bushing till it clears the frame. It looks like you have been using a sledge, More importantly hitting the wrong area.

Yes, I mean In. I tried using the top pins but they just bend. I was using a regular hammer, the ones you use for nails, and a small punch. I think the punch was too thin for the pin that's why it was piercing it. I got a little frustrated and used only the hammer that's why the outer ring is smashed, though this did work to free the pin on the right side. Got the right side all the way in but the left just won't move. Today I tried penetrating oil, regular oil, even a c-clamp with no luck, it didn't move one bit.

Any other idea on how to get that pin all the way in?

Also I'd like to know which is the bleed and filler valve for the oil, I don't want to mess it up since here you can't really get parts for this jack.
 

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Yes, I mean In. I tried using the top pins but they just bend. I was using a regular hammer, the ones you use for nails, and a small punch. I think the punch was too thin for the pin that's why it was piercing it. I got a little frustrated and used only the hammer that's why the outer ring is smashed, though this did work to free the pin on the right side. Got the right side all the way in but the left just won't move. Today I tried penetrating oil, regular oil, even a c-clamp with no luck, it didn't move one bit.

Any other idea on how to get that pin all the way in?

Also I'd like to know which is the bleed and filler valve for the oil, I don't want to mess it up since here you can't really get parts for this jack.

A punch just a hair smaller than the pin would be a good start, a small pin won't cut it. I'm not sure what your referencing as a"bleed" valve? Unless your talking about the release, which is vital to bleeding the Jack. The fill Hole is the back of they hydraulic unit below the flip up cover. There are Numerous threads here detailing this jacks, do some searching.
 
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469 runner

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There is no "bleed valve". You asked about purging air from the hydraulics. Open the release valve, the knob on top of the handle , open is counter-clockwise, pump the handle, this should purge air from the system. Use the search function here for Hein Werner WS jack as HiBall says. There is tons of information on this site. That ring around the handle pivot pin is just a bushing, pounding on that all day will accomplish nothing.
 

Kaelor

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There is no "bleed valve". You asked about purging air from the hydraulics. Open the release valve, the knob on top of the handle , open is counter-clockwise, pump the handle, this should purge air from the system. Use the search function here for Hein Werner WS jack as HiBall says. There is tons of information on this site. That ring around the handle pivot pin is just a bushing, pounding on that all day will accomplish nothing.

Yep I know that, it's just a little smashed since I used the whole hammer head at one time without the punch out of frustration.

Ok gonna try purging air that way after filling up with oil. I'm reading this whole thread and some others here, seems like a good place to get some info about the jack.

I read somewhere that there is a bolt you can tighten to stop a small leak, where is that bolt located?

Thanks everyone for the help and info:)
 

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thanks to all for the invaluable information that is very timely for me. I picked up a very nice condition 1 1/2 ton Hein Werner WS this weekend out in the wild. this thread would have prompted me to join GJ if I had not already been a member.
 

KatanaKid

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I started to tare down my 1,1/2 WS today .
What will I do now ?
Since ,,, all the photos are blocked by photobuket
 

6PTsocket

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Here is a little historical insight into the situation I found here:
http://www.jackxchange.com/manufacturers/28.cfm
"Hein Werner a trusted name in Automotive Lifting Equipment is back. Brought back to the marketplace by SFA Company. The Hein Werner line offers quality products made in the USA and North America. The Hein Werner product line is a combination of equipment once manufacured by both Hein Werner and Lincoln/Walker. The new color of the Hein Werner line carries forward the the Lincoln/Walker color of blue and gold."
More info here: http://www.hyjacks.com/H2.HTM

This is the current company that makes the Hein-Warner line and their support info:
http://www.shinnfuamerica.com/(S(xuzl3j3mtrucgxydhnzrbo45))/Products/Product_Categories.aspx?ID=6

Shinn Fu Company of America, Inc.
10939 N. Pomona Avenue
Kansas City, Missouri 64153
United States

Telephone: (816) 891-6390

Fax: (816) 891-6599

Email: [email protected]

Here are exploded view of some of the earlier jacks:
http://www.ohiohydraulic.com/hein-werner drawing page.htm

Here is a source for service parts: http://blackhawkparts.com/store/page9.html
The iconic 2 and 3 ton HW jacks went from "made in USA" to "assembled in USA from domestic and foreign parts" to no statement at all, suggesting that they are now probably made in China. Shin Fu does have a factory here where the bigger HW stuff is "Made in USA" I have an older 2 ton HW that is pre Shin Fu and of course,US made. There will probably always be parts for the 2 and 3 ton as there are so many of them out there. You can get parts or service from the sources the previous poster listed. They were and I hope still are great jscks. I have never hsd a drop of trouble with mine. If you buy a heavy old jack that needs work, you shoulf be prepared to work on it. To have to ship it to a rebuilder can eat up any savings over buying something in working order.

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Kaelor

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Hi everyone, I got my WS working fine just needed to be pumped a lot. Recently used it to lift the engine of my VW beetle and putting it in. Now I want to give it a facelift, some cleaning and repainting will do for now.

Any pointers on taking the years old tar off the jack?? Without using my grinder and wire wheel.

Also I have no clue how to get the back casters off, I can't reach the nut above the wheel with the wrench. It's covered in lots of dust and tar even the ball bearings seem to have some inside that's why I need to clean it and get some new grease on them.
 

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Removing casters is very straightforward. Flip up the rear cover. Two bolts will be exposed. Remove those. The cover hinges on a long rod that serves as the fastener for the back side of the casters. Unscrew the casters on each side.
 

Kaelor

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So they are screwed to the rod then. They seem to be locked tight. Gotta try harder then. So I finally got to remove the wheels from those casters without taking them out, removed the push nut and the pin holding them so I have room to remove the nut and get to the ball bearings. Regular grease will do?
 

6PTsocket

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A Chinese company who bought a previously owned American company and they are now using the previous American company's name AND building them in America?!!? This is too much info for me to absorb right now; I think I need a shot of whiskey. :eek2:
Not the only case. Stanley Black&Decker sold the Delta tool company to Chang Type International of Taiwan. Since the beginning, in 1939, Delta was made in Tenn.
Chang built a new plant in SC and moved Delta there. They are not doing that great.

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KatanaKid

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I found this one on my way back from Disney last week
So now Ol faithfull has a twin for company
I was told they did not know if it worked but it did raise half way.
When home it lifted a car but not to full hight . So I added oil and then it didnt go up at all .
Well it lived in a barn so im going through it . I recentlly re sealded my 45 yo one and it now works like when it was new .
This one has holes in the sides of the rear casters . My thoughts are its a newer model
Can any one identify it from the serial # ?
 

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